News: Proposal to ban tush push FAILS by two votes, sources say

[TheMarathonContinues]

One clown on one team. Ban him.

Sure.

 

[kskboys]

Don't care.

In general, it takes several people getting injured to change any type of rule/law. Just wait til the DLine starts popping the OLers on the knees, then they pro-tunes will change. Abruptly and quickly.

 

[jazzcat22]

In 2005 when the owners voted on changing the existing rule that disallowed pushing the ball carrier to allowing it, Jerry Jones voted for the change. Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie voted against changing the rule. Another reason for Eagles fans to cheer Jerry when he comes to Philly for games.

Are you cheering with them.

 

[mattjames2010]

I'm against ANY form of teammates intentionally pushing the ball carrier for extra yards. We have blocking and schemes for a reason. It should be up to the ball carrier to get those yards when fighting for them.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I'm against ANY form of teammates intentionally pushing the ball carrier for extra yards. We have blocking and schemes for a reason. It should be up to the ball carrier to get those yards when fighting for them.

Owners can change any rule, with 75% agreeing to it, when the spirit moves them. In 2005 enough voted to change the rule and allow assisting the ball carrier by pushing him. Now some are trying to change it back. They should have never changed it in the first place. While Jerry agreed the ball carrier should be able to be pushed by teammates, he voted against the ban on “horse-collar” tackles. He was in a 27 to 5 minority on that proposal.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Let's see how real this League really is.

This play, if all is real, should have huge effects on the viewing pleasure of the game.

Less suspense is a big factor.

But OCs, if this is real, should be able to exploit the defense with fakes off this formation.

If the defense is forced to protect against a chunk yardage play, this play becomes a shoe in for a first down on short yardage downs.

Should have huge effects on the game with less punting and longer drives for offenses.

Personally think the play stretches defenses to thin, they can't commit to stopping the tush-push because they have to protect the whole field.

Let's see how this plays out.

Probably why the Eagles are in so few primetime games.

 

[Gambit]

so you would be happy with two linemen picking up the RB and throwing him over the top of the pile?
Think on that; its just a step down the same road as the tush push

Now I see why we drafted Booker and Keep Deuce

 

[CCBoy]

Posting the animated gif below before the claim Philadelphia created anything is repeated. The tush push is a rugby scrum modified for use in the NFL. Essentially, it is a cheat code that the owners collectively have not yet fully endorsed as legally official.

Rugby technique miss placed...how about a soccer goal too?

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

I'm against ANY form of teammates intentionally pushing the ball carrier for extra yards. We have blocking and schemes for a reason. It should be up to the ball carrier to get those yards when fighting for them.

Then why weren't you screaming to ban that all these years it's been happening, and only now mentioning it when The Push got so affected?

Coincidence?

I never heard ANYONE whining about OLers pushing a stalled WR or RB down the field before this.

 

[Vtwin]

Some people like today's game. The athletes of today are different then in the 20's.

Yea, bro.

Nothing screams modern football like the tush push. lol

They would have never thought of that in Captain Comeback's day.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm against ANY form of teammates intentionally pushing the ball carrier for extra yards. We have blocking and schemes for a reason. It should be up to the ball carrier to get those yards when fighting for them.

Exactly.

What's weird is, many here seem to be for the Tush Push almost because they don't want to seem jealous of a rival, or something. But I'd hate this play just as much if it were Buffalo or some other non-rival doing it. It's an ugly play and it's going to get people hurt. It wasn't legal for all those years for a reason, and it shouldn't be now.

 

[Creeper]

What's interesting is the NFL's competition and health and safety committees voted to ban the Tush Push. How do you keep a play after your own Healthy and Safety Committee recommends banning it?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yea, bro.

Nothing screams modern football like the tush push. lol

They would have never thought of that in Captain Comeback's day.

I don’t know I wasn’t around then.

 

[FanofJerry]

Then why weren't you screaming to ban that all these years it's been happening, and only now mentioning it when The Push got so affected?

Coincidence?

I never heard ANYONE whining about OLers pushing a stalled WR or RB down the field before this.

I agree with your post, it's a double standard.

I will chime in with this...the OL pushing the ball carrier forward downfield does not have the implications the tush push formation can have on the game.

The OL thing happens semi-frequently too.

But the tush push is going to exploit defenses to the point short yardage plays and goal line plays are shoe ins.

Less punts, longer offensive drives. It's gonna turn the game into 2 downs to get 8 or 9 yards...and then a shoe in play(tush push) for the first down.

The OL deal doesn't have near the same implications on the game.

 

[kramskoi]

Geez. I had hoped this nonsense would eventually be banned by the league...especially in the case of Philadelphia.

 

[Vtwin]

I don’t know I wasn’t around then.

So.... Having no experience and hence no clue doesn't stop you from making conclusive statements on the very thing you have no experience with and no clue about.

Sounds about right.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

I agree with your post, it's a double standard.

I will chime in with this...the OL pushing the ball carrier forward downfield does not have the implications the tush push formation can have on the game.

The OL thing happens semi-frequently too.

But the tush push is going to exploit defenses to the point short yardage plays and goal line plays are shoe ins.

Less punts, longer offensive drives. It's gonna turn the game into 2 downs to get 8 or 9 yards...and then a shoe in play(tush push) for the first down.

The OL deal doesn't have near the same implications on the game.

That seems like a dangerous president to set to determine if something should be allowed or not. If one team separates itself in an already-allowed play, then ban it?

I think everyone just needs to admit the truth: nobody cared about offensive players pushing other offensive players, FOR DECADES....until 1 team started doing it better than every other team. That's when owners, fans, etc began making up logic to ban it...even though they didn't say anything about it before.

In fact....Jerry is the only one that ALMOST told the truth, when he wondered aloud "Do I just want to ban this because Philly is good at it?"

 

[Spottswoode]

I think everyone just needs to admit the truth: nobody cared about offensive players pushing other offensive players, FOR DECADES....until 1 team started doing it better than every other team. That's when owners, fans, etc began making up logic to ban it...even though they didn't say anything about it before.

I agree with your overall point and agree that people have overlooked pushing before.

The only thing I would add is that any time you have rules like these, people will always try to test the boundaries. And at some point the question becomes when do you jump the shark, and adjustments become necessary. Not just for QB sneaks but scrums as well. IMO, that is where we are at now.

 

[FanofJerry]

That seems like a dangerous president to set to determine if something should be allowed or not. If one team separates itself in an already-allowed play, then ban it?

I think everyone just needs to admit the truth: nobody cared about offensive players pushing other offensive players, FOR DECADES....until 1 team started doing it better than every other team. That's when owners, fans, etc began making up logic to ban it...even though they didn't say anything about it before.

In fact....Jerry is the only one that ALMOST told the truth, when he wondered aloud "Do I just want to ban this because Philly is good at it?"

Your side stepping my main point and trying to distract by talking about something else...

Main point is...tush push COULD HAVE(if this is real)some serious implications on the game.

I'd you don't care about that, and think sports is dun watching shoe in plays...that's fine...just say it.

I'm not into Monopolies when it comes to sports. I prefer parity.

In this sense...once this play is perfected by all teams...the defense can't defend it...a monopoly play for the offense

 

[DallasEast]

I think everyone just needs to admit the truth: nobody cared about offensive players pushing other offensive players, FOR DECADES....until 1 team started doing it better than every other team. That's when owners, fans, etc began making up logic to ban it...even though they didn't say anything about it before.

I think anyone would admit watching offensive players pushing other offensive players for decades--especially those individuals who were witnesses. I had been seeing that happen myself when it occasionally happened. And sometimes when it occasionally happened? Players did it in the heat of the moment.

The tush push is a designed play. It is performed deliberately. And often multiple times every game.

So, let's be transparently honest. There is a simple reason why there has never been an uproar, neither finite nor long-term, over offensive players pushing other offensive players during a CENTURY of the National Football League games until the past few years.