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acr731 said:
I won't watch and it is strictly because of Jerry. Aside from being a vomit inducing narcissist, the timing of his cancer announcement is very suspect. Why wait until a Netflix doc to make something like that public? Was it because he knew a larger audience would see it and everyone would be talking? The timing raises way too many questions.

If the doc was solely about the 90's team without Jerry being front and center I might watch it, but knowing that it's probably 95% Jerry I will pass. Screw Jerry.
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With you. I can’t stand listening to him. I avoid it whenever possible.

I remember everything about those teams. Dont need a refresher with Jerry’s spin on things.

If he had anything at all to do with building those teams I’d like to know why he hasn’t come remotely close since. The fact is that he didn’t and anyone who says he did is calling Johnson a complete liar, which I doubt is the case.

Jimmy has a huge ego as well, but not to where he would deny Jerry his credit if due. Jerry bought the team. Great. A lot of people have money. Not many can build an NFL dynasty.
 
CWR said:
The show is getting a lot of praise, but man I don't know if can tolerate listening to Jerry spout off anymore.

Ill probably break down a give it a shot, but expect I'll get angry and turn it off.
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Yeah, I'm with you. I saw the commercial, was like "yeah baby", then I saw Jerry's skeletor face and heard his voice and almost vomited... If Stephen's face ends up on the screen, I may toss my remote into the TV.. If I see Jason Garrett's face, no telling what I'm gonna do...

Ok I'm exaggerating, but not as much as Jerry does..
 
Can't watch a Cowboys documentary because of your disdain for Jerry, yet you're still watching HIS team every Sunday, invested in their success????

Help me make that make sense...as your eyeballs and attention on the Cowboys still make Jerry cents.

:facepalm:

And know that The Jones Family is not likely to sell this team in your lifetime so...you're going to loathe The Owner yet route for his jersey anyway.

:oops:

BTW, the documentary is EXCELLENT, and shares in-depth insight into why you (yes YOU!) even have such love for the Cowboys, yet hate the owner so much. I, myself, am learning new things...about Aikman, Emmett, coaches, Jimmy, and myself.
 
I thought the series was very well done and I really enjoyed it.

I do wish they included more former players, like the Moose!

Everyone will always have their own opinions, but i think Jerry and Jimmy both share equal blame.

At the end if the day, neither was very successful on the field without the other.
 
Gameover said:
he's making off those team that just went 12-5 three times over

in fact, JJ has more 13 wins teams the past 18 years, than the entire history of the franchise.

make a play
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Yea, let me know when they do the documentary on those 3 awesome 12-5 seasons that yielded only one wild card playoff win. 13 wins and zero playoff wins from those seasons, winning!

How about you reframe this, Jerrah had talent that was close and instead of doing what it takes to push the team over, he kept average coaches too long, didn't go after anyone of significance in free agency or trades. The culture has been rotten but yea those 2 years of 13 win seasons is something that the city of Dallas should throw a parade for and put a statue of Jerrah up.
 
I lived it in real time and can't get my head around how far this franchise has fallen the past 30 years.
 
JonesBoys said:
Yea, let me know when they do the documentary on those 3 awesome 12-5 seasons that yielded only one wild card playoff win. 13 wins and zero playoff wins from those seasons, winning!

How about you reframe this, Jerrah had talent that was close and instead of doing what it takes to push the team over, he kept average coaches too long, didn't go after anyone of significance in free agency or trades. The culture has been rotten but yea those 2 years of 13 win seasons is something that the city of Dallas should throw a parade for and put a statue of Jerrah up.
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make a play!
 
CowboyFrog said:
Come on now name one GM who would still be employed with This GM's playoff success... none, you know it, everyone knows it...hell Jerry has said it himself and then said "Its my toy ill do what i want with it!"
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Most teams don't blame the GM after every loss. That weird foolishness only happens with the Cowboys. Its become a sport in of itself

JJ team has two last place finishes since 2002
JJ team won 186 games for 8th best over a 20 season stretch
JJ team won 7 division titles over a 20 season stretch and made 9 playoff appearances and the division went thru his team 70-75 percent of those years
JJ team twice had the #1 seed in his conference twice
JJ drafted 35 pro bowl players since 2003
JJ drafted many All Pro players during that stretch
JJ drafted three R.O.Y players(Zeke deserved a share)

Take away the perception of JJ and you would see that JJ has actually been a top 10 GM if not 5-7 over a 20 season stretch. JJ downfall has been in his hiring of coaches(Wade, Garrett) and the filling out of those staffs(Garrett OC, Ryan, Kiffin) which I believe prevented the Cowboys from having more success from 2006-2013. Criminal how much talent those teams had with nothing to show for it. But the great Jerry West had the most talented team in basketball from 1996-1998 and he left championships on the table because the head coaching decision he stuck with(Del Harris)

Would he get fired? Depends on the fanbase. They would build a statue of him in Detroit with his resume the past 20 seasons

The Cowboys fanbase is spoiled and entitled and the media is hellbent on playing gotcha. Their entire objected is to spread negativity.

So we're stuck in this whinny abyss of misery
 
Since I'd read all the dirt over the years in book after book, there was nothing really new here--but it's wonderfully put together. Could be the thing that finally makes Switzer less of a punch line, if enough people watch it.
 
Gameover said:
Most teams don't blame the GM after every loss. That weird foolishness only happens with the Cowboys. Its become a sport in of itself

JJ team has two last place finishes since 2002
JJ team won 186 games for 8th best over a 20 season stretch
JJ team won 7 division titles over a 20 season stretch and made 9 playoff appearances and the division went thru his team 70-75 percent of those years
JJ team twice had the #1 seed in his conference twice
JJ drafted 35 pro bowl players since 2003
JJ drafted many All Pro players during that stretch
JJ drafted three R.O.Y players(Zeke deserved a share)

Take away the perception of JJ and you would see that JJ has actually been a top 10 GM if not 5-7 over a 20 season stretch. JJ downfall has been in his hiring of coaches(Wade, Garrett) and the filling out of those staffs(Garrett OC, Ryan, Kiffin) which I believe prevented the Cowboys from having more success from 2006-2013. Criminal how much talent those teams had with nothing to show for it. But the great Jerry West had the most talented team in basketball from 1996-1998 and he left championships on the table because the head coaching decision he stuck with(Del Harris)

Would he get fired? Depends on the fanbase. They would build a statue of him in Detroit with his resume the past 20 seasons

The Cowboys fanbase is spoiled and entitled and the media is hellbent on playing gotcha. Their entire objected is to spread negativity.

So we're stuck in this whinny abyss of misery
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Essentially JJ is Andy Reid before Andy Reid found his Patrick Mahomes

And even Andy Reid made mistakes. Reid gets praised for sitting Mahomes for a year. That was foolish. Mahomes should've been a day 1 starter. Likely cost them a championship. Like Tony Romo should've been the starter here in 2005.
 
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KMY_Amber said:
Can't watch a Cowboys documentary because of your disdain for Jerry, yet you're still watching HIS team every Sunday, invested in their success????

Help me make that make sense...as your eyeballs and attention on the Cowboys still make Jerry cents.

:facepalm:

And know that The Jones Family is not likely to sell this team in your lifetime so...you're going to loathe The Owner yet route for his jersey anyway.

:oops:

BTW, the documentary is EXCELLENT, and shares in-depth insight into why you (yes YOU!) even have such love for the Cowboys, yet hate the owner so much. I, myself, am learning new things...about Aikman, Emmett, coaches, Jimmy, and myself.
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oddest boycott in history
 
I'll watch it after I've finished watching Hitler's circle of evil.

Please insert Your own punchline.
 
Gameover said:
oddest boycott in history
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LOL

Absolutely

"I ain't watchin' the Cowboys documentary because I hate the owner and can't stand his face, but I'll spend 3 hours/week watching the owner in his box and supporting his prized possession for 17 weeks. And I'll spend hours in the forum talking about how much I hate the owner and his decisions all year round....an owner and his family likely not selling the team in our lifetime."

:flagwave:
 
Who cares? It's like an 80-year-old woman reliving the days in high school when all the guys were crazy about her. And she was the belle of the ball. She still at times have problems remembering those days. AS I do remembering the 90's Dallas Cowboys. I won't waste any of my brain cells or precious time on Earth left watching something I lived through and enjoyed so much. Knowing I will NEVER see it again. Thanks to the idiot that bought the team back then. Jerry Dufus Jones...
 
Snakebit franchise. Some bad football but also some bad luck. Sometimes it seems unfathomable even getting back to the NFCCG.
 
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