Michael Irvin: I will work with Johnny Manziel; Cowboys should help save him

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Former Dallas Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin joined Rich Eisen to chat about Johnny Manziel.

Manziel is expected to be released by the Cleveland Browns in March, and Irvin would love to see the former Texas A&M Aggies star in a Cowboys uniform.

"I love the game of football and the game of football saves lives," Irvin said. "If you can get a young guy, Johnny Manziel won aHeisman Trophy at 18-19 years old. He is still growing up. I don't know why we think if a guy can throw a football it makes him the most mature person in the world. There will come a time when he will cross over that threshold and become a great football playerm and I am willing to workwith him on that and I hope the Cowboys do get him.

"I know this kid has worked hard to get where he is. Let's give the kid another shot, he lands in a better spot and get around the right kind of people. Help him become a better football player and a better man. That's what the game of football does."

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I don't think it's fair to lump Hardy in the "failed" category at this point. Conflicting reports there but on the whole, I do agree that the idea of saving people is not really the business we are in. First of all, you have to want to get right. Secondly, I am not a believer in doing this at the QB position. It's just to visible and demands way too much from a player. You can't hide anything and everything is blown up into something much, much bigger, regardless of validity.

Who's the last QB we had with issues like this? Quincy Carter maybe? That didn't turn out well at all and we were a terrible team then with much less media visibility.
 
RS12 said:
Former Dallas Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin joined Rich Eisen to chat about Johnny Manziel.

Manziel is expected to be released by the Cleveland Browns in March, and Irvin would love to see the former Texas A&M Aggies star in a Cowboys uniform.

"I love the game of football and the game of football saves lives," Irvin said. "If you can get a young guy, Johnny Manziel won aHeisman Trophy at 18-19 years old. He is still growing up. I don't know why we think if a guy can throw a football it makes him the most mature person in the world. There will come a time when he will cross over that threshold and become a great football playerm and I am willing to workwith him on that and I hope the Cowboys do get him.

"I know this kid has worked hard to get where he is. Let's give the kid another shot, he lands in a better spot and get around the right kind of people. Help him become a better football player and a better man. That's what the game of football does."

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...in-will-work-johnny-manziel-cowboys-help-save
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Michael Irvin: The most unqualified American to offer advice on saving anybody. Irvin is a carnival barker, a mental midget and, on his very best day, an almost average football analyst.
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Having said that, he was a heck of a WR, an icon of Cowboys lore.

AND WHEN DID THE COWBOYS BECOME A REHAB UNIT??????????????????????

Good day, blokes! I'm off to shoot darts at the Cat & the Fiddle and then have pot roast and ale at Ben's Pub and Bookstore.
Cheers!
 
Quincy Carter and Ryan Leaf, before prison...

I love the man, Michael Irvin although. In my eyes, not many a better athlete with a ton of sportsmanship.

The problem here, is the 'dumb blond' doesn't gamble more than personal amusements at the level of a man, and professional.

Really high stakes there, Michael. I hope that you have more than conversations to go by in the present.
 
You can see Jerry thinking.. sign RG3 and Manziel and that is like adding 2 more first rounders for free! No drafting needed. And that would be ok if there was not so much baggage.. but Jerry loves the first rounder for cheap play for his all rehab team.
 
Sorry Mike it does not work that way, Manziel has to be the one willing to change, he is the one that needs to seek professional help. I think Mike can be a great mentor but any change in a person has to start with that person. Manziel has shown nothing to prove he will seek help
 
31smackdown said:
You can see Jerry thinking.. sign RG3 and Manziel and that is like adding 2 more first rounders for free! No drafting needed. And that would be ok if there was not so much baggage.. but Jerry loves the first rounder for cheap play for his all rehab team.
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I'd be more interested in rolling the dice if I thought either of em could play. I dont.
 
Look, I get trying to "save" a guy if their talent is worth it. But, best case, the guy gets his head on straight, he's still an undersized QB with underwhelming measureables who hasn't really shown much on a pro field against pro talent. What are we trying to salvage? It's not an uphill battle. It's up two damn hills.
 
I said it before. We are becoming the NFL's halfway house obviously desperate to fix the physically gifted/mentally challenged athletes of the NFL in hopes of some way find a Super Bowl in the process.
Unfortunately we have no coaches/counselors to fix these guys. Listening to Rodney Harrison this morning on Patrick talking about JFootball. In context, you start bringing these clowns in the locker room and the rest of the team starts losing respect for the team, coaches, organization as a whole and just playing out their contracts. The whole thought of winning takes a back seat much less winning a championship.
 
DenCWBY said:
I said it before. We are becoming the NFL's halfway house obviously desperate to fix the physically gifted/mentally challenged athletes of the NFL in hopes of some way find a Super Bowl in the process.
Unfortunately we have no coaches/counselors to fix these guys. Listening to Rodney Harrison this morning on Patrick talking about JFootball. In context, you start bringing these clowns in the locker room and the rest of the team starts losing respect for the team, coaches, organization as a whole and just playing out their contracts. The whole thought of winning takes a back seat much less winning a championship.
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I agree. right now I wants guys who are passionate about football and willing to do what ever they have to do to get this franchise back to it's winning ways and I don't see that in Manziel. I'm not interested in guys like Manziel who seem more interested in partying and acting like a fool. He has issues and I don't think the Cowboys need to add more issues to this team.
 
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I'd be more interested in rolling the dice if I thought either of em could play. I dont.
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Yeah that is the issue too.
1.RG .....has sat out a year after playing badly, and the year before mostly out with injury.
Has one really bad knee/ leg, and similar to Romo 1 bad hit on that knee, he could be done fore the year.
RG hAd 1 good year , back when he ran the ball good and a lot.
After coming back from that injury, he was Just mediocre.
HIs passing was never that great, and under JG he would flop.

2. JF......Is undersized for a QB, and not a great runner, but can scramble and run.
So far the best JF has done is mediocre. he has hit some long TD passes, and ran for a TD or 2.
Under JG he would flop.

I think both QB's need a team and HC and OC that would devise a offense specifically for them and what they do best.
If that happens either one might be pretty good, but they are not going to fit into most NFL Offenses.

So bottom line is with JG and Linny, RG and JF would be not better or different than Cassel and weeden, and Moore.

-- edit.... well they would be different in that either one could run with the ball
better than the 3 dallas played this year. but that is it , and I just dont think
that would help enough to Say they could be bkups who can win .

Although they maybe could win more than what dallas did in 2015 with bkups
dallas would be hard pressed to do that bad again with any qb, but
with JG here who knows,
 
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