The Condemning Air Yards Stat

[DIAF]

Exactly. This is why I suggested two years ago that Dallas build the team to run the football and play stout defense. Take the pressure off Dak, or make him dispensable. No need to pay him the ridiculous money they pay him.

And btw, who had Zack Martin falling apart on their Bingo card? Before teh season I think we assume he would be the same guy we have seen every year. His demise has really been a problem for the offense this year.

add to that the awful play on the edges from the worst tackle duo in the nfl, and you've got 3 negatives on the line. THAT is what is limiting the play calling, if anything. If your QB can't get time you can't run deeper routes.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Exactly. This is why I suggested two years ago that Dallas build the team to run the football and play stout defense. Take the pressure off Dak, or make him dispensable. No need to pay him the ridiculous money they pay him.

And btw, who had Zack Martin falling apart on their Bingo card? Before teh season I think we assume he would be the same guy we have seen every year. His demise has really been a problem for the offense this year.

Good point, I think we had some signs last season, but I dont think anyone saw it going this quick. Honestly I think part of the problem is having the two rookies too. Guyton requires a lot of help on his side in pass pro. Beebe, even though I love the player this is a new position for him and I think Zach is helping him and not getting the same level of help he had last year with Biadasz. The ripple effect in football is unlike any other sport. Its 11 guys on the field and they are all dependent upon each other. Martin is probably still good enough to play in this league, but they dont have the talent on offense to hide his flaws at this point.

 

[Proof]

IMO Air Yards tell you more about a QB than many other stats. I went back and manually looked at all 3 QBs in tonight’s game and looked at air yards relative to the line of scrimmage. While some screens are designed to be negative air yards, in general you want a QB that’s able to throw downfield when needed.

Kirk cousins had a net of 73 yards through the air, with everything else coming through YAC. That’s 3.7 Yards beyond the LOS per completion. Not bad bus driving.

Cooper Rush also had 73 yards on only 14 throws, and he would’ve had way more if Ceedee or Jaylen could’ve snagged their deep balls. That’s 5.2 air yards beyond LOS per completion. Well done, Coop. Way to sling it.

Dak had 22 completions, and netted a whopping 35 net air yards the whole game. He only had 8 net air yards in the whole first half! That’s 1.7 yards beyond the LOS per completion. That is objectively awful.

The question is, who do we blame this on? The Oline? The coaches for the scheme and play calling, or Dak for not seeing the field or having bad accuracy down range? Or maybe the scheme is a reflection of Daks issues.

You tell me

the game script seemed to specifically be to have a short and quick passing attack yesterday. and it appeared to be pretty effective and the announcers mentioned it over and over when the offense was moving and dak was like 12-12.

 

[morat1959]

This is getting ridiculous. We can't talk about the offense on this board without it getting made into DAK THIS DAK THAT.

Look, Dak has 3 Pro Bowls, 2 top 10 MVP finishes (including a 2nd place finish in 2023), and has a career per-17 game season average of 30 TDs/11 Ints, 67% completion, and 4300 yards. He's never been ELITE but he's not limiting the play calling, don't be ridiculous.

He's not playing well at all this year and I think a huge part of that is coaching, playcalling, and the garbage supporting cast. That's not an excuse for his play it's just a fact. Unless you have Pat Mahomes or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, your QB isn't going to be successful under these conditions.

I would start by getting rid of Schotty and MM. You don't fix the offense without one or both of these things happening.

Starts, stats and more stats….you don’t know because you can’t see. Have you ever broke down game film? You don’t have to break it down if you know what you’re seeing in games. Dak is garbage.

 

[DIAF]

Starts, stats and more stats….you don’t know because you can’t see. Have you ever broke down game film? You don’t have to break it down if you know what you’re seeing in games. Dak is garbage.

Garbage QBs put up garbage numbers. You going to tell me you've broken down game film from every Dak Prescott start since 2016? Or did you watch a couple of Youtubers who break down game film and watched a few where Dak struggled?

I'm not trying to tell you Dak is great, or Elite, or even a consistent NFL top 10 qb. He isn't. But he certainly isn't trash either, we have years of previous games that point to exactly the opposite.

For someone who allegedly watches film breakdown of every Cowboys game, surely you've noticed how bad the rest of the offense is isolated from the QB play, right? Right?

I thought so.

Man, I hate this board sometimes.

 

[Vtwin]

#1 scoring offense 2 of the last 3 seasons, and top 5 the other season because they played nothing but bad defenses all three of those years. Got it!

You sound totally reasonable and don't have an agenda against Dak at all. Thanks for proving my point.

You think the fact that the defense was either #1,or in the top 3 in turnovers over that same period may have had something to do with the offense's productivity?

This is the same Dak we've always seen. He just doesn't have the horses to carry him this season.

 

[tm1119]

You think the fact that the defense was either #1,or in the top 3 in turnovers over that same period may have had something to do with the offense's productivity?

This is the same Dak we've always seen. He just doesn't have the horses to carry him this season.

Neither does Patrick Mahomes and he’s struggling because of it. Almost like 1 guy can’t be expected to do it all.

And no I’m not comparing Dak to Mahomes. And no I’m not saying Dak is playing well by any means. But you also would have to be blinded by hate to put everything on 1 guy. This is a broken franchise that will never succeed while Jerry is running it. Bring in the next QB, I promise it won’t take long for you to hate him too.

 

[Vtwin]

Neither does Patrick Mahomes and he’s struggling because of it. Almost like 1 guy can’t be expected to do it all.

And no I’m not comparing Dak to Mahomes. And no I’m not saying Dak is playing well by any means. But you also would have to be blinded by hate to put everything on 1 guy. This is a broken franchise that will never succeed while Jerry is running it. Bring in the next QB, I promise it won’t take long for you to hate him too.

Point to where I put everything on one guy. You might have me confused with someone else. If Dak played at Mahomes level this team still isn't going anywhere.

That doesn't change the fact that this Dak is essentially the same Dak we've always seen. His physical and mental skills didn't just drop off a cliff in one offseason. The lack of help elsewhere is just magnifying the same fundamental flaws that have always existed.

You don't think top of the league turnover production helped the offense the last 3 seasons?

 

[MyFairLady]

And btw, who had Zack Martin falling apart on their Bingo card?

I did and so did anyone else who had been paying attention. The day I heard about his hold out I said this guy is clearly looking to sign one more deal and retire. His play was already declining and he knew he didn't have it in him to get to the end of his deal and sign a new one. These things are so obvious but people choose to ignore them because they prefer to live in a fantasy world. We deserve all of the suffering. Almost every single bit of it was very predictable including this one.

 

[TNCowboy]

The question is, who do we blame this on? The Oline? The coaches for the scheme and play calling, or Dak for not seeing the field or having bad accuracy down range? Or maybe the scheme is a reflection of Daks issues.

At the end of the day, all the blame winds up in one place. Trying to nuance it by blaming players, coaches, etc is just a distraction.

 

[CowboyStar88]

You mean like Dak does several times every season to fool you stans into thinking he played well?

They walk into every single time. lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

IMO Air Yards tell you more about a QB than many other stats. I went back and manually looked at all 3 QBs in tonight’s game and looked at air yards relative to the line of scrimmage. While some screens are designed to be negative air yards, in general you want a QB that’s able to throw downfield when needed.

Kirk cousins had a net of 73 yards through the air, with everything else coming through YAC. That’s 3.7 Yards beyond the LOS per completion. Not bad bus driving.

Cooper Rush also had 73 yards on only 14 throws, and he would’ve had way more if Ceedee or Jaylen could’ve snagged their deep balls. That’s 5.2 air yards beyond LOS per completion. Well done, Coop. Way to sling it.

Dak had 22 completions, and netted a whopping 35 net air yards the whole game. He only had 8 net air yards in the whole first half! That’s 1.7 yards beyond the LOS per completion. That is objectively awful.

The question is, who do we blame this on? The Oline? The coaches for the scheme and play calling, or Dak for not seeing the field or having bad accuracy down range? Or maybe the scheme is a reflection of Daks issues.

You tell me

Well I think a more accurate way of telling is to see what Daks stats in garbage time look like in comparison to Rush’s in garbage time.

 

[Mikexike]

Its Dak, There is nothing more to it.

He is playing with no confidence and bad awareness, everything is off with him. Just awful

 

[CowboyStar88]

Ridiculous stat. It’s about playcalling, dink and dunk. That’s what they call for Prescott. They make him get the ball out fast. I’m not sticking up for him or anybody else but it’s ridiculous. Just like all the rest of them. The only statistic I care about playoff wins.

You realize they do this because he struggles with his post snap read. They have to push him to be more decisive. Greg Olsen mentioned this yesterday. Dak admitted to struggling against GB with it. But guess what? It’s always been a problem you should dive down that rabbit hole. This is a long standing issue, and now his athletic ability is in decline he can’t lean on it regularly to overcome his struggles with it.

You’re not going to get those playoff wins with a declining Dak if you didn’t get them with a young athlete Dak.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Dak is a Tier 3 QB (Hence his pick 4th round) who has been carried by his teammates and facing lousy quality opponents since 2 QB went down in a pre-season game for him to start in 2016.

No ONE is to Blame you got a PIG for a QB and no matter how much lipstick you put on him he will still sweat and look like a PIG!!

Until this Piggy gets axed from under center all we're doing is sacrificing more players for the Dak Cause!!!

Thanks, Hillbilly Jerry!

Is that Elton Bacon? lol

 

[CowboyStar88]

Add to the fact our offense is so boring and anemic!!!
OMG, I'd rather watch these 2 below go at it than another offensive drive with HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Why would you link that weirdos tweets here?

 

[MarcusRock]

Been saying for a while that Dak is not a down the field passer. People love to trot out that "deep passes" stat but those stats only consider "deep" 20 yards. When I looked at the charts to compare 30+ air yard passes from the LOS on the NextGen site, Dak has the worst completion percentage among some of the top QBs with at least 4 attempts this year. Russell Wilson has only played 2 games but is arguably the best modern day bomb ball thrower out there.

Purdy .......... 3/4
Wilson ......... 3/5
Goff .............. 5/9, 3 TDs
Darnold......... 5/9, 2 TDs
Hurts ............ 7/14, 3 TDs, 1 INT
Herbert ........ 3/6, 1 TD
Mahomes ..... 2/4, 1 TD
Rodgers ....... 2/4, 1 TD, 1 INT
Burrow .......... 4/9, 2 TDs
Allen .............. 4/10
Lawrence ...... 3/10, 1 TD, 1 INT
Stafford ......... 3/11, 2 INTs
Jackson ........ 3/12, 1 TD
Dak ............... 2/11, 2 INTs

 

[OGSixshooter]

IMO Air Yards tell you more about a QB than many other stats. I went back and manually looked at all 3 QBs in tonight’s game and looked at air yards relative to the line of scrimmage. While some screens are designed to be negative air yards, in general you want a QB that’s able to throw downfield when needed.

Kirk cousins had a net of 73 yards through the air, with everything else coming through YAC. That’s 3.7 Yards beyond the LOS per completion. Not bad bus driving.

Cooper Rush also had 73 yards on only 14 throws, and he would’ve had way more if Ceedee or Jaylen could’ve snagged their deep balls. That’s 5.2 air yards beyond LOS per completion. Well done, Coop. Way to sling it.

Dak had 22 completions, and netted a whopping 35 net air yards the whole game. He only had 8 net air yards in the whole first half! That’s 1.7 yards beyond the LOS per completion. That is objectively awful.

The question is, who do we blame this on? The Oline? The coaches for the scheme and play calling, or Dak for not seeing the field or having bad accuracy down range? Or maybe the scheme is a reflection of Daks issues.

You tell me

Dink and Dak is back!!!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

add to that the awful play on the edges from the worst tackle duo in the nfl, and you've got 3 negatives on the line. THAT is what is limiting the play calling, if anything. If your QB can't get time you can't run deeper routes.

And a qb who can't run means no roll outs or extending regular routes.

 

[Wangchung83]

Ridiculous stat. It’s about playcalling, dink and dunk. That’s what they call for Prescott. They make him get the ball out fast. I’m not sticking up for him or anybody else but it’s ridiculous. Just like all the rest of them. The only statistic I care about playoff wins.

Oh but all you d done is stick up for him. Face it he sucks