PFT: Cowboys seem to be willing to let Dak Prescott hit the market in 2025

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I see the haters say that but if that was true he would have sighed the extension already. See I wish fans like you would be honest and stop pulling opinions out your azzz. Dak was second team all pro. He is a good quarterback. Top 8 by general managers.The Cowboys know Dak’s worth and so does his agent. It’s not less then Hurts or Watson.
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Really, who cares. Those picks led to two scores, by which we lost by. Numbers are meaningless, the only thing that matters are wins. That's why the QB's who deliver the ring make the big bucks. Dak is not deserving of the pay day he is looking for. The Green Bay game changed the way Jerry is looking at things.
Somehow it never really changes the way Jerry looks at the real problem, which is himself. We had this same song and dance with Romo and Garrett and over a decade later the team looks the exact same. Coaches and qbs let Jerry ignore the real problem
 

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He is a good quarterback. Top 8 by general managers
I don't deny that he is a good QB, but what is the bold supposed to mean? It might hold some weight if GMs around the league didn't make dumb move after dumb move on a yearly basis. We won three super bowls largely due to arguably the worst trade in NFL history by a general manager.
 

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I know people still believe they are not extending Dak. But I don't see how they can do that. Are they not going to extend Lamb too? What about the free agents they have to get from the dumpster? Then you have the draft class. They need more than 5 million in cap space for this.

I think they are just taking their time. They didn't extend Trevor Lawrence or Tua yet, right? Not extending Dak right away makes it look like they don't have the space for free agents. That's all. If I still gambled, I'd bet a lot of money that he gets another 4 year extension before TC.
 

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8 years of starting QB experience tells us that Dak will never win a SB with any team

Put it in 18 inch headlines

When one understands this and understands that the objective is to win a SB, then the decision becomes easy: get rid of him anyway possible
So you would get rid of all the quarterbacks but Mahomes and Stafford. :huh:
 

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I don't deny that he is a good QB, but what is the bold supposed to mean? It might hold some weight if GMs around the league didn't make dumb move after dumb move on a yearly basis. We won three super bowls largely due to arguably the worst trade in NFL history by a general manager.
Yeah, I guess we fans no more then general managers. You probably believe you know more football then Jerry Jones and you would have won a bunch of Super Bowls if you were in charge of the Cowboys.
 

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So you would get rid of all the quarterbacks but Mahomes and Stafford. :huh:
Im getting rid of QBs that have STARTED for EIGHT years, have a 2-5 playoff record in EIGHT years, never won back to back playoff games in EIGHT years, never been to even a CCG let alone won a SB in EIGHT years starting, has bern directly responsible for SIGNIFICANT blame in this losses by throwing multiple picks and has a history of shrinking in playoff games over EIGHT years and still want 60 million per year, no trade clause and no franchise tag

You cannot put the amount to hand holding help a QB with Daks limitations needs around him if you pay him 60 million

This is more than enough evidence for any rational person that wants a SB to say that Dak needs to go, he does not have the capability to get it done . He is a proven failure in those situations

He may be a great guy but hes an above average QB that cannot elevate his game when the pressure is on. He is holding the franchise hostage and im ready to move on because as a fan, my objective is not “relevance” it is a SB
 

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Yeah, I guess we fans no more then general managers. You probably believe you know more football then Jerry Jones and you would have won a bunch of Super Bowls if you were in charge of the Cowboys.
Some do, some don't. Most general managers are just book keepers. They're hardly active. Do you really think Jerry Jones has some kind of divine insight into a player's ability that no one else has other than general managers?

What did the general managers think about Russel Wilson before he went to Denver? Or Watson before the Browns? We know what 2 of them thought. Even the best general managers make big mistakes. Carson Wentz.
 

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Im getting rid of QBs that have STARTED for EIGHT years, have a 2-5 playoff record in EIGHT years, never won back to back playoff games in EIGHT years, never been to even a CCG let alone won a SB in EIGHT years starting, has bern directly responsible for SIGNIFICANT blame in this losses by throwing multiple picks and has a history of shrinking in playoff games over EIGHT years and still want 60 million per year, no trade clause and no franchise tag

You cannot put the amount to hand holding help a QB with Daks limitations needs around him if you pay him 60 million

This is more than enough evidence for any rational person that wants a SB to say that Dak needs to go, he does not have the capability to get it done . He is a proven failure in those situations

He may be a great guy but hes an above average QB that cannot elevate his game when the pressure is on. He is holding the franchise hostage and im ready to move on because as a fan, my objective is not “relevance” it is a SB
Jay Cutler managed to stay on the Bears for 8 years without doing much.

Forget playoffs, what about the regular season against a really good team? Remember last year when the Ravens went into San Francisco and beat them? When was the last time the Cowboys had a signature win like that? I think we have to go back to 2016.
 

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So you would get rid of all the quarterbacks but Mahomes and Stafford. :huh:
No, but the problem is, for Dak to perform his to his top rated 'regular season' ability you need a defense which'll make sure he can stay in his comfort zone,you also need a running game (to overcome the Blueprint).
He's undoutably got talents, but he's got an Achilles Heel that repeatedly gets exposed..... blame the rest of the roster (that's fair), blame the FO, but I can't see how we'd step up to the next level when your 'market setting' QB has a tendency to whilt under the pressure.
 

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Im getting rid of QBs that have STARTED for EIGHT years, have a 2-5 playoff record in EIGHT years, never won back to back playoff games in EIGHT years, never been to even a CCG let alone won a SB in EIGHT years starting, has bern directly responsible for SIGNIFICANT blame in this losses by throwing multiple picks and has a history of shrinking in playoff games over EIGHT years and still want 60 million per year, no trade clause and no franchise tag

You cannot put the amount to hand holding help a QB with Daks limitations needs around him if you pay him 60 million

This is more than enough evidence for any rational person that wants a SB to say that Dak needs to go, he does not have the capability to get it done . He is a proven failure in those situations

He may be a great guy but hes an above average QB that cannot elevate his game when the pressure is on. He is holding the franchise hostage and im ready to move on because as a fan, my objective is not “relevance” it is a SB
You guys overate the talent we have on offense but underrate the quarterback. Zeke had one great season and I am going to say it was because of the best run blocking line in football. As the line got older Zeke got worse. Cooper was a good receiver but an All-Pro like Dez 2014 or CeeDee 2023. I don’t think so. Dak has led a top 5 offense in the NFL since 2020. He is not the reason the Cowboys have not won a Super Bowl.
 

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No, but the problem is, for Dak to perform his to his top rated 'regular season' ability you need a defense which'll make sure he can stay in his comfort zone,you also need a running game (to overcome the Blueprint).
He's undoutably got talents, but he's got an Achilles Heel that repeatedly gets exposed..... blame the rest of the roster (that's fair), blame the FO, but I can't see how we'd step up to the next level when your 'market setting' QB has a tendency to whilt under the pressure.
Dak should take the blame he is the quarterback of the team and he pooped his pants against the Packers. The players were actually looking to him to take the reins after the Packers destroyed our defense on the first drive. Dak missed a pass to CeeDee that should have been a first down and kept the drive alive. My issue is there is not a quarterback the Cowboys can bring in that is better than Dak. Some of you all want us to draft Nix/Penix or start Lance. Most likely that would end in a disaster. I guess if we trade CeeDee and Parsons, get 5 early round picks, then hope we suck enough to draft Dieon’s son. That would bring the circus back to town.
 

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Dak should take the blame he is the quarterback of the team and he pooped his pants against the Packers. The players were actually looking to him to take the reins after the Packers destroyed our defense on the first drive. Dak missed a pass to CeeDee that should have been a first down and kept the drive alive. My issue is there is not a quarterback the Cowboys can bring in that is better than Dak. Some of you all want us to draft Nix/Penix or start Lance. Most likely that would end in a disaster. I guess if we trade CeeDee and Parsons, get 5 early round picks, then hope we suck enough to draft Dieon’s son. That would bring the circus back to town.
The fact there's no-one better than Dak doesn't mean you pay him 'market setting' money. As in 2016, you look to build in other ways....an O-Line that protects (Purdy, Hurts and Dak have benefited from that strategy), alternatively build a defense ala Ravens.
Dak isn't improving, so stop throwing money at him and hoping.
 

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I don’t think it comes down to them loving him, it comes down to who can they get that’s better. That’s dilemma with letting him go. It’s not like the Cowboys have a better option to turn to and coming up with a better option won’t be easy.
I think it comes down to either extend our mediocrity or not. We'll end up in the same situation afterwards either way.
 

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Say what you want about his ability to run a football organization, but you can't say he's a bad business man.

Getting burned twice by a loser is bad business and a bad investment.
he is a businessman. what part did you miss? the cap is set!!. nobody spends more than the cap (if you understand how cap works). there is also a cap floor. nobody spends less than the cap floor.
so what difference does it make to Jerry the business man. his major expenses are capped!.

how did he lose in the Dak deal first time around as a businessman? Dak was #5 Jersey sales in 2023. #6 in Jersey sales in 2022. #2 in 2021. that's cha ching to Jerry.
if that revenue becomes threatened, then he will make a move. otherwise as a businessman there is no motivation. with mediocre teams the cowboys are the most valued franchise in the WORLD.

does winning matter to Jerry? not as much as making money. 29 years and counting. bad decisions after bad decisions. he never learns. except when it maximizes profits.
 

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The fact there's no-one better than Dak doesn't mean you pay him 'market setting' money. As in 2016, you look to build in other ways....an O-Line that protects (Purdy, Hurts and Dak have benefited from that strategy), alternatively build a defense ala Ravens.
Dak isn't improving, so stop throwing money at him and hoping.
The Cowboys are not going to pay him a record setting contract. When the contract is done look at the guarantees. He will get paid like a top 5 quarterback because that is what he is but it won’t be ground breaking. His last contract Dak was underpaid.
 

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Yeah, I guess we fans no more then general managers. You probably believe you know more football then Jerry Jones and you would have won a bunch of Super Bowls if you were in charge of the Cowboys.
Yes. Its not rocket science.
 

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he is a businessman. what part did you miss? the cap is set!!. nobody spends more than the cap (if you understand how cap works). there is also a cap floor. nobody spends less than the cap floor.
so what difference does it make to Jerry the business man. his major expenses are capped!.

how did he lose in the Dak deal first time around as a businessman? Dak was #5 Jersey sales last year. that's cha ching to Jerry.
if that revenue becomes threatened, then he will make a move. otherwise as a businessman there is no motivation. with mediocre teams the cowboys are the most valued franchise in the WORLD.

does winning matter to Jerry? not as much as making money. 29 years and counting. bad decisions after bad decisions. he never learns. except when it maximizes profits.
Didn't you create a thread the other day boasting about how you thought Dak was out the door after the season?

Did something change or are you just wanting to be argumentative?
 
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