It's Over

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In 2010 the Cowboys shut down Romo because of the fact that the team was out of the playoff race when he was healthy enough to play again. Should we do the same this year? Realistically with the way the Giants are playing does anyone really expect the Cowboys to still be alive when Romo can return against Miami? I just don't see it.

The team I saw in the second half looked just dead and lifeless and I can't blame them. This coaching staff and that scrub quarterback sucks the life out of the game. Running on every first down. Doing nothing to help your offensive line. To help your receivers. Teams run pick plays on us all game and we never run any. Same basic offense every single week.

Honestly if I'm Romo I may even consider retiring. What are the odds as much as we love and clearly miss the guy he can even make it through the season? As much as I dread seeing this team post Romo I can't help, but think realistically he missed his best shot at a Super Bowl last year after the excruciating loss against Green Bay. Really a shame. Witten too.

I just think it's too uphill of a battle. Defense is improved, but the safeties outside of Jones are still awful. Tackling was awful. No play makers in that secondary or ballhawks. There's no way you can win a game in New York on the road even with a switch at quarterback if we can't force Eli into picks. I've seen nothing to think that will change.

Plus we saw what New England did after the defensive line mauled their offensive line. Getting the ball out of Brady's hands and with the horrific coverage they have the ability to do that. It's sad that our best cover corner in this game was Corey White. Tackling was pathetic. Safeties continue to take awful angles.

I do think Matt Cassel can give the Cowboys a spark, but will it be enough? Getting Dez back for the game in New York would be huge because he'll take a few defenders away from that box. The problem is we still have two huge liabilities on the offensive line right now. Two players who have been good players for us, but it looks like age, atricion, and a degenerative knee condition have taken it's toll for Ronald Leary and Doug Free. Free is so key on those backside blocks in this scheme and he's just unable to get there. These scrub backs can't make that guy miss.

It's clear letting DeMarco Murray walk was a horrible decision. Perfect fit for this scheme. Even when there were unblocked defenders he wasn't hesitant. He'd put his head down and run over and through people and that's missing right. Leary is getting pushed back time after time. Free has never been a power guy. His strength has been mobility, footwork, fleet footness and whether he's just old or his ankles or whatever it is that's no longer there.

Then you talk about the coaching staff. I've defended them in the past and I just can't do it. I already alluded to the horrific schemes, but with how God awful Weeden was in that first half. This offense desperately needed a spark and we could've went with Cassel and they stuck with Weeden. Why? You could even see it in Romo's face. He knows this team is doomed without him. It's just so depressing to watch.

The guy has a great arm Weeden I mean that's great, but once again he took sacks by not being able to maneuver in the pocket. Just the basic fundamentals he doesn't possess. I think Jerry was being kind when he said he was limited. He's a liability and believe me I feel stupid for ever believing in this guy. We know with all these injuries it was on the coaching staff to put these players in a situation to succeed and they haven't done that.

They keep trying to run the ball despite teams stacking the line of scrimmage. They aren't getting anything from Randle and McFadden. Both go down so easily. No element of toughness. They're both hesitant. What does it hurt to go Michael at this point? Yeah he may not be better, but we don't know until we actually use him. What was the point of trading for him if we aren't gonna use him? The game was out of reach pretty much after the Patriots scored on their opening possession and we still stuck with Randle and McFadden.

Ultimately this goes on Jerry Jones. How can you continue to refuse to draft a quarterback? When was the last time? Stephen McGee. Absolutely inexcusable. Romo has sustained a significant injury now three straight years. As much as I love the guy he hasn't been able to play a full season since 2012. At some point you have to look towards the future and draft someone and try to develop into a future starter. Not only that is Brandon Weeden really the best we could do as a backup? No he wasn't.

Getting back to Murray I agreed with the decision to let him go, but right now it looks like one of the worst decisions in recent memory by this organization. This guy was so good not only last year, but his entire career in Dallas. He didn't even have a quality line until 2013. The only thing that stopped him from being an elite back was injuries and horrific play calling. He was never the quickest guy, but who cares? McFadden and Randle are a little more explosive and nowhere near the complete back Murray. DeMarco is excellent in pass protection, such a tough runner, you never saw him go down so easily, he gave us an identity, he inflicted punishment on anyone who tried to take him down, he was just so determined, got the dirty and tough yards that the current guys can't, and the fact that the Cowboys just let him go to a division rival because of the sheer arrogance that anyone could run behind this offensive line just really sickens me. People wonder why that offensive line has struggled well that's one reason. They miss DeMarco as much as he misses them.

I really think this franchise has gotten cheap and they've gotten so overly concerned with overpaying. There is a fine line. You can't just let everyone role player go. Justin Durant and Dwayne Harris. Two really big mistakes imo. Durant we've seen how he's played for Philly. A guy who played Lee's current position and was always the first to the football and a sure tackler. Is he as good? Hell no, but definitely a guy who can step right in if/when Sean goes down. Harris was a guy who gave us some depth at the reciever spot. Kind of a jack of all trades player. Dude ran solid routes, was really good when you got the ball in his hands, great on special teams, and another guy we just allowed to go to a division rival.

I just don't see a lot of reason for hope the rest of the way. You have to go win on the road against a hot Giants team. Yeah I don't think they're that good, but neither is this current team. They look as bad as any team in football right now. We're banking on Dez coming back and being Dez, but who's to say Linehan won't just continue to allow him to be a decoy like he did last year? That's just inexcusable when we've seen what so many other teams do with their #1 wideouts.

Randy Gregory should be back and him and Hardy will be scary. Along with Lawrence. Defensive line has the potential to be really good and pile up a lot of sacks, but we've seen how teams will counter that. How does Rod counter? Another guy who needs to be called out. There's been so many instances of mind boggling decisions. A few weeks ago dropping his least athletic defensive lineman in Jack Crawford into coverage who got burned for a big gain. Last week in New Orleans the defensive line got gassed in the second half and he left them out to dry by refusing to blitz. Pulled the same crap against Green Bay last year when Rodgers couldn't move at all. I mean you have a gimpy quarterback. Wanna make him more gimpy you hit the guy. When Atlanta moved Julio around he didn't adjust. Claiborne was the only one who showed the ability to contain the man all game and he just left him on the outside and let him destroy Patmon in the slot.

I just I really thought the Cowboys would be a legit Super Bowl threat. These injuries and these back to back to back losses have sucked all the excitement I once had out of me. This game today was one of the most brutal we've seen in a long time. Despite the defense getting off to a strong start you never really felt the Cowboys could threaten the Patriots. It was so tough to watch us struggle and getting three and out after three and out. This is not what anyone expected from the Dallas Cowboys. I hate to say it, but I think it's over. I hope they prove me wrong.
 

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sheeet i knew it was over after we loss to the saints. that was our only hope of a win with mr checkdown weeden over center.
 

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The funny thing is, in terms of RB that is, that we have a RB now that has a similar skillset to that of Murrays. The problem is that our coaching staff is so stubborn with this stupid RBBC disaster that he's not even given an opportunity to show what he can do.
 

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The funny thing is, in terms of RB that is, that we have a RB now that has a similar skillset to that of Murrays. The problem is that our coaching staff is so stubborn with this stupid RBBC disaster that he's not even given an opportunity to show what he can do.

Exactly. What makes it so frustrating is we all know what these other bums are and that's what they're is bums. What have Randle and McFadden done to warrant so much trust by the coaches? Not a damn thing. Randle stood up them last week and they still put him back in there. McFadden was supposed to be explosive and a good blitz pickup guy and he's neither.
 

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Exactly. What makes it so frustrating is we all know what these other bums are and that's what they're is bums. What have Randle and McFadden done to warrant so much trust by the coaches? Not a damn thing. Randle stood up them last week and they still put him back in there. McFadden was supposed to be explosive and a good blitz pickup guy and he's neither.

It was a stupid gamble for the FO not finding a capable replacement for Murray. They didn't draft a RB and they could have had other backs during the off season like Chris Johnson. But for some reason the FO and Garrett is too stubborn.

The RBBC is the single biggest failure this year. It has snowballed to where it affected everything about this offense. If we had stuck to power running game it might be quit possible Romo would not have been injured. Now we reap what we sow and our once proud running game of yesteryear has all but disappeared and we are left with scrubs - Randle and MacFadden - who are nothing more than change of pace backs.

The Cowboys FO once again grasped defeat in the mist of victory. All we needed to do was stick to what worked and we would probably not be in this situation to begin with.
 

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Maybe now the gutless, no sense of accountability having "sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the other team" crowd will understand how big those losses (That could have and should have been wins) to Atlanta and N.O. were.
 

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Maybe now the gutless, no sense of accountability having "sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the other team" crowd will understand how big those losses (That could have and should have been wins) to Atlanta and N.O. were.

They're the gutless ones? The ones who were keeping it in perspective and not running around with their hair on fire? That's in interesting interpretation.

I never went around creating 'not in our house threads,' but then, I also don't think it's over in week 5 with all our players just now coming back and a weak stretch schedule ahead of us when the division's all knotted up.

And, in case you haven't been watching, ATL is a pretty good team, by the way. So are the Patriots. By the time it's all said and done, this skid might not look so bad.
 

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Sweet mother. The season isn't over in Week 5 and I don't care if that makes me appear "gutless" to the so called realist crowd, of which the OP has seemed far too eager to join.
 

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They're the gutless ones? The ones who were keeping it in perspective and not running around with their hair on fire? That's in interesting interpretation.

I never went around creating 'not in our house threads,' but then, I also don't think it's over in week 5 with all our players just now coming back and a weak stretch schedule ahead of us when the division's all knotted up.

And, in case you haven't been watching, ATL is a pretty good team, by the way. So are the Patriots. By the time it's all said and done, this skid might not look so bad.

Your words mean nothing. They lose against NY its over. 22 unanswered points in one half..Bu bu but atlanta is a pretty good team
 

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It is hard to admit that it is over when the Gem always seem to have a meltdown mid-season and lose games.....they very well should have lost to the Niners.

But, we are in deep poo no doubt. I think the FO thought we could run anyone behind our OL based on last year, but the OL is not the same one we had last year.

then we lose Romo and Dez and we find out that we have no depth on offense at the skill positions.

we may never know our good the defense is because the offense is so bad. I hoped we could win 4 or 5 games while Romo was out....I am having doubts.

we have a chance after the bye to win in NY and at home against the Eagles and Hawks. Tampa ought to be a W. These are trying times for cowboy fans for sure.
 

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Playing great defenses like the Packers, Jets, and Bills in December will be rough. Wouldn't be surprised if Romo got hurt again vs. one of those teams and it's definitely not worth the risk. I watched the Rams/Packers game yesterday and my goodness, some of the hits Clay Matthews was dishing out on Foles would have broken Romo. On top of that, you play the Commanders twice, who will blitz Romo a thousand times and knock him around.
 

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Your words mean nothing. They lose against NY its over. 22 unanswered points in one half..Bu bu but atlanta is a pretty good team

Doubling down isn't making what you're saying any more accurate.
 

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If they switch to Cassell in the bye week I'll say I don't think it's over yet.

I have faith that Cassell can do enough with this offense to win against the Giants, Philly, and the Bucs. If he comes in and gives us 3 out of those 4 games like that then we'll be good. That's 5-4 when Romo comes back and that's more than enough for Romo to do his thing, get us in the playoffs, and then see where it goes from there.

This team just has to move away from Weeden if we're going to have any shot.
 

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I'm not sure how this'll play out this year.
I guess we'll see if the team can someone win one or two without Romo before throwing in any towels.

However, I'm not even sure Romo should come back until Thanksgiving (not at Miami). Having a road game in Miami and then another game Thursday afternoon seems a bit much coming off of injury.

But with how young the line is and how promising the future of this defense could be next year and beyond, I don't see any way that Romo would retire. He and the team's best chance to get a Super Bowl since 2007 may be next year...especially if they continue the roster upgrades.
 
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