Dak isn’t the Problem Jerry Is

IrishAnto

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You all entitled to your own opinion but at the end if the day the players gotta play and the coaches have to coach. I'm not blaming the owner of my job everyday that my coworkers come to work lazy or messing up ALL the time
But it’s the owners job to hire the right workers in the first place and maintain the proper culture.
It all starts at the top!
 

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^ This.

Jerry Jones is not the first and will not be the last owner who exempts himself from proper job evaluation. He made himself general manager. He would have been fired decades ago based on his managing the team IF he were any other person holding the position.

By definition, Jones is a leader of the team. Being the general manager makes him a significant leader of the team. It can be argued that combining the attributes of being a significant leader with his particular personality makes Jones' decisions and actions exceedingly influential over other team leaders such as his head coach.

Win or lose, sports teams adopt the characteristics of its head coach, manager, etc. This can be a good or bad thing depending on the coach's leadership style but that defining quality is diminished or almost nullified in Dallas because of the huge self-serving shadow Jones casts over everyone beneath him.

Bill Parcells was the last head coach that the team remotely embodied as its unquestioned leader. Jones fashioned himself into that capacity in every other instance in the post-Jimmy Johnson era. His form of leadership is not conductive for inspiring a team to be the best it can be game-in and game-out.
Well said.

The other bad part of JJ as GM is his bad habit of over-valuing the talent of the roster. He looks at his players like a fan. He is seemingly incapable of looking at his roster without having a “glass totally full” at all times.

Here are the characteristics of the best GMs:
  • The best GMs look at their roster and think “worst case scenario” to be prepared for problems. Jerry lives in a salesman mindset which is always centered on “best case scenarios”. Partly because he and his family are never held accountable for failure. There is no rush to succeed on the field.
  • The best GMs are not afraid to make bold moves to win a championship. Jerry worries more about not “being relevant” than winning a championship.
  • The best GMs are willing to blow up a roster and rebuild if they think it will help as a process to get to a championship. When was the last time our GM started a “rebuild”?
  • The best GMs have a timeline for success. Most are given 4-5 years to produce playoff results or they are fired in order to find someone else who can lead the team to a championship.
Our “leadership structure” with no accountability at the top for failure is just the Titanic with a new coat of paint each year. Without a change there, it is extremely difficult to win playoff games. We have 27 years of evidence.
 

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Jerry didn't miss a wide open Ferguson on 4th down. Crucial play!
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^ This.

Jerry Jones is not the first and will not be the last owner who exempts himself from proper job evaluation. He made himself general manager. He would have been fired decades ago based on his managing the team IF he were any other person holding the position.

By definition, Jones is a leader of the team. Being the general manager makes him a significant leader of the team. It can be argued that combining the attributes of being a significant leader with his particular personality makes Jones' decisions and actions exceedingly influential over other team leaders such as his head coach.

Win or lose, sports teams adopt the characteristics of its head coach, manager, etc. This can be a good or bad thing depending on the coach's leadership style but that defining quality is diminished or almost nullified in Dallas because of the huge self-serving shadow Jones casts over everyone beneath him.

Bill Parcells was the last head coach that the team remotely embodied as its unquestioned leader. Jones fashioned himself into that capacity in every other instance in the post-Jimmy Johnson era. His form of leadership is not conductive for inspiring a team to be the best it can be game-in and game-out.
 

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Agreed, Bob.

Looking at the long term successful NFL teams many of them had "hands off" owners.

Of course, our Cowboys are a prime example, Clint Murchison hired Landry and Schram and "let them do". And 20 straight years of winning records and 7 championship games resulted. Add to that the Rooney family, 6 Super Bowl wins. Even Robert Kraft, also near 20 straight winning seasons and 6 SB wins.

It's just so hard to run a team, deal with all of the business dealings, dealing with the NFL hierarchy, the city the team is located in, and so forth and also handle the players and their contracts, especially now with a salary cap.

Having an owner who's also a very active general manager, when that owner has an ego the size of Texas, is not a good idea....
 

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Bet...explain just how the comparison on a position against position analysis between Dallas and Philadelphia exactly are...can you? Prove your stuff now.
I was having a serious level headed football discussion with the OP. Just ignore me. I'm not interested in proving anything to you. Just stop reading my posts.

I was very respectful to you....and thanked you for your service....and you ignored that...and just focused on more and more confrontational posts. So just ignore me.
 

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exactly

even after all of our issues and mistakes in execution, we nearly beat the eagles on their turf with little help from the officials. some bad breaks but saw nothing that says the eagles are Better than us just luckier ie 3 fumbles all bounced back to them and the little edge from the zebras only reason they beta MIA as well.....

i don't think this clown realizes we could have kicked 3 field goals and won the game.. just daks toe on the 2 pnt conv was unlucky.. 1inch for schoon etc etc we beat ourselves played better IMHO and lost..
There is a road to each and every playoff, this was a good game...people forget to watch the road that season. What they really do is that there is real dignity to the team's road that very game.

They substitute following their team and supporting them with non-stop insult to other fans at every single imaginable bump in that season's path.

I'm sorry for their lack of depth in insight. The game is about momentum, not bragging insult and blame.

There are adjustments every game and through the season. Follow that season...the past is one's memory. Excuses are on today. This team stands on it's own worth. Not blame on a particular fan's own biases.
 

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Well said.

The other bad part of JJ as GM is his bad habit of over-valuing the talent of the roster. He looks at his players like a fan. He is seemingly incapable of looking at his roster without having a “glass totally full” at all times.

Here are the characteristics of the best GMs:
  • The best GMs look at their roster and think “worst case scenario” to be prepared for problems. Jerry lives in a salesman mindset which is always centered on “best case scenarios”. Partly because he and his family are never held accountable for failure. There is no rush to succeed on the field.
  • The best GMs are not afraid to make bold moves to win a championship. Jerry worries more about not “being relevant” than winning a championship.
  • The best GMs are willing to blow up a roster and rebuild if they think it will help as a process to get to a championship. When was the last time our GM started a “rebuild”?
  • The best GMs have a timeline for success. Most are given 4-5 years to produce playoff results or they are fired in order to find someone else who can lead the team to a championship.
Our “leadership structure” with no accountability at the top for failure is just the Titanic with a new coat of paint each year. Without a change there, it is extremely difficult to win playoff games. We have 27 years of evidence.
Each coaching change nowhere have received a posted evaluation based upon each group's evaluation went. What is arbitrary in your stance is that a realistic standard is not being utilized. A reasonable value comparison to denote success that is NOT tied solely into winning a Lombardi. Across the number 27, arbitrary since tied to a Lombardi alone...there have been many successes.

You standing here and attempting to look this fan in the lie and say the franchise has not achieved quite a few good respectable goals during that period and then want me also to instead blame on that justification non-standard as realistic, then placing a shallow view on the GM, and wish to as an American fan, not be insulted in a purely biased standard as all important? I'll tell you, that won't happen.

That is called ethics. Who are you blaming for Buffalo?
 

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^ This.

Jerry Jones is not the first and will not be the last owner who exempts himself from proper job evaluation. He made himself general manager. He would have been fired decades ago based on his managing the team IF he were any other person holding the position.

By definition, Jones is a leader of the team. Being the general manager makes him a significant leader of the team. It can be argued that combining the attributes of being a significant leader with his particular personality makes Jones' decisions and actions exceedingly influential over other team leaders such as his head coach.

Win or lose, sports teams adopt the characteristics of its head coach, manager, etc. This can be a good or bad thing depending on the coach's leadership style but that defining quality is diminished or almost nullified in Dallas because of the huge self-serving shadow Jones casts over everyone beneath him.

Bill Parcells was the last head coach that the team remotely embodied as its unquestioned leader. Jones fashioned himself into that capacity in every other instance in the post-Jimmy Johnson era. His form of leadership is not conductive for inspiring a team to be the best it can be game-in and game-out.
Don't even approach the blame towards of a lack of loyalty by team players for that same Jerry Jones.

Your job description for a legitimized GM is purely personal. That is what is formulated as policy for an organization.

What is owned here, is one's own standard, not stated, for justification in not respected the, in fact, chosen by the owner.

One's own ownership of failure is personal...no matter how many 'beers' are consumed to rail discontent. You have not established a current picture upon failure beyond a chest pounding medal approach instead of current value. I don't have the need to go back 27 years to discuss current successes of the Dallas Cowboys in the present window of opportunity.

I am fully able to define opportunity in the now and define those very elements without coping out and using descrimination equivalent stereotypes instead.

Name any team bound by a 27 year abstract evaluation about any element of their own programs or even success. Give me any team so bound, except on site.

Give current and fair standards and start a real conversation beyond living in one's own past memories and a forced failure standard.

Here and now are 2 12 win seasons and the Cowboys, this season, are tied for the 3rd best record in the NFC by records. That should improve even, over the next three weeks.:starspin:

I'm sorry, this fan isn't handing out kleenex to wipe away pretentious tears...

I like my Cowboys as well as respect their current achievements. I won't further apologize for just that view.
 

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Dak is part of the roster that Jerry assembled. The fact that he is still the QB of this team shows just how interested Jerry is at winning.
The contract doesn't allow Jerry to have any option but to keep him.

Let's see if Dakota is extended or not and we can probably get a better idea of Jerry's commitment to Rayne.
 

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Don't even approach the blame towards of a lack of loyalty by team players for that same Jerry Jones.

Your job description for a legitimized GM is purely personal. That is what is formulated as policy for an organization.

What is owned here, is one's own standard, not stated, for justification in not respected the, in fact, chosen by the owner.

One's own ownership of failure is personal...no matter how many 'beers' are consumed to rail discontent. You have not established a current picture upon failure beyond a chest pounding medal approach instead of current value. I don't have the need to go back 27 years to discuss current successes of the Dallas Cowboys in the present window of opportunity.

I am fully able to define opportunity in the now and define those very elements without coping out and using descrimination equivalent stereotypes instead.

Name any team bound by a 27 year abstract evaluation about any element of their own programs or even success. Give me any team so bound, except on site.

Give current and fair standards and start a real conversation beyond living in one's own past memories and a forced failure standard.

Here and now are 2 12 win seasons and the Cowboys, this season, are tied for the 3rd best record in the NFC by records. That should improve even, over the next three weeks.:starspin:

I'm sorry, this fan isn't handing out kleenex to wipe away pretentious tears...

I like my Cowboys as well as respect their current achievements. I won't further apologize for just that view.
 

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That seems to be your response instead of a discussion to my directed disagreements on subject for discussion. Has that become a stereotype instead, directed at my not agreeing as to specific causes?
 

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Don't even approach the blame towards of a lack of loyalty by team players for that same Jerry Jones.

Your job description for a legitimized GM is purely personal. That is what is formulated as policy for an organization.

What is owned here, is one's own standard, not stated, for justification in not respected the, in fact, chosen by the owner.

One's own ownership of failure is personal...no matter how many 'beers' are consumed to rail discontent. You have not established a current picture upon failure beyond a chest pounding medal approach instead of current value. I don't have the need to go back 27 years to discuss current successes of the Dallas Cowboys in the present window of opportunity.

I am fully able to define opportunity in the now and define those very elements without coping out and using descrimination equivalent stereotypes instead.

Name any team bound by a 27 year abstract evaluation about any element of their own programs or even success. Give me any team so bound, except on site.

Give current and fair standards and start a real conversation beyond living in one's own past memories and a forced failure standard.

Here and now are 2 12 win seasons and the Cowboys, this season, are tied for the 3rd best record in the NFC by records. That should improve even, over the next three weeks.:starspin:

I'm sorry, this fan isn't handing out kleenex to wipe away pretentious tears...

I like my Cowboys as well as respect their current achievements. I won't further apologize for just that view.
What did CCBoy say right here? It's like 11000110101110110011101010010100110
 

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But it’s the owners job to hire the right workers in the first place and maintain the proper culture.
It all starts at the top!
Are they the right workers when things are good too or just when things are bad!?. Do the Owners get the credit for the good games and positive things or JUST the bad!? Lol that's a joke
 
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