Comics and Movies

[Runwildboys]

If we're going to talk about our preferences, as it regards comic book adaptations...well, honestly, I didn't read comics much, other than the ones I could see for free.

My comics experience is almost completely based off cartoons from the 70's, and my favorite was always Spider-Man. His wit and sarcasm entertained me to no end. That's why I like Tom Holland's portrayal best, by far.

Personally, I thought Tobey Maguire was an awful choice. Even when he was being sarcastic, it seemed forced. He was just too geeky.

Andrew Garfield was much better, except they made him a little too cocky as Peter Parker. He also doesn't really "look" the part to me.

Holland has a great blend of snark and angst. He seems a little small, but that helps sell the concept of youth. (Something Maguire never pulled off.)

 

[DallasEast]

If we're going to talk about our preferences, as it regards comic book adaptations...well, honestly, I didn't read comics much, other than the ones I could see for free.

My comics experience is almost completely based off cartoons from the 70's, and my favorite was always Spider-Man. His wit and sarcasm entertained me to no end. That's why I like Tom Holland's portrayal best, by far.

Personally, I thought Tobey Maguire was an awful choice. Even when he was being sarcastic, it seemed forced. He was just too geeky.

Andrew Garfield was much better, except they made him a little too cocky as Peter Parker. He also doesn't really "look" the part to me.

Holland has a great blend of snark and angst. He seems a little small, but that helps sell the concept of youth. (Something Maguire never pulled off.)

Our opinion pretty much match concerning the Spider-Man actors, especially Maguire. I am not sure if the character's stature has changed since I stopped collecting but Parker was usually drawn shorter in height to reinforce his youthful appearance. He was a teenager for a very long time.

Yeah. It is stupid but was an intentional look for him. The cartoons usually either drew him as tall as his partners though.

It's funny. I remember when Wolverine was first introduced. Logan was drawn standing just over five feet tall initially. He SHOT UP as time went by, and in short order, but it had nothing to do with his mutant healing factor, lol.

 

[DallasEast]

Crap. I should redo DC vs Marvel just so I can seed Batman vs Storm. There are CRAZY creators out there.

 

[nobody]

Crap. I should redo DC vs Marvel just so I can seed Batman vs Storm. There are CRAZY creators out there.

Of course, that all boils down to preparation and knowledge. If he goes into it knowing nothing of her, he's toast. If he can research her, she's toast.

 

[quickccc]

If we're going to talk about our preferences, as it regards comic book adaptations...well, honestly, I didn't read comics much, other than the ones I could see for free.

My comics experience is almost completely based off cartoons from the 70's, and my favorite was always Spider-Man. His wit and sarcasm entertained me to no end. That's why I like Tom Holland's portrayal best, by far.

Personally, I thought Tobey Maguire was an awful choice. Even when he was being sarcastic, it seemed forced. He was just too geeky.

Andrew Garfield was much better, except they made him a little too cocky as Peter Parker. He also doesn't really "look" the part to me.

Holland has a great blend of snark and angst. He seems a little small, but that helps sell the concept of youth. (Something Maguire never pulled off.)

Peter Parker is supposed to be geeky. He was epitome of " book worm " nerdy.

Thus i thought Tobey McGuire is more far more suited for Peter Parker than Garfield, imo.

- Holland also has the mold for Parker as well. The head shape, ears, the dorky, nerdy look. I thought after the Garfield debacle, Holland successfully regained the Parker look and persona

- I assume Studio went with Garfield for a certain Peter Parker era/look, but it didn't help matters that Garfield was part of that hideous Amazing Spiderman series - that included
fizzled Lizard and a CGI nightmare called Electro ... i didn't/never got patented Peter parker vibe and impression from GArfield's Peter Parker version.

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[nobody]

Peter Parker is supposed to be geeky. He was epitome of " book worm " nerdy.

Thus i thought Tobey McGuire is more far more suited for Peter Parker than Garfield, imo.

- Holland also has the mold for Parker as well. The head shape, ears, the dorky, nerdy look. I thought after the Garfield debacle, Holland successfully regained the Parker look and persona

- I assume Studio went with Garfield for a certain Peter Parker era/look, but it didn't help matters that Garfield was part of that hideous Amazing Spiderman series - that included
fizzled Lizard and a CGI nightmare called Electro ... i didn't/never got patented Peter parker vibe and impression from GArfield's Peter Parker version.

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I thought that Garfield nailed the character in costume with the quips. But he was too "cool" as Peter. He could have been a college or post-college era Peter though. Having him act more nerdy and wear glasses in the beginning would have helped, but he didn't really meet Gwen until college if I recall? I think they were just trying to distance themselves a bit from the first movies. It was a mistake caused by Sony execs. Holland is by far the best. McGuire was a good Peter, but not a good Spider-Man (the opposite of Garfield) Some of that could have been the writing and directing they both had. Holland got the benefit of Marvel direction. But I know both Garfield and Holland were huge Spider-Man fans before they got the parts. I don't know about McGuire.

 

[Aikmaniac]

Question about Bucky Barnes...

I've noticed that since his coming out party in the Winter Soldier movie, his strengths/bad ***-ery seem to have gone down a notch. Is this due to him being "Free" of the brainwashing and his unwillingness to go to that dark place again?

Didn't know if this is/was his true comic book arc or if it's how he's been written.

Really enjoy the character and looking forward to seeing him again in *Thunderbolts.

 

[DallasEast]

Question about Bucky Barnes...

I've noticed that since his coming out party in the Winter Soldier movie, his strengths/bad ***-ery seem to have gone down a notch. Is this due to him being "Free" of the brainwashing and his unwillingness to go to that dark place again?

Didn't know if this is/was his true comic book arc or if it's how he's been written.

Really enjoy the character and looking forward to seeing him again in *Thunderbolts.

I was hoping others would weigh in first since I know more about Bucky Barnes the sidekick in the comics than his character evolution into the Winter Soldier.

Personally, I think his dark hard edge was totally influenced by his brainwashing. We get to see Bucky beforehand in Captain America: The First Avenger. He was nothing like the guy he was unwillingly converted into.

Afterwards, the character has been shown slowly coming to grips with what he was turned into--while trying to apply his capabilities in a way the original Bucky would have done. For this reason, I doubt the MCU will ever frame him as a true anti-hero like The Punisher (per the Netflix series), Deadpool or even like Clint Barton dark dive as Ronin.

Instead, the audience will get a poorer version of Captain America. Someone who will strive to do the right thing but in shadier circumstances. What I have learned of the character in the comics somewhat supports that idea.

 

[nobody]

I was hoping others would weigh in first since I know more about Bucky Barnes the sidekick in the comics than his character evolution into the Winter Soldier.

Personally, I think his dark hard edge was totally influenced by his brainwashing. We get to see Bucky beforehand in Captain America: The First Avenger. He was nothing like the guy he was unwillingly converted into.

Afterwards, the character has been shown slowly coming to grips with what he was turned into--while trying to apply his capabilities in a way the original Bucky would have done. For this reason, I doubt the MCU will ever frame him as a true anti-hero like The Punisher (per the Netflix series), Deadpool or even like Clint Barton dark dive as Ronin.

Instead, the audience will get a poorer version of Captain America. Someone who will strive to do the right thing but in shadier circumstances. What I have learned of the character in the comics somewhat supports that idea.

In the comics, as Bucky, he was far more cynical than Cap in WW2. I had just read about that the other day. So yeah, we have a more cynical, shadier Captain America in Bucky Barnes. (At least in comics).

 

[DallasEast]

Just in case anyone cares... ALL episodes have been officially dubbed in English now...

My work here is done (runs off while giggling like a maniac).