Adrian Peterson threatening retirement

joseephuss said:
When have the Vikings not held up their end of the deal with respect to Peterson?
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Adrian wants to remove that option from the table.

If they truly want him, it shouldn't be a problem.

Why do you think Dez is holding out????
 
big dog cowboy said:
I can't keep up with this thread. Could someone PM me and let me know who's winning? Thanks!
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stasheroo said:
You're fabricating options and clauses in a desparate attempt to support a failed position. And you're failing miserably.
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I am not fabricating anything. I have stated several times that the way the contract is structured, and in conjunction with the current CBA, the final 3 years of the deal (2015, 2016, 2017) are, for all practical intents and purposes, club option years. They have the option to keep him at $13/$15/$17 million respectively (assuming Peterson reports to all activities, doesn't get suspended, etc.) and they have the option to cut him prior to each season with no further salary due.

Please tell me what part of the above is fabricated or is factually incorrect. Put up or shut up. What part of the above have I fabricated? <crickets chirping>

The fact that you are constantly lying shows how bankrupt your position is.
 
bkight13 said:
He keeps trying to invent these things to buttress his terrible argument. It was option years and now it's escape clauses. He just can't admit he hates Peterson and he hopes the Vikings actually screw him over.
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What have I invented? What have I said that isn't true? I have stated several times that the way the contract is structured, and in conjunction with the current CBA, the final 3 years of the deal (2015, 2016, 2017) are, for all practical intents and purposes, club option years. They have the option to keep him at $13/$15/$17 million respectively (assuming Peterson reports to all activities, doesn't get suspended, etc.) and they have the option to cut him prior to each season with no further salary due.

Put up or shut up. What part of the above is incorrect?
 
big dog cowboy said:
I can't keep up with this thread. Could someone PM me and let me know who's winning? Thanks!
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Well, I'll tell you this.... the people who are telling outright lies aren't winning. I have done nothing but provide facts to support my opinions. People are lying by saying I am making stuff up, but they can't point out a single thing I have presented as factual that isn't factually accurate.

Obviously I have opinions that people disagree with, but everything I have presented as fact regarding the structure of his current deal is accurate.
 
bkight13 said:
Adrian wants to remove that option from the table.

If they truly want him, it shouldn't be a problem.

Why do you think Dez is holding out????
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Here's a question I know you won't answer:

Do you think Dallas should fully guarantee Romo's 5 remaining years? After all, if they truly want him then they would do that, right? Dallas should honor their contract! Dallas isn't honoring their contract with Romo because they are not fully guaranteeing the remaining years! What a 2nd rate organization!!!
 
Rogah said:
Here's a question I know you won't answer:

Do you think Dallas should fully guarantee Romo's 5 remaining years? After all, if they truly want him then they would do that, right? Dallas should honor their contract! Dallas isn't honoring their contract with Romo because they are not fully guaranteeing the remaining years! What a 2nd rate organization!!!
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No
 
bkight13 said:
No
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Well then they're a 2nd rate organization that doesn't honor their deals!! If they wanted him, they would guarantee his money!!!

If they truly want him, it shouldn't be a problem.
 
joseephuss said:
When have the Vikings not held up their end of the deal with respect to Peterson?
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We've gone down this road already. To this point, the Vikings have, bonus money in the contract ensured that. And now that bonus money is gone. Peterson is looking for them to guarantee the remaining years too.

How about answering my previous question to you.

Do you expect the Vikings to honor the remaining years of the deal?

 
stasheroo said:
We've gone down this road already. To this point, the Vikings have, bonus money in the contract ensured that. And now that bonus money is gone. Peterson is looking for them to guarantee the remaining years too.

How about answering my previous question to you.

Do you expect the Vikings to honor the remaining years of the deal?
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We've gone down the road because that is the road we are on. You are trying to take an exit that doesn't exist yet. You are talking about what may happen instead of what is happening.

If it truly matters, no, I don't expect the Vikings to keep Peterson after this season. Not after dealing with what Peterson is doing to them. Had 2014 not gone the way it did I figured Minny would have reworked a deal with Peterson, but this past year has changed everything. I expect Peterson gone after 2015. That should work out in his favor since he is still the once in a generation, freak athlete everyone claims him to be. He gets $12 million this year and gets a new contract on a new team. That new team will have to pay him because he is so great and at his prime right now, apparently.

The absolute best he can do in terms of finances is stick with the Vikings and get $45 million over 3 years. If he wasn't being such a headache this probably would have happened with ease. All of the tension that currently exists between Minnesota and Peterson is Peterson's doing.

The next best scenario for Peterson is to get paid this year and get a new contract next season. It won't match the $45 million over 2015, 2016 and 2017, but it would be something.

The worst option where he gets the least amount of money over the next 3 seasons is getting cut now and then finding a new team. That is unless a team like Jacksonville with a lot of cap space comes a calling. Of course then he would be stuck in Jacksonville. It shouldn't matter though because he has shown it is all about the money to him.
 
stasheroo said:
We've gone down this road already. To this point, the Vikings have, bonus money in the contract ensured that. And now that bonus money is gone.
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Just because the bonus money is gone doesn't mean Peterson is now free of his own contractual obligations, a contract he negotiated and signed in good faith. He took their money in exchange for agreeing they controlled his rights for 6 years, but he knew full well not all of those years were guaranteed.

If he didn't like that deal, he shouldn't have taken their money.
 
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As predicted (by some but not by others), looks like Peterson caved.
 
joseephuss said:
We've gone down the road because that is the road we are on. You are trying to take an exit that doesn't exist yet. You are talking about what may happen instead of what is happening.
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Actually, what I'm not doing is talking about the past and factors that cannot be altered. What's done is done. Good, bad, or otherwise.

If it truly matters, no, I don't expect the Vikings to keep Peterson after this season. Not after dealing with what Peterson is doing to them. Had 2014 not gone the way it did I figured Minny would have reworked a deal with Peterson, but this past year has changed everything. I expect Peterson gone after 2015. That should work out in his favor since he is still the once in a generation, freak athlete everyone claims him to be. He gets $12 million this year and gets a new contract on a new team. That new team will have to pay him because he is so great and at his prime right now, apparently.
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Thanks for finally giving a solid answer. On all of these points, we agree. And I think Peterson agrees as well. And that's a big part of why he's looking for guarantees on the remaining dollars. I'll simply dismiss the rest of the sarcastic hyperbole.

The absolute best he can do in terms of finances is stick with the Vikings and get $45 million over 3 years. If he wasn't being such a headache this probably would have happened with ease. All of the tension that currently exists between Minnesota and Peterson is Peterson's doing.
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I think you just said yourself in the above statement that you didn't expect the Vikings not to try to rework his contract either. But now you're saying that the $45 million would have happened "with ease"? That seems contradicting. I don't disagree that most of this is Peterson's own doing, but it's my belief that the player and team were headed towards renegotiations anyway. The structure of the contract and bonus money supports that.

The next best scenario for Peterson is to get paid this year and get a new contract next season. It won't match the $45 million over 2015, 2016 and 2017, but it would be something.

The worst option where he gets the least amount of money over the next 3 seasons is getting cut now and then finding a new team. That is unless a team like Jacksonville with a lot of cap space comes a calling. Of course then he would be stuck in Jacksonville. It shouldn't matter though because he has shown it is all about the money to him.
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I don't think he's managed things as well as he could have, but I don't agree that it's "all about the money" to him. He's repeatedly mentioned location being a factor as well.
 
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