Stephen Jones' comments at owners meeting

[jazzcat22]

We have a Rant zone...
Maybe they will open a Sunshine and Rainbows Zone for you.

As long as you and your cohorts don't rain on the zone...well, ok then....
So maybe you need a whine and cry and hate zone just as well...

 

[jazzcat22]

We have a Rant zone...
Maybe they will open a Sunshine and Rainbows Zone for you.

Just your same typical crap that you do to chase people away. or gets you on ignore...

 

[superonyx]

Just your same typical crap that you do to chase people away. or gets you on ignore...

Don't be so sensitive. We don't all have to agree. It's why we come here. Or at least why some people come to a discussion board. What fun would it be if we all just agreed all the time?

I threw you 2 "likes" to your last 2 post just to show you that we can disagree and still all be friends.

 

[jazzcat22]

Don't be so sensitive. We don't all have to agree. It's why we come here. Or at least why some people come to a discussion board. What fun would it be if we all just agreed all the time?

I threw you 2 "likes" to your last 2 post just to show you that we can disagree and still all be friends.

Not sensitive, was just trying to be a smart arse. Plus on first cup of coffee...LOL...

 

[jazzcat22]

Don't be so sensitive. We don't all have to agree. It's why we come here. Or at least why some people come to a discussion board. What fun would it be if we all just agreed all the time?

I threw you 2 "likes" to your last 2 post just to show you that we can disagree and still all be friends.

And I can be an have been critical of the team.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I have no idea what they think they're doing at QB. If they don't take one at 4, we've done nothing to get better there. That's crazy.

This is the key statement.

If they take a QB at #4, they have a legit backup and a potential prospect for the future. If they do not take a QB and go with Moore as the primary backup, the plan is to go all in with Romo and hope he stays healthy. If he doesn't, their fate is sealed and they get a shot at another QB prospect high in the 2017 draft.

 

[Hawkeye19]

This is the key statement.

If they take a QB at #4, they have a legit backup and a potential prospect for the future. If they do not take a QB and go with Moore as the primary backup, the plan is to go all in with Romo and hope he stays healthy. If he doesn't, their fate is sealed and they get a shot at another QB prospect high in the 2017 draft.

I think they will move back up into the late first for Lynch or Cook-- which is where Goff and Went should also go. The talent level of the top 4 guys is pretty comparable and should slot them all pretty much as late first/early second round picks in most years. This year is lean at QB-- so they are over-valued, which is dangerous for us.

At 4 we need to get an impact player pure and simple. Drafting a QB there only makes sense if he's a franchise QB, and none of the QBs in this draft are (imo)... therefore, if Ramsey is there, he's too good to pass up. Next (for me) is Zeke. Then, I'd look to trade down. Bosa just doesn't do it for me at #4, but if he's the pick I won't freak out. He'll help us-- but a trade back would give us more ammo in a draft that is plenty deep along the DL.

 

[Alexander]

I think they will move back up into the late first for Lynch or Cook-- which is where Goff and Went should also go.

Lynch in the late first would be nice and a strong enough prospect to actually trade up for. Cook? If that happens, I start breaking furniture.

 

[reddyuta]

This is the key statement.

If they take a QB at #4, they have a legit backup and a potential prospect for the future. If they do not take a QB and go with Moore as the primary backup, the plan is to go all in with Romo and hope he stays healthy. If he doesn't, their fate is sealed and they get a shot at another QB prospect high in the 2017 draft.

Nothing they have done in FA and the past few years seem to indicate that they are all in with Romo,imo they are more likely now to grab a QB in the first 2 RDs.I am only interested in the top 3 QBs in this draft,the rest of them are not worth it.

 

[reddyuta]

I think they will move back up into the late first for Lynch or Cook-- which is where Goff and Went should also go. The talent level of the top 4 guys is pretty comparable and should slot them all pretty much as late first/early second round picks in most years. This year is lean at QB-- so they are over-valued, which is dangerous for us.

At 4 we need to get an impact player pure and simple. Drafting a QB there only makes sense if he's a franchise QB, and none of the QBs in this draft are (imo)... therefore, if Ramsey is there, he's too good to pass up. Next (for me) is Zeke. Then, I'd look to trade down. Bosa just doesn't do it for me at #4, but if he's the pick I won't freak out. He'll help us-- but a trade back would give us more ammo in a draft that is plenty deep along the DL.

this is your opinion but i and a lot of draft gurus dont share it,in the end only our scouts matter if they think goff and lynch can be a franchise qb.

 

[jazzcat22]

Nothing they have done in FA and the past few years seem to indicate that they are all in with Romo,imo they are more likely now to grab a QB in the first 2 RDs.I am only interested in the top 3 QBs in this draft,the rest of them are not worth it.

This almost sums it up for me also. By saying almost....
Wentz, Goff, Lynch I have no issues with. If the value of the pick is there, Cook or even Hackenberg, if he drops to the 3rd.
Prescott, I am not sure, I wouldn't have an issue if in the 4th, but not sure I would want them to use a 3rd.
After that I don't think I would want any until the 6th.

It's a tough thing to know...
Elliot, Lynch
Wentz or Goff, then Henry

I would be happy with either, but right now prefer Elliot, Lynch.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think they will move back up into the late first for Lynch or Cook-- which is where Goff and Went should also go. The talent level of the top 4 guys is pretty comparable and should slot them all pretty much as late first/early second round picks in most years. This year is lean at QB-- so they are over-valued, which is dangerous for us.

At 4 we need to get an impact player pure and simple. Drafting a QB there only makes sense if he's a franchise QB, and none of the QBs in this draft are (imo)... therefore, if Ramsey is there, he's too good to pass up. Next (for me) is Zeke. Then, I'd look to trade down. Bosa just doesn't do it for me at #4, but if he's the pick I won't freak out. He'll help us-- but a trade back would give us more ammo in a draft that is plenty deep along the DL.

Yes (for moving up) if it is for Lynch. Heck no if it is for Cook.

 

[FolsomCowboy]

I swear to God, I would rather not hear from anyone named Jones, ever.

We all want to know, but honestly, I think sometimes, I don't want to know anymore.

Just fumble around like the mental deficients you are. Don't telegraph it.

So what exactly would your plan for the offseason be? You seem to think yourself some sort of guru so please lay out your plan on who we should have cut and who we should have resigned and at what price. Then who we should have signed from the free agent pool and at what price and lastly what our draft choices should be. If you have already done so in a previous thread feel free to direct me there. And thanks in advance, I look forward to your offseason plan to improve the Cowboys.

 

[JoeKing]

Actually, it's not.

Actually it is.

 

[visionary]

I think they will move back up into the late first for Lynch or Cook-- which is where Goff and Went should also go. The talent level of the top 4 guys is pretty comparable and should slot them all pretty much as late first/early second round picks in most years. This year is lean at QB-- so they are over-valued, which is dangerous for us.

At 4 we need to get an impact player pure and simple. Drafting a QB there only makes sense if he's a franchise QB, and none of the QBs in this draft are (imo)... therefore, if Ramsey is there, he's too good to pass up. Next (for me) is Zeke. Then, I'd look to trade down. Bosa just doesn't do it for me at #4, but if he's the pick I won't freak out. He'll help us-- but a trade back would give us more ammo in a draft that is plenty deep along the DL.

Not sure I agree
I think Goff/Wentz are better than Lynch and Cook is way below those 2
Now Lynch has a lot of upside but I'm not convinced our coaching staff had any idea how to coach him up

So I would just take whoever of the top 2 is available at 4 as long as my scouts are on board with that

If my scouts don't think these 2 are worth the 4th overall pick then I try to trade down but I'm not taking Bosa/Ransey/Elliot/Jack at 4 if I can help it

 

[Verdict]

For this team? In this current environment? He's impossible to replace.

If Hardy is so impossible for us to replace with another player, why haven't we, or some other team even offered him a low ball offer? Keep in mind he played for us last year. If we said hey we aren't resigning Fredbeard do you think he would be sitting on the scrap heap like Hardy is now or would he sign in the first minutes of opening day of free agency????? There is a reason that Hardy is still waiting by the phone straining his ears to hear a ring that hasn't come yet.

 

[Stash]

Not sure I agree
I think Goff/Wentz are better than Lynch and Cook is way below those 2
Now Lynch has a lot of upside but I'm not convinced our coaching staff had any idea how to coach him up

So I would just take whoever of the top 2 is available at 4 as long as my scouts are on board with that

If my scouts don't think these 2 are worth the 4th overall pick then I try to trade down but I'm not taking Bosa/Ransey/Elliot/Jack at 4 if I can help it

You stole my answer, I feel exactly the same way.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Draft a quarterback in the first and I'll be convinced Jerry is continuing to build this team to win in 2 to 3 years which is exactly what he should be doing

They need to commit to one or the other. Either we are rebuilding or we are going for a Super Bowl now. Half committed to either way is a disservice to both. I can live with either just tell me what I'm looking at.

 

[Stash]

If Hardy is so impossible for us to replace with another player, why haven't we, or some other team even offered him a low ball offer? Keep in mind he played for us last year. If we said hey we aren't resigning Fredbeard do you think he would be sitting on the scrap heap like Hardy is now or would he sign in the first minutes of opening day of free agency????? There is a reason that Hardy is still waiting by the phone straining his ears to hear a ring that hasn't come yet.

There's no doubt about that. The guy is a pain in the ***, just like he was before we signed him in the first place. But despite the stench surrounding him, we were still willing to get into bed with him then, weren't we? It's ridiculous for this team or its' fans to try to jump on some moral high horse now.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Again....that's only true if those guys are franchise QBs.
If the talent evaluators say these QBs are nothing special and have other guys rated higher, then drafting a QB at 4 due to Romo's age and injuries is a disaster, like drafting any position for need by reaching. We can't make flat out comments about any position that must be picked at 4 unless we are privy to evaluations and the board.

I think the only "talent evaluators" that say the QBs are nothing special are our resident you tube scouts. Most respected, professional talent evaluators have said on may occasions they are the real deal.