Eagles (GM & cap boy) vs Cowboys (GM & cap boy)

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because we were still paying Romo...

They were still paying Dak 2020?

 

[jujoboys]

The Eagles have signed Jalen Hurts to a $51 million per year extension and still have the cap to surround him with AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Dallas Goedert and Saquan Barkley. That may be the best offensive supporting cast in the entire NFL along with the 49ers. The Cowboys are about to resign Ezekiel Elliott.

The Eagles went ahead and took all of the CAP hits late in Jalen's contract. The CAP hits are there but they just went ahead and pushed them out from the start of the contract instead of pushing the CAP hits out annually like Dallas does. It ends up[ having the same effect. Dallas could lower Dak's CAP hit if they wanted by pushing more money in the future like the Eagles have done with Hurts. Hurts isn't even under contract with the Eagles in 2029 but is counting $97.5 million against their cap that year.

 

[acr731]

oh geez. 4 years ago we signed Dak to then a 160M contract. his first year cap hit was 17M, second year 19M, 3rd year 26M....and we had signed Tyron, Lawrence, Zeke, Martin, Steele, Diggs, etc. along the way. every team at some point has to pay the price. at some point, eagles would have to decide to extend Hurts or walk away and take massive hit. Dallas is at that point, take a massiv ehit and walk away.

so its not about the cap. its about signing the right players. our GM doesn't know the right players. cap is easily manipulated.

Has Dak been to a super bowl like Hurts? Then you tell me who earned their contract and who didn't

 

[acr731]

LOL. And the Eagles were dealing with Wentz’s dead money.

At least they were smart enough to dump him before they got stuck with him.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I dont recall the Eagles suffering much after signing Wentz.

they did when they released him. they got lucky to draft Hurts and he came at a low cost and was better than Wentz.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Has Dak been to a super bowl like Hurts? Then you tell me who earned their contract and who didn't

OMG, you all are so triggered. I the fact that cap is not the issue in signing players. cap gets manipulated. why don't we have a cap room this year? because we chose not to extend dak. Every team comes to that point, either extend or take the cap hit. Eagles will get there too as Hurts contract is backloaded. again, nothing to do with deserving, not deserving, etc. just that the contract isn not a handicap. wasn't.

with that said, Hurts showed he can't lift a team. he collapsed. last year, he had a top 3 Running game. top OL in all of NFL. top 5, if not top 3 WR group. and a great defense. was he able to take advantage and get his team to superbowl? yes. is he deserving? if you compare him to Burrows or Mahomes, he is not.

 

[CWR]

they did when they released him. they got lucky to draft Hurts and he came at a low cost and was better than Wentz.

They traded him for a 1st and 3rd then proceeded to have a free agency that would blow our efforts out of the water every year since Brandon Car. Where was the suffering?

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-free-agency-tracker-2021

 

[Chasing6]

maximize profits. there is a cap floor, which each team is bound by.

Not the point. We can spend money now and spread it out to over the future cap years.

It is a choice to not spend money now.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

They traded him for a 1st and 3rd then proceeded to have a free agency that would blow our efforts out of the water every year since Brandon Car. Where was the suffering?

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-free-agency-tracker-2021

they have a better GM. there is a difference between Cap strapped and having a GM that signs the right players. We traded Cooper for a 5th. a top 10 WR in the league. and then paid a 4th for SF 3rd stringer.

in 2022 we had about 20M on the cap. didn't sign anyone. in 2023 we had about 15M on the cap. didn't sign anyone. we sign scraps and bottom of the barrell players. make stupid trades.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Not the point. We can spend money now and spread it out to over the future cap years.

It is a choice to not spend money now.

I am sure there is profit/financial reasons behind it. with Jerry its all about the money. I mean for gawd's sake he talked about Coaches Dead money. so he had Garrett until last year of his contract as a lame duck coach. MM is getting the same treatment.

 

[Chasing6]

I am sure there is profit/financial reasons behind it. with Jerry its all about the money. I mean for gawd's sake he talked about Coaches Dead money. so he had Garrett until last year of his contract as a lame duck coach. MM is getting the same treatment.

Changing the coaches is just another marketing ploy for the fans.

Our coaches do not make decisions.

 

[CWR]

they have a better GM. there is a difference between Cap strapped and having a GM that signs the right players. We traded Cooper for a 5th. a top 10 WR in the league. and then paid a 4th for SF 3rd stringer.

in 2022 we had about 20M on the cap. didn't sign anyone. in 2023 we had about 15M on the cap. didn't sign anyone. we sign scraps and bottom of the barrell players. make stupid trades.

That's my point. The cap isn't the problem, it's the clowns running the show. They use it as a convenient excuse not to spend. Jerry just got done telling us about the plague of dead money spent on coaches in the NFL, which we all know doesn't count against the cap. Good to know it's a big consideration for him though.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That's my point. The cap isn't the problem, it's the clowns running the show. They use it as a convenient excuse not to spend. Jerry just got done telling us about the plague of dead money spent on coaches in the NFL, which we all know doesn't count against the cap. Good to know it's a big consideration for him though.

oh, a 100000% agree. Jerry and Stephen are clowns. great businessmen, suck at football.

and the dead money on coaches just blew my mind. he once said, if they are talking about us (negatively), we have done our job. tells you everything you need to know.

 

[Jfconrow]

It sure seems like they save the money but they still have to spend 90% of the Cap. They can only save around $25M per year. In the past they have chosen to resign their star players with that money instead of going to FA. Saving the money by playing draft picks allows them to be more competitive resigning vets, even though most of it goes to the QB.

 

[The Fonz]

We have the best GM and an outstanding Cap Boy SB here we come

 

[Chasing6]

they have a better GM. there is a difference between Cap strapped and having a GM that signs the right players. We traded Cooper for a 5th. a top 10 WR in the league. and then paid a 4th for SF 3rd stringer.

in 2022 we had about 20M on the cap. didn't sign anyone. in 2023 we had about 15M on the cap. didn't sign anyone. we sign scraps and bottom of the barrell players. make stupid trades.

We carried over $10M from 2023 to 2024 when we had a glaring hole at LB, never mind treading a 4th for an emergency back up QB.

We easily have traded a 4th for a LB last year.

 

[ghst187]

They play chess we play checkers

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

They were still paying Dak 2020?

Dak was on franchise tag in 2020, so he was making top 5 money by then

2019 was the only year Dak was on his rookie deal and Romo wasn’t in the cap. But the problem with 2019 is that it was widely reported Dak and Dallas were in heavy negotiations as he was eligible after 2018, so Dallas had to hold cap space for that. In September 2019, Dallas still had to hold over 20m$ in cap space in lieu of a deal, as Dak’s first year cap hit did end up being 17m$ in 2021 of the contract.

 

[Corso]

LOL. And the Eagles were dealing with Wentz’s dead money.

All I'm saying is it played a factor to the team.
I said nothing else about how they could have, or should have handled it.

You should know how this team operates.

 

[Corso]

It was hitting throughout Daks whole rookie deal though?

I guess. It's not like the team was operating under a true QB rook salary and let it ride.

I'm sure the team could have done more, but this is the team and it's leadership we follow and we already know how they do things.