Dak ain't going anywhere

[acr731]

I wouldn’t describe as gone . As deflated or disappointed as I’ve seen him in years because of how hyped the team was.

That was arguably worst playoff loss this era. At least based on the expectations.

Who's fault was that???

 

[Captain-Crash]

It was Dak - he proclaimed that now was the time to go after a super bowl. Like it wasn't important until after he got paid. Says all you need to know about Dak.

I hope both of his new girl friends have that mentality too. "they ain't getting any younger, get that money girls"

 

[kskboys]

I wouldn’t describe as gone . As deflated or disappointed as I’ve seen him in years because of how hyped the team was.

That was arguably worst playoff loss this era. At least based on the expectations.

Why not? Every sign since then supports it.

I mean, yes, it's all speculation, but you gotta ignore a ton of signs to think he's the same.

 

[kskboys]

Who's fault was that???

Problem is, he believed his own hype. Meanwhile, starting in preseason, we were screaming at him that we have no LB's and Osa isn't a starter type, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Jerry knew better.

 

[acr731]

Why not? Every sign since then supports it.

I mean, yes, it's all speculation, but you gotta ignore a ton of signs to think he's the same.

Has Jerry changed enough to make the 1 decision that should have been made 25 years ago? Then no, I don't think he has changed, not near enough.

 

[Diehardblues]

It was Dak - he proclaimed that now was the time to go after a super bowl. Like it wasn't important until after he got paid. Says all you need to know about Dak.

This when I turned on Dak, not that anyone cares.

I’m not really pro or con Dak. My issue resides with our owner and his poor Mgmt .

I was for putting Romo back in 2016. And for drafting or pursuing another QB while he was in franchise tag.

Now , we are not in as good of position to move on. But it depends where you think we are.

Is it time to rebuild or try and continue making a run with this core which is where I believe Jethro is . And what he means by All In.

 

[Captain-Crash]

This when I turned on Dak, not that anyone cares.

I care, and don't blame you.

 

[Diehardblues]

Whose fault was that???

That was his own fault for buying into the hype. And I think he still believes this team can be enough. That the GB loss was a total fluke .

 

[TequilaCowboy]

If you think Dak ain't going nowhere, then neither are the Cowboys. Just a overpaid loser.

 

[Diehardblues]

Why not? Every sign since then supports it.

I mean, yes, it's all speculation, but you gotta ignore a ton of signs to think he's the same.

“ change “ would ultimately require finally (nearing age 82 )stepping down as official GM.

Anything besides that is more playing to public perception. I’d say things appear to be more the same than changed.

But like I said naming Jimmy on Advisory Board( whatever the hell that means which sounds like he’s jerkin us off ) is a hopeful sign. I wouldn’t describe as totally changing .

 

[Captain-Crash]

If you think Dak ain't going nowhere, then neither are the Cowboys. Just a overpaid loser.

come on now. dak just needs the best offensive line in the NFL, the best shutdown defense that has ever been assembled in the NFL, and the brightest coaches ever, a running back that can score every time he gets the ball, and wide receivers that can catch any and all balls throw their way. I think it's possible.

 

[Diehardblues]

If you think Dak ain't going nowhere, then neither are the Cowboys. Just a overpaid loser.

That’s a fair assessment . Which has been the case for almost 30 years now. And most likely for years to come .

 

[Diehardblues]

Has Jerry changed enough to make the 1 decision that should have been made 25 years ago? Then no, I don't think he has changed, not near enough.

And that’s the ultimate bottom line .

Until he acknowledges that at age 82 he no longer provides Cowboys Football as their GM our best opportunity to win. Then it’s status quo .

And I’d argue thus far thru FA it has been status quo. No surprises yet.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

And that’s the ultimate bottom line .

Until he acknowledges that at age 82 he no longer provides Cowboys Football as their GM our best opportunity to win. Then it’s status quo .

And I’d argue thus far thru FA it has been status quo. No surprises yet.

I was going to mention this as well. Jerry is 82. At this point in his life he is not interested in going with a full-blown rebuild. No matter what the opinions are on Dak, he gives the Cowboys the best chance to win right now. The Cowboys are a playoff team with Dak at quarterback; and just having a chance at a postseason run is what matters to Jerry at this point.

I don't want to sound morbid, but making long term plans by starting over at quarterback is not something Jerry is interested in right now. He has a team right now that has a chance. And I think his age is a big reason why this franchise is hesitant to make really big changes.

 

[khiladi]

Of course he is, and CeeDee is no different. Micah is probably the same, but he hasn't admitted it to the media like CeeDee did, not that I heard. Neither one of them is really interested in winning, it all about money.

Dak has a bad game and as soon as he is interviewed he always says the same thing - "I need to get better". Problem is he doesn't really give a damn and has no intention of actually doing it, he only says it to appease the few fans who actually think he means it and believe that he cares about improving his game. He doesn't.

I think he does try and get better. He’s just not that good and when the teams get better and lights get brighter, especially come play-off time, he’s just out of his league.

Beating up bad teams gives him and his fan boys a false sense of confidence.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Still a very possible scenario, but its seems off to me.

I don't see the leverage this gives Jerry by waiting.

• Dak has never given in to Jerry before and still demanded a record contract coming off of a major injury
• Dak was more than willing to play on the franchise tag in the past, he's shown zero indication that he will do anything but bet on himself
• Dak set up his last deal specifically so Jerry didn't have this type of control (No trade, no franchise clause), they've literally been planning for this since 2020.
• It seems idiotic to me that Dak would give Jerry a discount only for him to not spend any money in free agency. Honestly I think a holdout would be more likely than a discount at this point. That protects him from injury and poor performance behind a worse team in 2024

The only reason I can really find to push off a potential deal until August is if the Cowboys want time to explore Dak's off field issues right now. Jerry not participating in free agency to blame Dak for non participation only to pressure Dak into taking less money so they can continue to not sign players is just a total slap in the face to fans.....and that's from both Dak and Jerry's camp.

I actually view it completely differently. Right or wrong I think the Dak era is about to end in Dallas. It seems absolutely ridiculous that Dak would sign anything other than a monster deal with every contractual condition he wants included. He's way too close to the taste of free agency where he would have 10 bidders instantly in 2025. I think it's just as realistic that Dak holds out and demands a trade as it is Dak gives into anything less than a $60M per year extension with a massive signing bonus.

Holding out can result in his losing an accrued season and thus he would not be a free agent next March. Dak Prescott is not going to hold out under any circumstance. Dak gets paid $5 million tomorrow. The balance of his compensation for 2024, $29 million, becomes fully guaranteed on Wednesday. Unless they cut him today he’s the Dallas Cowboys’ quarterback for 2024.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I was going to mention this as well. Jerry is 82. At this point in his life he is not interested in going with a full-blown rebuild. No matter what the opinions are on Dak, he gives the Cowboys the best chance to win right now. The Cowboys are a playoff team with Dak at quarterback; and just having a chance at a postseason run is what matters to Jerry at this point.

I don't want to sound morbid, but making long term plans by starting over at quarterback is not something Jerry is interested in right now. He has a team right now that has a chance. And I think his age is a big reason why this franchise is hesitant to make really big changes.

The sad thing is he'd still have a better chance with a full rebuild than he has keeping this group together. Because this group isn't winning anything. They've proven that. They'll probably even take a step back next year. It wouldn't surprise me. The problem is they are a middle of the road team that can beat up on the scrubs of the league so they look better than they are. As soon as they start to play some real contenders their true self shows through.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Better instincts and insights into our owners agendas than most . At least on this site. Because of my earlier history around our owners and the team. And of course 35 years unfortunately following him closely.

If you’d of followed me the last 15 + years on these forums you’d know my history.

Wel....shocker...I did not follow you for the past 15 years.

So....you have told everyone that you worked for the Cowboys, and personally know Jerry Jones, and are/were part of the decision makers of the Dallas Cowboys?
What exactly would I know about CowboysZone member "DiehardBlues" I I had been following you for 15 years?

 

[fivetwos]

I was going to mention this as well. Jerry is 82. At this point in his life he is not interested in going with a full-blown rebuild. No matter what the opinions are on Dak, he gives the Cowboys the best chance to win right now. The Cowboys are a playoff team with Dak at quarterback; and just having a chance at a postseason run is what matters to Jerry at this point.

I don't want to sound morbid, but making long term plans by starting over at quarterback is not something Jerry is interested in right now. He has a team right now that has a chance. And I think his age is a big reason why this franchise is hesitant to make really big changes.

Agree with the logic on the age, but it doesn’t take all that long to turn things around in the NFL.

He is better off trying to remake a better team for when he is 84-85 as opposed to trying to win with a team that clearly isn’t good enough.

Thing is, these two aren’t capable of doing anything like that, and I’m actually losing the faith I once had in McClay.

Bottom line is there’s no deep playoff run until things get desperate to where they need to hire a big personality to run the whole thing…but we know the reasons why that’s not likely, and the FA approach is never going to change either way.

 

[boysfanperiod]

All these new inventions and we can't even get a crying emoji?

This will have to do.