Dak is a greater QB than Aikman?

[zrinkill]

This is quite possibly the worst take I have ever seen here. Kudos, well done…….

He is a Giants fan.

 

[nathanlt]

Some of the Speakeasy crew said Dak was better than Aikman and Romo. Romo can be contested but to say Dak is better than a HOF, and one of the most accurate playoff QB in NFL history, is absurd.

Aikman was a far better college QB and pro QB than Dak. No disrespect to Dak, but "I know Troy and you sir (Dak) are no Troy Aikman.

From a statistics perspective Dak exceeds Aikman in TDs. However, with a better defense Troy was limited as the balanced rushing attack proved to be an effective strategy to run out the clock, win games and go to Super Bowls.

Falling short in a statistic or two is a risk you take as you hoist multiple Super Bowl trophies overhead.

 

[McKDaddy]

But Prescott is a better thrower than both of them

Do you think you could get Dak to agree to a throwing competition with 59 year old Troy or 44 year old Tony?

 

[McKDaddy]

If Troy never choked then Troy would have won 11 straight Superbowls from his rookie year to his retirement so that statement is ridiculous

you need to revisit the definition. getting driven into the concrete for the first few years of his career to not having any weapons in the later years isn't choking.

 

[tyke1doe]

Aikman played for 3 rings, Dak plays for a 3-ring circus.

 

[Bullflop]

Troy Aikman was at his very best when the big games in which he started were those with the most pressure. The playoffs and Super Bowls were generously included in his best performances. He had a knack for being extremely well prepared for his biggest challenges. Michael Irvin always bragged about Troy's accuracy, saying there were lots of times when the passes he threw couldn't have been more accurate. I doubt he was exaggerating by saying so. Troy was well known for doing exactly that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Do you want to go down the list of Hall of Fame players Dak and Romo played with? lol. This is whats wrong with this fanbase.

They will do ANYTHING to prop up someone whos been good but not great, even insult past greats.

You are kidding me right now with this right?

Dak had the luxury of coming into the league with 4 future HOFers already on his team (at the time Frederick would have been if not for a crazy illness). Martin, Smith, Frederick, Witten.

Thats 4.

Romo - Owens, Witten, Ware, Frederick, Martin, and Smith - By my count thats 6

Aikman - Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Larry Allen, Charles Haley, Deion Sanders - thats 5.

Get lost already with your nonsense.

So we are now going to downplay the 90s Cowboys and resort to this? Larry Allen is one of thr greatest linemen of all time. Prime is the greatest corner of all time.

Jimmy Johnson is in the hall of fame.

But I get it. Guys like Jimmy Johnson and Jason Garrett of the same caliber. Chad Hennings and Leon Lett are equivalent to Mazi.

They were a damn dynasty lol. I agree get this dumb **** off my screen. It's a embarrassing take.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Prescott is a superior thrower of the football.
Neither one was great, to be honest- or is great.
Greatness is Joe Montana. Greatness is John Elway. Greatness is prolific passers.
Tom Brady was great.
Aikman and Eli Manning are basically the same player. Neither one of them was great, both benefited from great coaching, and great offensive and defensive lines, and very good to great running backs.
System quarterbacks.
Troy’s signature throw comes against San Francisco. and Eli’s comes in the Super Bowl by David Tyree.
But Prescott is a better thrower than both of them.

Quality post lol Giants stink though.

 

[Robbieac]

Prescott is a superior thrower of the football.
Neither one was great, to be honest- or is great.
Greatness is Joe Montana. Greatness is John Elway. Greatness is prolific passers.
Tom Brady was great.
Aikman and Eli Manning are basically the same player. Neither one of them was great, both benefited from great coaching, and great offensive and defensive lines, and very good to great running backs.
System quarterbacks.
Troy’s signature throw comes against San Francisco. and Eli’s comes in the Super Bowl by David Tyree.
But Prescott is a better thrower than both of them.

Hey, look. The Giants fan just said that Eli and Troy are basically the same player.

No one saw that one coming!

 

[ghst187]

Should never be in a serious conversation….

 

[Cowboys5217]

It’s pointless to try and compare generations. Troy played a completely different game than Dak.

Dak is playing against better athletes, Troy probably played in a tougher era overall for the qb position though.

No, he isn't. Athletes today are on average worse than those of the 90s.

 

[gtb1943]

Troy played in an era when you could still hit the QB
nowhere near as bad as Roger had it but still a LOT WORST THEN TODAY.
and in the playoffs, Troy upped his game
That was what mattered

 

[Chasing6]

Aikman was the perfect QB for the era he played in where WR's were getting mauled by the defense and hyper accurate passes made a big difference. He also had very little improv ability and he would have been destroyed behind the lines Romo played with. People forget that was getting booed in the years before he retired when the OL went to crap and we couldn't run or pass block consistently.

All things being equal I'd take Staubach >> Romo >> Aikman >> Dak for this reason, but if you told me we would have a baller OL consistently I'd take Aikman over Romo.

People are going to freak out, but even Aikman is on record saying he thought Romo was better than him. Some data at the bottom to back this up. TLDR it is an attempt to adjust QB rating for player era by converting passer rating stats to a z-score for every season, get a career z-score, and then convert it back to a passer rating based on 2025 metrics.

P.S. Dak is 38-13 outside of the NFC East when the defense gives up 24 points or fewer. Rings are a team stat and not a way to evaluate a QB.

Year-Adjusted Career QB Passer Rating — Top 100 (through 2025)
Regular season only. Each QB season is compared with other QBs in that season. Seasons require 50+ attempts; careers require 1,000+ attempts in qualifying seasons. The adjusted rating is on the 2025 scale, not raw career passer rating.


Rank
Quarterback
2025-Adjusted Rating
Attempts
Seasons
1
Steve Young
105.2
4,149
15
2
Otto Graham
104.7
1,565
6
3
Brock Purdy
104.5
1,353
4
4
Joe Montana
104.2
5,347
13
5
Aaron Rodgers
103.9
8,683
17
6
Roger Staubach
102.8
2,891
9
7
Peyton Manning
102.1
9,380
17
8
Drew Brees
102.1
10,524
19
9
Tom Brady
101.2
12,036
21
10
Bob Griese
100.8
2,491
11
11
Tony Romo
100.4
4,331
10
12
Norm Van Brocklin
99.8
2,895
12
13
Bob Berry
99.6
1,049
5
14
Patrick Mahomes
99.3
4,638
8
15
Sid Luckman
99.1
1,707
11
16
Kurt Warner
99.1
4,059
11
17
Lamar Jackson
99.0
2,888
8
18
Ken Anderson
98.9
4,420
14
19
Joe Burrow
98.8
2,806
6
20
Dan Marino
98.6
8,358
17
21
Fran Tarkenton
98.4
6,467
18
22
Russell Wilson
98.4
6,120
14
23
Sonny Jurgensen
98.2
4,163
14
24
Danny White
97.7
2,805
8
25
Sammy Baugh
97.1
2,962
15
26
Len Dawson
97.0
1,344
6
27
Bart Starr
96.9
3,060
14
28
Philip Rivers
96.9
8,196
16
29
Dak Prescott
96.7
4,759
10
30
Jim Kelly
96.6
4,779
11
31
Jimmy Garoppolo
96.4
1,864
8
32
Dave Krieg
96.3
5,286
16
33
Dan Fouts
96.0
5,604
15
34
Ben Roethlisberger
95.9
8,443
18
35
Greg Landry
95.9
2,156
11
36
Brett Favre
95.6
10,165
19
37
Johnny Unitas
95.5
5,154
17
38
Justin Herbert
95.5
3,438
6
39
Matt Ryan
95.5
8,464
15
40
Jeff Garcia
95.3
3,676
10
41
Y.A. Tittle
95.2
3,817
15
42
Tommy Thompson
95.0
1,368
7
43
Tua Tagovailoa
95.0
2,421
6
44
Chad Pennington
94.6
2,444
8
45
Mark Brunell
94.5
4,567
12
46
Bernie Kosar
94.4
3,321
10
47
Jared Goff
94.3
5,224
10
48
Kirk Cousins
94.2
5,851
13
49
Neil Lomax
94.1
3,153
8
50
Craig Morton
94.0
3,667
14
51
Matthew Stafford
93.8
8,763
17
52
Billy Wade
93.8
2,437
10
53
Billy Kilmer
93.8
2,861
11
54
Rich Gannon
93.7
4,174
13
55
Frank Ryan
93.7
2,114
10
56
Pat Haden
93.7
1,322
5
57
Charlie Conerly
93.5
2,833
14
58
Deshaun Watson
93.5
2,305
7
59
Roman Gabriel
93.3
4,495
15
60
Phil Simms
93.2
4,634
13
61
Joe Theismann
93.2
3,569
10
62
C.J. Stroud
93.1
1,454
3
63
Donovan McNabb
93.1
5,374
13
64
Marc Bulger
93.0
3,171
8
65
Boomer Esiason
93.0
5,205
14
66
Troy Aikman
93.0
4,715
12
67
Arnie Herber
93.0
1,175
11
68
Josh Allen
92.9
4,088
8
69
Jim McMahon
92.9
2,473
10
70
Steve McNair
92.9
4,544
13
71
Ken Stabler
92.8
3,738
13
72
Bill Nelsen
92.8
1,830
7
73
Warren Moon
92.8
6,786
15
74
Charlie Batch
92.6
1,449
6
75
Derek Carr
92.6
5,785
11
76
David Garrard
92.5
2,223
7
77
Jalen Hurts
92.4
2,393
6
78
Shaun Hill
92.3
1,167
5
79
Carson Palmer
92.3
6,307
14
80
Ryan Tannehill
92.1
4,764
11
81
Matt Schaub
92.1
3,301
11
82
Neil O'Donnell
91.8
3,197
11
83
John Elway
91.8
7,250
16
84
Bill Munson
91.7
1,781
9
85
Ken O'Brien
91.7
3,602
10
86
Elvis Grbac
91.5
2,445
8
87
Jeff Hostetler
91.5
2,270
8
88
Brad Johnson
91.4
4,242
12
89
Jeff George
91.2
3,925
11
90
Brian Griese
90.9
2,761
9
91
Kyler Murray
90.9
2,941
7
92
Bert Jones
90.6
2,509
9
93
Daunte Culpepper
90.6
3,199
10
94
Jordan Love
90.6
1,505
4
95
Bob Waterfield
90.6
1,617
8
96
Wade Wilson
90.5
2,320
12
97
Bobby Thomason
90.5
1,334
7
98
John Brodie
90.4
4,470
16
99
Trent Green
90.3
3,739
10
100
Teddy Bridgewater
90.2
2,042
6

Aikman was perfect for the team Jimmy belt around him.

 

[Robbieac]

To Troy’s credit, he had Jimmy Johnson building and running his team.

Romo and Dak have had Jerry Jones building and running their teams.

One of those is definitely not like the other…

 

[gtb1943]

Aikman was perfect for the team Jimmy belt around him.

Exactly, like Montana was perfect for the system Walsh had and Brady for the system BB had

 

[gtb1943]

To Troy’s credit, he had Jimmy Johnson building and running his team.

Romo and Dak have had Jerry Jones building and running their teams.

One of those is definitely not like the other…

Romo had for the end of his career and Dak for the first part of his career the extra dead weight of Garrett

 

[Robbieac]

Romo had for the end of his career and Dak for the first part of his career the extra dead weight of Garrett

Agreed. That’s definitely a double whammy.

A double handicap of Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett are more than enough to sink your career.

 

[thunderpimp91]

No, he isn't. Athletes today are on average worse than those of the 90s.

How so? Players on average are bigger, stronger, and faster than they were 30 years ago. The same will most likely be true 30 years from today as well. Our knowledge of the human body and nutrition only get better as well as technology.

As good as he was a guy like Mark Stepnoski wouldn’t make it today at 270lbs. Hes probably close to 30lbs lighter than any other center that’s started in 2026.

 

[gtb1943]

MM was better than Garrett and Schotty so far seems better then MM

not huge advances but definite progress
maybe in ten years or so we get a real good HC

 

[gtb1943]

How so? Players on average are bigger, stronger, and faster than they were 30 years ago. The same will most likely be true 30 years from today as well. Our knowledge of the human body and nutrition only get better as well as technology.

As good as he was a guy like Mark Stepnoski wouldn’t make it today at 270lbs. Hes probably close to 30lbs lighter than any other center that’s started in 2026.

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