Twitter: Comparing Cowboys off-season talent losses vs additions

[morasp]

Tyron Smith, LT (Jets) played 13 games will be replaced by Tyler or draft pick
Tony Pollard, RB (Titans) A very pedestrian 4 Y/A 5.7 Y/R last season Dowdle had 4.1 Y/A 8.5 Y/R will be addressed in draft
Johnathan Hankins, DT (Seahawks) Mazi, Davis and probably a draft pick will replace him
Dorance Armstrong, DE (Commanders) Williams will replace him
Tyler Biadasz, C (Commanders) Good draft for Centers
Dante Fowler, DE (Commanders) rotational backup
Noah Igbinoghene, CB (Commanders) who
Johnathan Hankins, DT (Seahawks) We lost him twice?
Neville Gallimore, DT (Dolphins) rotational backup Fehoko should be able to replace him
Michael Gallup, WR (released) 34/418 Y/R Tolbert will be an upgrade need to draft one in the deep WR draft and not on day 3
Leighton Vander Esch, LB (released) Kendricks will be an upgade

 

[Typhus]

Jerry gave the team books but nobody read them.

ya that dang playbook, who needs to read that.

 

[Typhus]

Tyron Smith, LT (Jets) played 13 games will be replaced by Tyler or draft pick
Tony Pollard, RB (Titans) A very pedestrian 4 Y/A 5.7 Y/R last season Dowdle had 4/1 Y/A 8.5 Y/R will be addressed in draft
Johnathan Hankins, DT (Seahawks) Mazi, Davis and probably a draft pick will replace him
Dorance Armstrong, DE (Commanders) Williams will replace him
Tyler Biadasz, C (Commanders) Good draft for Centers
Dante Fowler, DE (Commanders) rotational backup
Noah Igbinoghene, CB (Commanders) who
Johnathan Hankins, DT (Seahawks) We lost him twice?
Neville Gallimore, DT (Dolphins) rotational backup
Michael Gallup, WR (released) Tolbert will be an upgrade need to draft one in the deep WR draft and not on day 3
Leighton Vander Esch, LB (released) Kendricks will be an upgade

Had to trim that fat.

 

[Diehardblues]

That is a huge loss of talent. In fact, it’s a loss of 8 starters. When you look at the loss of talent we’ve had this off-season vs the guys we either resigned or added in free agency, the draft sets up to be the highest stakes draft I have ever seen in Dallas.

Frankly, there‘s no way this team can be competitive in 2024 without either:

1. Hitting a home run with the draft, gaining at least 2-3 starters with immediate positive impact.
2. Have a really good draft coupled with some cheap but impactful free agents that contribute immediately.

If we’re being honest, is there a front office in the entire NFL that could pull that off? Certainly not in Dallas.

There’s no comparison . Huge losses with few additions but most would probably say expected losses.

What needs to be considered though is replacing several of these losses in starting line up with talent we’ve been developing already on the roster.

And that’s all part of the Cap era. Most rosters turn over about 25% or more each year and why it’s so vital to continue drafting well developing players hopefully ready to step in and start without a huge drop off. Along with a good draft to help fill.

Time will tell but it no doubt appears we have less talent than last year.

 

[ThatJerryKid]

Why did we even bother signing our lone outsider? One little blip on our "we like our guys" radar.

Because one addition didn’t screw up our max 4 comp picks allowed in 2025.

 

[jujoboys]

Horrible contract language tied Jerry up like a hog on this one.

lol. Funny analogy since Jerry is a former Arkansas Razorback and it actually sounds like something Jerry would say. Yes, Dak and his agent basically beat Jerry in every facet of that contract.

Players usually want a 3 or 4 year contract since only about 3 years are usually guaranteed. Plus they can get to free agency sooner. Teams usually like 5 or more years to spread out CAP hit. Dak signed a 4 year contract. Dak win #1.

No trade clause - Dak dictates any terms of a potential trade - Dak win #2

No tag clause - Forces Dallas to negotiate an extension or get into a bidding war after contract expires. Again sets Dak up to maximize his compensation. - Dak win #3

Dak got pretty much a max contract at the time he signed - No discount given - Dak win #4

 

[baltcowboy]

The Cowboys are not just depending on the draft but have hope for second, third, and fourth year players like Mazi, Overshown, Sam, Schoonmaker, Tolbert, Bass, Hoffman, and Richards types. You add in the draft picks which I believe you should be able to get three starters in the first 3 rounds. The Cowboys could be a similar team to last season. Dak,CeeDee, and Parsons can actually play better as well. Then you have the most dangerous cornerback duo in the NFL with Bland and Diggs. This is not a bad team like many chicken littles want them to be.

 

[jgboys1]

You should be more concerned with Home Depot, they will have an employee shortage in a few months

Our Home Depot guys look like Home Depot guys when they play against other teams, but if another NFL team signs Home Depot guys, they all look like league MVPs and first ballot Hall Of Famers, when they play against us.

 

[Verdict]

That is a huge loss of talent. In fact, it’s a loss of 8 starters. When you look at the loss of talent we’ve had this off-season vs the guys we either resigned or added in free agency, the draft sets up to be the highest stakes draft I have ever seen in Dallas.

Frankly, there‘s no way this team can be competitive in 2024 without either:

1. Hitting a home run with the draft, gaining at least 2-3 starters with immediate positive impact.
2. Have a really good draft coupled with some cheap but impactful free agents that contribute immediately.

If we’re being honest, is there a front office in the entire NFL that could pull that off? Certainly not in Dallas.

Most of the players who left were more of a liability than an asset. Tyron was a shell of his former self and needed to go two years ago. Gallup never fully panned out and regressed after his injury. He also needed to go.

The loss of Armstrong will hurt a little bit in the depth department but something tells me that will be a draft priority.

The one that doesn’t make sense is not re-signing Hankins in the cheap.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

No I meant to compare the losses of talent vs the additions.

I don;t consider resigns "additions".

What have we ADDED so far? I know...it's early.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This draft is very good. The problem will be that there will be good players available for every team.

And we will still manage to select injured/rehab players really high.

 

[Bobhaze]

The Cowboys are not just depending on the draft but have hope for second, third, and fourth year players like Mazi, Overshown, Sam, Schoonmaker, Tolbert, Bass, Hoffman, and Richards types. You add in the draft picks which I believe you should be able to get three starters in the first 3 rounds. The Cowboys could be a similar team to last season. Dak,CeeDee, and Parsons can actually play better as well. Then you have the most dangerous cornerback duo in the NFL with Bland and Diggs. This is not a bad team like many chicken littles want them to be.

I understand that thinking. But I would consider that another “best case scenario” style of vision, which more a sales pitch than a sound, strategic plan to get better.

The key question or idea that seems to escape our front office - How can you realistically get better with the same people that have consistently underachieved in the playoffs? That’s just “magical thinking”. Could it happen? Unlikely, but it is possible. But that’s the worst way to build a team that is built to compete for a Lombardi.

I can only conclude these guys are not serious about building a roster that can win multiple playoff games.

 

[MikeT22]

He is really getting doom and gloom.

I can’t imagine why

 

[john van brocklin]

Well said. This front office is one of the least strategic and proactive in pro sports. In essence, this team has become a sports marketing machine, not an organization that is completely committed to winning a championship.

One reason this is true is the Jones boys don’t know how to build a championship roster in the modern cap era. They have proven year after year - for decades - they don’t know how to do it and they can’t admit their ignorance. So they do what they do know how to do- sales and marketing.

As we approached the 2023 season, it seemed to me that the Cowboys FO was approaching it differently. The pre-draft trades for Gilmore and Cooks, the new contract for Zack Martin…there was a different feel to last year. Last year was as close to “all in” the Jones FO has been in a long time,

This year - so far anyway - feels like they are anything but “all in”. If there’s a strategic plan here, I’m not seeing it yet. Maybe after the draft it will start to make sense. But I doubt it.

On top of the loss of all the talent,
You got Jerry saying we were all in.
It's like rubbing salt in the wound.

 

[MikeT22]

I’ve come to the conclusion that either we are tanking 2024 or our FO is completely inept.

I think it’s both

 

[john van brocklin]

I understand that thinking. But I would consider that another “best case scenario” style of vision, which more a sales pitch than a sound, strategic plan to get better.

The key question or idea that seems to escape our front office - How can you realistically get better with the same people that have consistently underachieved in the playoffs? That’s just “magical thinking”. Could it happen? Unlikely, but it is possible. But that’s the worst way to build a team that is built to compete for a Lombardi.

I can only conclude these guys are not serious about building a roster that can win multiple playoff games.

Hope is not a strategy, unless you are the Dallas Cowboys.

 

[stiletto]

We shall see, I think a very very ACTIVE draft to get talent would make us fans a bit happier

It would have to be an all world draft. You are lucky if you get 1 or 2 starting caliber players in any single draft. It can be done but anything more than that is highly unlikely.

 

[john van brocklin]

Jerry is positioning the team to be sold.

1. Free up Cap Space
2. Entire coaching staff on 1 year deal.
3. Amass draft picks. Trade back for future picks.
4. Tank the season for a high draft pick.
5. 4 Comp Picks next year.

New Owner can pick Coaching staff and have multiple picks to rebuild trade up for a QB of their choice.

Just look and follow Washington model that was sold for $6B. Jerry could easily get $12B.

I think this board would party like 1999
If the Jones sold the team.
I just can't imagine Jerry selling his favorite toy.

 

[ChuckA1]

Once again, spot on Bobh

 

[baltcowboy]

I understand that thinking. But I would consider that another “best case scenario” style of vision, which more a sales pitch than a sound, strategic plan to get better.

The key question or idea that seems to escape our front office - How can you realistically get better with the same people that have consistently underachieved in the playoffs? That’s just “magical thinking”. Could it happen? Unlikely, but it is possible. But that’s the worst way to build a team that is built to compete for a Lombardi.

I can only conclude these guys are not serious about building a roster that can win multiple playoff games.

The problem is the Dallas Cowboys are a draft and development team. They have been that way since Garrett became head coach. In the Joneses mind that works best. To them 36 wins in three seasons is the proof. Unless the Cowboys somehow finish 5-12 without a major injury to the big 4, the strategy won’t change. I have said it before MM, Dak, CeeDee, and Parsons will not let this team collapse.