Some Iggles' Camp Stuff That Might Interest Cowboy Fans

[SymphonySteve]

I'm an Iggles fan, but I believe in sharing information.

Figured that not everybody would click the 'Ignore' button, and it's time I give back.

1. Don't look for key contributions from top draft picks Makai Lemon or Eli Stowers any time soon. Lemon missed both the spring practices and most of the current camp with an ouchy hammy. Regardless, I don't think they drafted him as a WR 2. Both he and TE Stowers (who's too light to block like a TE) are more chess pieces that can be effectively schemed by a creative OC. Jury's out on whether the Eagles have one.

2. Edge Jonathan Greenard has been similarly absent from practice. The Birds have decent depth at rush end, but, if they're gonna rack up huge sack #'s it's gonna have to be a team effort featuring the DT's, LB's and extended coverage by the CB's.

3. The Birds flat-out don't have a WR #2. They have several good WR 3's. But nobody who's gonna make a good D have to account for any of them.

4. Just don't know if Landon Dickerson is gonna make it through the year healthy. Been in and out of practice and considered retirement in the offseason. I honestly think the Tush Push took a toll on some of the OL's.

5. While Jihaad Campbell is a different type of player than Nakobe Dean, he looks poised to take Dean's spot and quite possibly outperform what Dean did last year.

6. The Birds almost certainly will trade either Tanner McKee or Andy Dalton before the season. They drafted a clipboard guy this year, and don't need both of them.

 

[Mikexike]

Thanks for the update from the Enemy front! Makai Lemon sounds like a headcase already.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

3. The Birds flat-out don't have a WR #2. They have several good WR 3's. But nobody who's gonna make a good D have to account for any of them.

Wanna guess how fast the teams will double Smith and make Hurts beat them?

 

[Mikexike]

Wanna guess how fast the teams will double Smith and make Hurts beat them?

its going to be a long season for them.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Thanks for the update from the Enemy front! Makai Lemon sounds like a headcase already.

I have only seen one interview with lemon and from it I was very glad that he did not end up a Cowboy.

 

[Praxit]

...thank man, interesting tidbits. Enjoy your stay. .

 

[gimmesix]

I'm an Iggles fan, but I believe in sharing information.

Figured that not everybody would click the 'Ignore' button, and it's time I give back.

1. Don't look for key contributions from top draft picks Makai Lemon or Eli Stowers any time soon. Lemon missed both the spring practices and most of the current camp with an ouchy hammy. Regardless, I don't think they drafted him as a WR 2. Both he and TE Stowers (who's too light to block like a TE) are more chess pieces that can be effectively schemed by a creative OC. Jury's out on whether the Eagles have one.

2. Edge Jonathan Greenard has been similarly absent from practice. The Birds have decent depth at rush end, but, if they're gonna rack up huge sack #'s it's gonna have to be a team effort featuring the DT's, LB's and extended coverage by the CB's.

3. The Birds flat-out don't have a WR #2. They have several good WR 3's. But nobody who's gonna make a good D have to account for any of them.

4. Just don't know if Landon Dickerson is gonna make it through the year healthy. Been in and out of practice and considered retirement in the offseason. I honestly think the Tush Push took a toll on some of the OL's.

5. While Jihaad Campbell is a different type of player than Nakobe Dean, he looks poised to take Dean's spot and quite possibly outperform what Dean did last year.

6. The Birds almost certainly will trade either Tanner McKee or Andy Dalton before the season. They drafted a clipboard guy this year, and don't need both of them.

Right now, your offseason moves (particularly trading Brown) aren't looking that great, but that can change in a hurry. No. 2 receiver was going to be a concern even if Lemon was healthy. It's asking a lot for a rookie to replace an All-Pro, even if Brown slipped some last year.

 

[SymphonySteve]

Right now, your offseason moves (particularly trading Brown) aren't looking that great, but that can change in a hurry. No. 2 receiver was going to be a concern even if Lemon was healthy. It's asking a lot for a rookie to replace an All-Pro, even if Brown slipped some last year.

Don't think they looked at Lemon as a WR 2. Keep in mind that this was viewed as a weak draft. They looked at him as a gadget guy who can create plays from a variety of formations. But guys like that need a lot more time, IMO, to (a) learn those different roles, and (b) develop a rapport with the QB.

 

[JBS]

How are the eagles feeling about their new offensive scheme so far?

 

[JBS]

Don't think they looked at Lemon as a WR 2. Keep in mind that this was viewed as a weak draft. They looked at him as a gadget guy who can create plays from a variety of formations. But guys like that need a lot more time, IMO, to (a) learn those different roles, and (b) develop a rapport with the QB.

So who did they think was going to be wr2 then? Bc they have nobody else

 

[SymphonySteve]

How are the eagles feeling about their new offensive scheme so far?

Well, they're saying the right things. As if they wouldn't. Definitely more of a Shanahan-type system with more pre-snap movement. They're also trying to speed things up as I think they were last in the league in terms of getting to the line of scrimmage in 2025. But they're also replacing a legendary OL coach. It's a new blocking scheme designed to take advantage of the QB starting from under center. They clearly plan to use Tank Bigsby more.

With all those changes, I gotta feel that they'll start off the year sloppy.

I also think that, since Sirianni is more associated with the offense, he really IS on the hot seat this year.

 

[SymphonySteve]

So who did they think was going to be wr2 then? Bc they have nobody else

They did sign some guys who can be good #3's, like Dontayvion Wicks and Hollywood Brown. They like an undrafted rookie from last year named Jonathan Cooper, who played well in limited time.

They envision Lemon as a different kind of weapon. He's quick with his cuts, doesn't have blazing speed, but supposedly has great hands.

Like I said, a different kind of passing attack. Ditto goes for how they eventually hope to deploy Stowers. For now, I think they're again relying (too much) on Dallas Goedert, apparently unaware of the Law Of Diminishing (With Age) Returns.

I don't see the bottom dropping out, not with a Top 5 defense. But I don't see them as a Super Bowl contender either.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I would expect the Eagles to sign Becton soon if Dickerson is already showing signs of breaking down.

 

[Denim Chicken]

3. The Birds flat-out don't have a WR #2. They have several good WR 3's. But nobody who's gonna make a good D have to account for any of them

I dont think they have a #1

 

[Coogiguy03]

I'm an Iggles fan, but I believe in sharing information.

Figured that not everybody would click the 'Ignore' button, and it's time I give back.

1. Don't look for key contributions from top draft picks Makai Lemon or Eli Stowers any time soon. Lemon missed both the spring practices and most of the current camp with an ouchy hammy. Regardless, I don't think they drafted him as a WR 2. Both he and TE Stowers (who's too light to block like a TE) are more chess pieces that can be effectively schemed by a creative OC. Jury's out on whether the Eagles have one.

2. Edge Jonathan Greenard has been similarly absent from practice. The Birds have decent depth at rush end, but, if they're gonna rack up huge sack #'s it's gonna have to be a team effort featuring the DT's, LB's and extended coverage by the CB's.

3. The Birds flat-out don't have a WR #2. They have several good WR 3's. But nobody who's gonna make a good D have to account for any of them.

4. Just don't know if Landon Dickerson is gonna make it through the year healthy. Been in and out of practice and considered retirement in the offseason. I honestly think the Tush Push took a toll on some of the OL's.

5. While Jihaad Campbell is a different type of player than Nakobe Dean, he looks poised to take Dean's spot and quite possibly outperform what Dean did last year.

6. The Birds almost certainly will trade either Tanner McKee or Andy Dalton before the season. They drafted a clipboard guy this year, and don't need both of them.

You're not the only iggles fan on here trust that

 

[ElGatoGrande]

They did sign some guys who can be good #3's, like Dontayvion Wicks and Hollywood Brown. They like an undrafted rookie from last year named Jonathan Cooper, who played well in limited time.

They envision Lemon as a different kind of weapon. He's quick with his cuts, doesn't have blazing speed, but supposedly has great hands.

Like I said, a different kind of passing attack. Ditto goes for how they eventually hope to deploy Stowers. For now, I think they're again relying (too much) on Dallas Goedert, apparently unaware of the Law Of Diminishing (With Age) Returns.

I don't see the bottom dropping out, not with a Top 5 defense. But I don't see them as a Super Bowl contender either.

Always been a fan of Hollywood since his OU days, he can take those short passes to the house.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Thanks for the update from the Enemy front! Makai Lemon sounds like a headcase already.

Lemon's post-draft interviews were beyond weird. He still has time to grow up but I can't believe teams met with this guy at the combine and said "we want this guy in our locker room".

 

[gimmesix]

Don't think they looked at Lemon as a WR 2. Keep in mind that this was viewed as a weak draft. They looked at him as a gadget guy who can create plays from a variety of formations. But guys like that need a lot more time, IMO, to (a) learn those different roles, and (b) develop a rapport with the QB.

Maybe not, but you drafted him and then traded Brown, so obviously your team is hoping he'll be the guy who can replace Brown. I mean, if Howie was counting on Hollywood Brown, Elijah Moore or Dontavyion Wicks to be that guy that doesn't seem like typical Roseman. Brown did have 49 catches for the Chiefs last year, but for less than 600 yards while A.J. had 78 for 1,003.

 

[speedkilz88]

I'm an Iggles fan, but I believe in sharing information.

Figured that not everybody would click the 'Ignore' button, and it's time I give back.

1. Don't look for key contributions from top draft picks Makai Lemon or Eli Stowers any time soon. Lemon missed both the spring practices and most of the current camp with an ouchy hammy. Regardless, I don't think they drafted him as a WR 2. Both he and TE Stowers (who's too light to block like a TE) are more chess pieces that can be effectively schemed by a creative OC. Jury's out on whether the Eagles have one.

2. Edge Jonathan Greenard has been similarly absent from practice. The Birds have decent depth at rush end, but, if they're gonna rack up huge sack #'s it's gonna have to be a team effort featuring the DT's, LB's and extended coverage by the CB's.

3. The Birds flat-out don't have a WR #2. They have several good WR 3's. But nobody who's gonna make a good D have to account for any of them.

4. Just don't know if Landon Dickerson is gonna make it through the year healthy. Been in and out of practice and considered retirement in the offseason. I honestly think the Tush Push took a toll on some of the OL's.

5. While Jihaad Campbell is a different type of player than Nakobe Dean, he looks poised to take Dean's spot and quite possibly outperform what Dean did last year.

6. The Birds almost certainly will trade either Tanner McKee or Andy Dalton before the season. They drafted a clipboard guy this year, and don't need both of them.

How dare you diss DeVonta Smith like that. He is without a doubt a #2. .........They traded away their #1.

 

[SymphonySteve]

Maybe not, but you drafted him and then traded Brown, so obviously your team is hoping he'll be the guy who can replace Brown. I mean, if Howie was counting on Hollywood Brown, Elijah Moore or Dontavyion Wicks to be that guy that doesn't seem like typical Roseman. Brown did have 49 catches for the Chiefs last year, but for less than 600 yards while A.J. had 78 for 1,003.

Disagree. They drafted him and Stowers b/c they're installing a different kind of passing attack. He's, of course, not Puka Nacua, but it's that kind of versatility that intrigued them.

BTW, this should be obvious. All this stuff is just my opinion, and it's largely based on accounts from training camp, mainly from the Philadelphia Inquirer, and Jimmy Kempski, Kempski being my fave day-to-day guy out there.

Trading Brown was more of a financial decision than a football one. They couldn't pay everybody, they had some key contracts coming up, they won a SB with Brown, and got a pretty decent return.

Maybe they draft their WR 1 or WR 2 in next year's draft.