Comics and Movies

[Runwildboys]

If we're going to talk about our preferences, as it regards comic book adaptations...well, honestly, I didn't read comics much, other than the ones I could see for free.

My comics experience is almost completely based off cartoons from the 70's, and my favorite was always Spider-Man. His wit and sarcasm entertained me to no end. That's why I like Tom Holland's portrayal best, by far.

Personally, I thought Tobey Maguire was an awful choice. Even when he was being sarcastic, it seemed forced. He was just too geeky.

Andrew Garfield was much better, except they made him a little too cocky as Peter Parker. He also doesn't really "look" the part to me.

Holland has a great blend of snark and angst. He seems a little small, but that helps sell the concept of youth. (Something Maguire never pulled off.)

 

[DallasEast]

If we're going to talk about our preferences, as it regards comic book adaptations...well, honestly, I didn't read comics much, other than the ones I could see for free.

My comics experience is almost completely based off cartoons from the 70's, and my favorite was always Spider-Man. His wit and sarcasm entertained me to no end. That's why I like Tom Holland's portrayal best, by far.

Personally, I thought Tobey Maguire was an awful choice. Even when he was being sarcastic, it seemed forced. He was just too geeky.

Andrew Garfield was much better, except they made him a little too cocky as Peter Parker. He also doesn't really "look" the part to me.

Holland has a great blend of snark and angst. He seems a little small, but that helps sell the concept of youth. (Something Maguire never pulled off.)

Our opinion pretty much match concerning the Spider-Man actors, especially Maguire. I am not sure if the character's stature has changed since I stopped collecting but Parker was usually drawn shorter in height to reinforce his youthful appearance. He was a teenager for a very long time.

Yeah. It is stupid but was an intentional look for him. The cartoons usually either drew him as tall as his partners though.

It's funny. I remember when Wolverine was first introduced. Logan was drawn standing just over five feet tall initially. He SHOT UP as time went by, and in short order, but it had nothing to do with his mutant healing factor, lol.

 

[DallasEast]

Crap. I should redo DC vs Marvel just so I can seed Batman vs Storm. There are CRAZY creators out there.

 

[nobody]

Crap. I should redo DC vs Marvel just so I can seed Batman vs Storm. There are CRAZY creators out there.

Of course, that all boils down to preparation and knowledge. If he goes into it knowing nothing of her, he's toast. If he can research her, she's toast.

 

[quickccc]

If we're going to talk about our preferences, as it regards comic book adaptations...well, honestly, I didn't read comics much, other than the ones I could see for free.

My comics experience is almost completely based off cartoons from the 70's, and my favorite was always Spider-Man. His wit and sarcasm entertained me to no end. That's why I like Tom Holland's portrayal best, by far.

Personally, I thought Tobey Maguire was an awful choice. Even when he was being sarcastic, it seemed forced. He was just too geeky.

Andrew Garfield was much better, except they made him a little too cocky as Peter Parker. He also doesn't really "look" the part to me.

Holland has a great blend of snark and angst. He seems a little small, but that helps sell the concept of youth. (Something Maguire never pulled off.)

Peter Parker is supposed to be geeky. He was epitome of " book worm " nerdy.

Thus i thought Tobey McGuire is more far more suited for Peter Parker than Garfield, imo.

- Holland also has the mold for Parker as well. The head shape, ears, the dorky, nerdy look. I thought after the Garfield debacle, Holland successfully regained the Parker look and persona

- I assume Studio went with Garfield for a certain Peter Parker era/look, but it didn't help matters that Garfield was part of that hideous Amazing Spiderman series - that included
fizzled Lizard and a CGI nightmare called Electro ... i didn't/never got patented Peter parker vibe and impression from GArfield's Peter Parker version.

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[nobody]

Peter Parker is supposed to be geeky. He was epitome of " book worm " nerdy.

Thus i thought Tobey McGuire is more far more suited for Peter Parker than Garfield, imo.

- Holland also has the mold for Parker as well. The head shape, ears, the dorky, nerdy look. I thought after the Garfield debacle, Holland successfully regained the Parker look and persona

- I assume Studio went with Garfield for a certain Peter Parker era/look, but it didn't help matters that Garfield was part of that hideous Amazing Spiderman series - that included
fizzled Lizard and a CGI nightmare called Electro ... i didn't/never got patented Peter parker vibe and impression from GArfield's Peter Parker version.

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I thought that Garfield nailed the character in costume with the quips. But he was too "cool" as Peter. He could have been a college or post-college era Peter though. Having him act more nerdy and wear glasses in the beginning would have helped, but he didn't really meet Gwen until college if I recall? I think they were just trying to distance themselves a bit from the first movies. It was a mistake caused by Sony execs. Holland is by far the best. McGuire was a good Peter, but not a good Spider-Man (the opposite of Garfield) Some of that could have been the writing and directing they both had. Holland got the benefit of Marvel direction. But I know both Garfield and Holland were huge Spider-Man fans before they got the parts. I don't know about McGuire.

 

[Aikmaniac]

Question about Bucky Barnes...

I've noticed that since his coming out party in the Winter Soldier movie, his strengths/bad ***-ery seem to have gone down a notch. Is this due to him being "Free" of the brainwashing and his unwillingness to go to that dark place again?

Didn't know if this is/was his true comic book arc or if it's how he's been written.

Really enjoy the character and looking forward to seeing him again in *Thunderbolts.

 

[DallasEast]

Question about Bucky Barnes...

I've noticed that since his coming out party in the Winter Soldier movie, his strengths/bad ***-ery seem to have gone down a notch. Is this due to him being "Free" of the brainwashing and his unwillingness to go to that dark place again?

Didn't know if this is/was his true comic book arc or if it's how he's been written.

Really enjoy the character and looking forward to seeing him again in *Thunderbolts.

I was hoping others would weigh in first since I know more about Bucky Barnes the sidekick in the comics than his character evolution into the Winter Soldier.

Personally, I think his dark hard edge was totally influenced by his brainwashing. We get to see Bucky beforehand in Captain America: The First Avenger. He was nothing like the guy he was unwillingly converted into.

Afterwards, the character has been shown slowly coming to grips with what he was turned into--while trying to apply his capabilities in a way the original Bucky would have done. For this reason, I doubt the MCU will ever frame him as a true anti-hero like The Punisher (per the Netflix series), Deadpool or even like Clint Barton dark dive as Ronin.

Instead, the audience will get a poorer version of Captain America. Someone who will strive to do the right thing but in shadier circumstances. What I have learned of the character in the comics somewhat supports that idea.

 

[nobody]

I was hoping others would weigh in first since I know more about Bucky Barnes the sidekick in the comics than his character evolution into the Winter Soldier.

Personally, I think his dark hard edge was totally influenced by his brainwashing. We get to see Bucky beforehand in Captain America: The First Avenger. He was nothing like the guy he was unwillingly converted into.

Afterwards, the character has been shown slowly coming to grips with what he was turned into--while trying to apply his capabilities in a way the original Bucky would have done. For this reason, I doubt the MCU will ever frame him as a true anti-hero like The Punisher (per the Netflix series), Deadpool or even like Clint Barton dark dive as Ronin.

Instead, the audience will get a poorer version of Captain America. Someone who will strive to do the right thing but in shadier circumstances. What I have learned of the character in the comics somewhat supports that idea.

In the comics, as Bucky, he was far more cynical than Cap in WW2. I had just read about that the other day. So yeah, we have a more cynical, shadier Captain America in Bucky Barnes. (At least in comics).

 

[DallasEast]

Just in case anyone cares... ALL episodes have been officially dubbed in English now...

My work here is done (runs off while giggling like a maniac).

 

[The Ominous]

 

[DallasEast]

Just watched it on TikTok.

OH @quickccc!!! Better check out the newest trailer.

 

[John813]

Still not sure how I feel about it.

Can't say I'm going to rush out and see it in theaters.

 

[quickccc]

Just watched it on TikTok.

OH @quickccc!!! Better check out the newest trailer.

new trailer looks sweet... i'm still trying to get used to a new, female Silver Surfer ..it's like i'm watching Nova herald instead of a Norman Radd -Silver Surfer
that's still throwing me off. I wonder why they decided to change it up ...

Please let it be a " real" Galactus , instead of a cosmic cloud or shadow !

 

[DallasEast]

Please let it be a " real" Galactus , instead of a cosmic cloud or shadow !

LOL!

My friend, the trailer is 2:43 minutes long. You MUST have stopped watching when the screen went black at the 2:33 mark.

My advice is watching the final 10 seconds.

 

[Runwildboys]

LOL!

My friend, the trailer is 2:43 minutes long. You MUST have stopped watching when the screen went black at the 2:33 mark.

My advice is watching the final 10 seconds.

I was actually wondering if that shadow was big enough, but it's close enough for me.

 

[Runwildboys]

new trailer looks sweet... i'm still trying to get used to a new, female Silver Surfer ..it's like i'm watching Nova herald instead of a Norman Radd -Silver Surfer
that's still throwing me off. I wonder why they decided to change it up ...

Please let it be a " real" Galactus , instead of a cosmic cloud or shadow !

I'm guessing they just wanted to change it up from the other F4, so they changed the gender...Sure, why not?

 

[DallasEast]

I'm guessing they just wanted to change it up from the other F4, so they changed the gender...Sure, why not?

There is no guessing necessary. The obvious intent is to change up things, which I am sure will bring MUCH discussion among a portion of the film's audience.

The rationalization has already been established. Marvel/Disney's multiverse storyline began in 2021 with Phase Four's Wandavision and will continue in movies and television series through at least 2027.

The most commonly known Silver Surfer version is Norrid Radd. There have been lesser known Galactus heralds both in and outside the Earth-616 universe, which has made up the bulk of all movies and tv shows since Iron Man in 2008.

Heck. Aunt May temporarily served as a herald in another multiverse. Marvel creators have always had a huge imagination.

My only hope is for this film to be the first FF movie to get it *right* as I see it. I am disappointed Radd will likely not be in this one but will not mind if the Surfer is presented properly.

 

[quickccc]

There is no guessing necessary. The obvious intent is to change up things, which I am sure will bring MUCH discussion among a portion of the film's audience.

The rationalization has already been established. Marvel/Disney's multiverse storyline began in 2021 with Phase Four's Wandavision and will continue in movies and television series through at least 2027.

The most commonly known Silver Surfer version is Norrid Radd. There have been lesser known Galactus heralds both in and outside the Earth-616 universe, which has made up the bulk of all movies and tv shows since Iron Man in 2008.

Heck. Aunt May temporarily served as a herald in another multiverse. Marvel creators have always had a huge imagination.

My only hope is for this film to be the first FF movie to get it *right* as I see it. I am disappointed Radd will likely not be in this one but will not mind if the Surfer is presented properly.

if this FF movie strikes it rich and " Finally" gets it right , then it will likely lead to a spin off movie and spin off character, thus we won't likely see Norman Radd (funny how he had to have a first and last name like those of Earth, rather than simply " Radd " on his own planet) comic version as we know it per vintage Marvel ...

But hey, we're already seeing a female Black Panther,.. maybe a future female Wolverine .. so it is inevitable to see a change up solo female Silver Surfer ?
And ah, i do have my skeptics if female comic superhero movies are successful - most are not tend to records show.

 

[DallasEast]

if this FF movie strikes it rich and " Finally" gets it right , then it will likely lead to a spin off movie and spin off character, thus we won't likely see Norman Radd (funny how he had to have a first and last name like those of Earth, rather than simply " Radd " on his own planet) comic version as we know it per vintage Marvel ...

But hey, we're already seeing a female Black Panther,.. maybe a future female Wolverine .. so it is inevitable to see a change up solo female Silver Surfer ?
And ah, i do have my skeptics if female comic superhero movies are successful - most are not tend to records show.

Bold> Just a few thoughts of my own, although I likely know less of Disney/Marvel's intentions than anyone else.

I doubt there will be another solo original female film in the MCU in the future. Perhaps circumstances would be different if idiots had not dragged their feet pushing out Black Widow. Maybe then the studio would have build more self-confidence in backing them.

Instead, they hit the jackpot with Captain Marvel, did not break $400 million worldwide with BW, hedged their bets with The Marvels CM sequel by giving (basically) equal billing to Ms. Marvel (movie title makes sense) and Spectrum (movie title does not make sense for the whole audience except hardcore comics nerds like me). That sequel squeaked over $200 million worldwide.

The books inspire all plotline materials. Like Linda Danvers as Captain Marvel, Shuri as Black Panther was Marvel Comics' canon before their onscreen appearances. Unlike Linda, Shuri's debut was an alternative introduction fully motivated by Chadwick Boseman's death. I doubt there were any production planning for Letitia Wright solo-ing before Boseman passed away. I foresee Wright getting top co-billing with Denzel Washington in the third movie. I respect Wright but I have little doubt Ryan Coogler and Disney have total faith in her carrying another BP movie, when she did not knock-it-out-the-park during her first opportunity.

I highly doubt there will ever be a solo movie or television show featuring a female Wolverine. That said, I would positively love Dafne Keen reprising Laura in any project, solo or otherwise, as Wolverine--or even carrying on simply as X-23. Keen was perfect casting as a kid in my opinion. She had the character's look and temperament. She is fully grown now, which would make her even more believable playing the character.

In the past, I think I have mentioned The Surfer's power cosmic nature will probably be too much for Disney to invest in. In the 100+ movies and various television series episodes, I can only think of four (before Fantastic Four: First Steps) that were primarily on the power cosmic level:

• Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2 (Ego)
• Avengers: Infinity War & Avengers: Endgame (Thanos)
• Eternals (The Celestials)

Can Disney pull off a colo Silver Surfer project? They sure can. Will they? I just do not see it myself but will cross my fingers anyway.