CFZ Why I believe there's no way this is a tear down-rebuild off-season

[FLWarpigrpig]

I see it as a two year reset of the cap. Lots of dead money already in 25 and a lot more if Dak is not resigned.

 

[chicago JK]

There is no tear down approach. After 28 years of failure they still think they are the smartest guys in the room.

 

[CTcowboy203]

They aren’t bob, dak is staying. Jerry will not give up on him and I’m not saying he should but what’s happening is the lack inactivity and letting guys go is now making fans try to make sense out of ownership that you can’t make sense of. What exactly are they doing? I don’t know but it’s not how anyone whether it here, the pundits or other executives thought would happen.

If it’s a rebuild then rebuild, if you’re competing then compete and load up the chamber and let’s go. Professional sports are an arms race and the cowboys just are acting inept right now. Resetting the cap is fine, but in the process you’re gonna waste 1-2 years of your 60 million dollar quarterbacks prime and he’ll be 32 when you’re ready to “go for it”.

 

[bandfan]

We are only a month into what is a full six months of the NFL‘s 2024 off-season calendar, and already many Cowboys fans are jumping to conclusions that may not be true. After Jerry’s infamous “All In” comments, many expected big changes in how this team approached the off-season. They of course haven’t surfaced.

And after the disappointing inactivity of this front office early in free agency, the loss of multiple FA starters to other teams, and a seeming willingness to let Dak Prescott play 2024 without a new contract or extension, some fans are seeing this as a “tear down and rebuild”. They see these signs as the team stripping it all down for a new QB, new HC, and rebuilt roster for 2025. In other words, some are seeing all this inactivity as a bigger plan to just clear the decks and start over.

I say there’s no way this FO is doing a tear down-rebuild. Why? Two reasons:

1. In the Jerry Jones era since 1989, this front office has only done two deliberately planned rebuilds: One under Jimmy Johnson from 1989-1992 and the second under Bill Parcells from 2003-2006. The Jones FO has NEVER done a rebuild without a strong HC in charge because they can’t do it. (Anyone who says 2016 was a rebuild- it was an accident- not planned)
2. Jerry and Stephen Jones literally do NOT know how to build a championship contending roster in the cap era. They have never done it. If they could do it, they would have already done it.

I of course could be wrong. Maybe JJ and SJ are spending this off-season just planning a complete re-tooling of this team’s future including a new QB and HC for 2025. But I don’t think so.

In fact, I predict this front office is planning on continuing their some old off-season approach of going cheap in FA, put all your improvement chips on the draft, and at the last minute re-sign the same QB that has gone 36-15 the last 3 regular seasons. I think that is a big mistake and one that will produce the same results we’ve been getting which is a WC playoff win every 4-5 years at best.

I understand why some fans are saying, “Big changes are coming.” I’m saying expect to see more of the same. I don’t like that and I hope I’m wrong. But why would we think the Jones boys suddenly “get it”, when we have three decades of evidence that say otherwise. Since SJ got a bigger say in what happens around here, when was the last big off-season “gamble“ this FO took?

Again, I hope I’m wrong.

Can't imagine why anyone would ever consider resigning a QB who was only 36-15 in 3 years. You people just kill me.....

 

[ArtClink]

We are only a month into what is a full six months of the NFL‘s 2024 off-season calendar, and already many Cowboys fans are jumping to conclusions that may not be true. After Jerry’s infamous “All In” comments, many expected big changes in how this team approached the off-season. They of course haven’t surfaced.

And after the disappointing inactivity of this front office early in free agency, the loss of multiple FA starters to other teams, and a seeming willingness to let Dak Prescott play 2024 without a new contract or extension, some fans are seeing this as a “tear down and rebuild”. They see these signs as the team stripping it all down for a new QB, new HC, and rebuilt roster for 2025. In other words, some are seeing all this inactivity as a bigger plan to just clear the decks and start over.

I say there’s no way this FO is doing a tear down-rebuild. Why? Two reasons:

1. In the Jerry Jones era since 1989, this front office has only done two deliberately planned rebuilds: One under Jimmy Johnson from 1989-1992 and the second under Bill Parcells from 2003-2006. The Jones FO has NEVER done a rebuild without a strong HC in charge because they can’t do it. (Anyone who says 2016 was a rebuild- it was an accident- not planned)
2. Jerry and Stephen Jones literally do NOT know how to build a championship contending roster in the cap era. They have never done it. If they could do it, they would have already done it.

I of course could be wrong. Maybe JJ and SJ are spending this off-season just planning a complete re-tooling of this team’s future including a new QB and HC for 2025. But I don’t think so.

In fact, I predict this front office is planning on continuing their some old off-season approach of going cheap in FA, put all your improvement chips on the draft, and at the last minute re-sign the same QB that has gone 36-15 the last 3 regular seasons. I think that is a big mistake and one that will produce the same results we’ve been getting which is a WC playoff win every 4-5 years at best.

I understand why some fans are saying, “Big changes are coming.” I’m saying expect to see more of the same. I don’t like that and I hope I’m wrong. But why would we think the Jones boys suddenly “get it”, when we have three decades of evidence that say otherwise. Since SJ got a bigger say in what happens around here, when was the last big off-season “gamble“ this FO took?

Again, I hope I’m wrong.

I think you have an excellent understanding of this “organization” and I appreciate the time you put into your posts.

 

[ArtClink]

I occasionally see the “big changes are coming“ comments from fans here, but if they were planning on big changes they show no signs of it. And for those saying Dak is not going to be re-signed, disappointment is coming. Im ready to move on from #4 but I see zero signs that the FO is ready to move on. Their reluctance in taking contract action is very typical for them.

They almost always negotiate in public thinking that helps them but their stalling has cost them every time with Dak. They will wait until t(e last minute and sign him again. They don’t know any other way. They haven’t drafted a QB in round one since Jerry had darker hair and no face lifts back in ‘89. They are the most risk averse franchise ever when it comes to QB.

You’re right. And ain’t it great our GM hates to waste a draft pick in the first round on the most important position (QB) on any nfl team? My bad, longer snapper is the most important position according to the fuhrer and son.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Can't imagine why anyone would ever consider resigning a QB who was only 36-15 in 3 years. You people just kill me.....

If they are assessing potential alternatives to Dak Prescott, that is prudent. If it’s a matter of not knowing what they want to do, that’s concerning. I thought they’d extend Dak to put them in a position to sign FAs to shore up position groups they feel need improvement. Since they have not done that, obviously they have a different plan. I hope they have a plan.

 

[Bobhaze]

Can't imagine why anyone would ever consider resigning a QB who was only 36-15 in 3 years. You people just kill me.....

I don’t disagree with you. Dak is better than way too many fans here will ever admit.

The problem as I see it is this FO does not know how to build around Dak because they fundamentally don’t understand what he is nor how to support him. He is a good starting NFL QB - better than 2/3 of the starters out there. But he cannot CARRY a team to a championship.

Even Pat Mahomes had to have a defense to win a championship this year. Dak needs a better defense and a running game. But this FO expects Dak to carry them. He can’t. Fans are blinded by the extreme amounts QBs get paid so they fail to understand that QBs are paid by the rule of simple economics- supply and demand. The supply of even decent QBs is very low, so the demand and pay is very high.

If if I were in Dak’s shoes, I would ask to be traded. Because this organization will once again not be able to put enough around him to win in the playoffs. It’s as predictable as a sunrise. With the right supporting cast around him, Dak could probably do better. But carrying this team? No way.

 

[ChuckA1]

Well, they brought Jimmy Johnson in to advise. Maybe they'll listen to him... no really.

 

[DandyDon52]

We are only a month into what is a full six months of the NFL‘s 2024 off-season calendar, and already many Cowboys fans are jumping to conclusions that may not be true. After Jerry’s infamous “All In” comments, many expected big changes in how this team approached the off-season. They of course haven’t surfaced.

And after the disappointing inactivity of this front office early in free agency, the loss of multiple FA starters to other teams, and a seeming willingness to let Dak Prescott play 2024 without a new contract or extension, some fans are seeing this as a “tear down and rebuild”. They see these signs as the team stripping it all down for a new QB, new HC, and rebuilt roster for 2025. In other words, some are seeing all this inactivity as a bigger plan to just clear the decks and start over.

I say there’s no way this FO is doing a tear down-rebuild. Why? Two reasons:

1. In the Jerry Jones era since 1989, this front office has only done two deliberately planned rebuilds: One under Jimmy Johnson from 1989-1992 and the second under Bill Parcells from 2003-2006. The Jones FO has NEVER done a rebuild without a strong HC in charge because they can’t do it. (Anyone who says 2016 was a rebuild- it was an accident- not planned)
2. Jerry and Stephen Jones literally do NOT know how to build a championship contending roster in the cap era. They have never done it. If they could do it, they would have already done it.

I of course could be wrong. Maybe JJ and SJ are spending this off-season just planning a complete re-tooling of this team’s future including a new QB and HC for 2025. But I don’t think so.

In fact, I predict this front office is planning on continuing their some old off-season approach of going cheap in FA, put all your improvement chips on the draft, and at the last minute re-sign the same QB that has gone 36-15 the last 3 regular seasons. I think that is a big mistake and one that will produce the same results we’ve been getting which is a WC playoff win every 4-5 years at best.

I understand why some fans are saying, “Big changes are coming.” I’m saying expect to see more of the same. I don’t like that and I hope I’m wrong. But why would we think the Jones boys suddenly “get it”, when we have three decades of evidence that say otherwise. Since SJ got a bigger say in what happens around here, when was the last big off-season “gamble“ this FO took?

Again, I hope I’m wrong.

we will have all the answers by the end of season and into next off season, maybe sooner.
I am hoping for certain things to happen, but no way am I counting on it.

Just waiting to see what happens, and already have other teams set up to root for come sept.

 

[Old'Boyfan]

If they are assessing potential alternatives to Dak Prescott, that is prudent. If it’s a matter of not knowing what they want to do, that’s concerning. I thought they’d extend Dak to put them in a position to sign FAs to shore up position groups they feel need improvement. Since they have not done that, obviously they have a different plan. I hope they have a plan.

A plan.
That's the thing. IS there a plan? I keep thinking of the kind of blank look on Jerry's face when he said "all in".
I think he was caught so flat-footed he didn't know what else to say.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Anybody believing the liar salesman Jerry again deserves to be disappointed this season. This team as built is way worse than last year's team......Cowboy fanbase are brain washed....

 

[America's Cowboy]

Lol. You guys simply don't get it. Or refuse to get it.

There is no way any smart owner or GM would want to get rid of their All Pro QB who has amongst the best regular season career stats than most QBs. Jerry is not that dumb. If you get rid of Dak, I guarantee both CeeDee and Micah will demand to be traded. There is no way they would want to remain here under a new and unproven young QB who would take years to get enough experience, years which CeeDee and Micah can not afford to lose now that they are in their primes.

 

[movaughn88]

Of course we aren't doing a tear down rebuild.

Anyone who advocates tearing down a team that has won 12 games 3 years in a row should have their head examined.

 

[VaqueroTD]

We are only a month into what is a full six months of the NFL‘s 2024 off-season calendar, and already many Cowboys fans are jumping to conclusions that may not be true. After Jerry’s infamous “All In” comments, many expected big changes in how this team approached the off-season. They of course haven’t surfaced.

And after the disappointing inactivity of this front office early in free agency, the loss of multiple FA starters to other teams, and a seeming willingness to let Dak Prescott play 2024 without a new contract or extension, some fans are seeing this as a “tear down and rebuild”. They see these signs as the team stripping it all down for a new QB, new HC, and rebuilt roster for 2025. In other words, some are seeing all this inactivity as a bigger plan to just clear the decks and start over.

I say there’s no way this FO is doing a tear down-rebuild. Why? Two reasons:

1. In the Jerry Jones era since 1989, this front office has only done two deliberately planned rebuilds: One under Jimmy Johnson from 1989-1992 and the second under Bill Parcells from 2003-2006. The Jones FO has NEVER done a rebuild without a strong HC in charge because they can’t do it. (Anyone who says 2016 was a rebuild- it was an accident- not planned)
2. Jerry and Stephen Jones literally do NOT know how to build a championship contending roster in the cap era. They have never done it. If they could do it, they would have already done it.

I of course could be wrong. Maybe JJ and SJ are spending this off-season just planning a complete re-tooling of this team’s future including a new QB and HC for 2025. But I don’t think so.

In fact, I predict this front office is planning on continuing their some old off-season approach of going cheap in FA, put all your improvement chips on the draft, and at the last minute re-sign the same QB that has gone 36-15 the last 3 regular seasons. I think that is a big mistake and one that will produce the same results we’ve been getting which is a WC playoff win every 4-5 years at best.

I understand why some fans are saying, “Big changes are coming.” I’m saying expect to see more of the same. I don’t like that and I hope I’m wrong. But why would we think the Jones boys suddenly “get it”, when we have three decades of evidence that say otherwise. Since SJ got a bigger say in what happens around here, when was the last big off-season “gamble“ this FO took?

Again, I hope I’m wrong.

100% They are as predictable as their HC play calling.

Every single player they have eliminated, you can point to 2-3 players at same area last 10 years that followed that same model. Only way to guarantee you have a star is you sell jerseys or you accept the old hometown discount.

Example: Interior linemen never re-signed unless All Pro, Safeties and TEs can re-sign if they're not All Pro as long as they stay cheap, Pass rush depth is never paid for, and so on...

People think because the HC and QB are in this situation, it means rebuild. Well, HC is just standard Jones business model. Every 4 years we have a lame duck in Big D, going back to Wade.

Romo never had the chance to go 10 years, his body took it from him, so Dak is new ground. But my guess is they would have kept paying and playing Romo no matter how many Playoff exits, so yes, I think a Dak extension is coming up.

Keep seeing comments about Jimmy Johnson advising. I thought that was just a quick conversation after season ended, no permanent role. Maybe a friendly call from Jerry every now and then now that they are buds again. Not sure why people acting like he's actively involved in personnel now.

 

[chuck520]

I occasionally see the “big changes are coming“ comments from fans here, but if they were planning on big changes they show no signs of it. And for those saying Dak is not going to be re-signed, disappointment is coming. Im ready to move on from #4 but I see zero signs that the FO is ready to move on. Their reluctance in taking contract action is very typical for them.

They almost always negotiate in public thinking that helps them but their stalling has cost them every time with Dak. They will wait until t(e last minute and sign him again. They don’t know any other way. They haven’t drafted a QB in round one since Jerry had darker hair and no face lifts back in ‘89. They are the most risk averse franchise ever when it comes to QB.

Dak isnt the problem the front office has created more holes this offseason than before. You blame Dak but the problem starts at the top. No QB can win with that team.

 

[chuck520]

Of course we aren't doing a tear down rebuild.

Anyone who advocates tearing down a team that has won 12 games 3 years in a row should have their head examined.

Not just that but anyone who thinks these guys running the team can do a rebuild is out of their mind

 

[chuck520]

Fully agree, and don’t see where we go from here.

It really needs to get to where it’s much worse before it has a remote shot of getting much better.

There’s two ways…

-They hire a Harbaugh type to come in and have full control.

-They luck into a Peyton Manning type QB, which means disaster season coincides with that player being in that draft.

It’s abundantly clear they aren’t building on something that hasn’t peaked yet, and are getting worse on paper. The last few drafts have hurt. I absolutely do NOT want these two heading a rebuild with Milli Vanilli in the background, so I’m not sure what to even root for as a fan.

They dont know what their doing. They got lucky when Parcells came in to rebuild, they lucked out getting Romo and Dak at QB because they dont know how to draft a QB and anyone who thinks they can do a rebuild is fooling themselves.

McCarthy is a good HC and probably as good as your are going to get. The Players and coaches are held back by the front office being cheap and not addressing needs.

 

[chuck520]

Rebuilding means admitting you were wrong and the Jones boys will never do that. We are not close, infact after this last season we are now even further behind. We have done nothing to noticeably improve the roster, while everyone else in our division has. We are a fringe playoff team at this point

 

[chuck520]

also very cheap