I am on the Dak train and I love our draft even more now

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I can't imagine that to be the case .

Drafting for a backup with hope to develop over time is not the same as drafting a top pick who is slated to be the heir apparent .

Sometimes you get lucky and the player develops sooner than you expect . But I haven't heard from anyone that saw this kind of performance coming ?

No one ever "expects" that sort of production in a players first preseason game, even from a can't miss like Andrew Luck. However, I don't know why anyone would ever draft a player if they did not believe that he has the talent level to eventually possibly start for you at some point in the future, especially at a slow developing position like QB.
 
If you take the best player available, and that turns out to be a qb, then that's great, but need has to also line up with opportunity. Otherwise you end up drafting a QB and gaining nothing.

Who is to say that the Cowboys have been neglecting anything? We wanted and needed a running back last year, and didn't take one in the draft. The problem was that need didn't line up with available talent so we passed on several running backs, in part, because a better player was on the board at another position when we picked.

It would be nice if we are perceived to not need another QB because of Romo and Dak, and have a can't miss QB prospect fall in our laps, and we take him. Acquiring overall talent generally means more wins over time.
Yep.

" falling in our lap" is a fair description. While we had been looking at Dak all of the way I don't believe we ever thought going in he was our heir apparent .

Hopeful in time of course but we didn't pass on others ahead of him because we liked Dak more. Backup QB just wasn't as high of priority in draft for us. And we definitely didn't have the mindset this was going to be our heir apparent .
 
I agree.

The point is I don't believe we were drafting specifically for our heir apparent .


Yes, sometimes God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers. What if we missed swinging and missing on Goff, Wentz, Lynch and Cook and got Dak as a consolaton prize and Dak turns out to be the best of the bunch, by far? We are due a stroke of luck at some point.
 
Yep.

" falling in our lap" is a fair description. While we had been looking at Dak all of the way I don't believe we ever thought going in he was our heir apparent .

Hopeful in time of course but we didn't pass on others ahead of him because we liked Dak more. Backup QB just wasn't as high of priority in draft for us. And we definitely didn't have the mindset this was going to be our heir apparent .


Yes. You are correct, sir! We drafted Dak to only be the backup! Far be it from the Cowboys to draft a player hoping he would pan out! That's forward thinking!
 
No one ever "expects" that sort of production in a players first preseason game, even from a can't miss like Andrew Luck. However, I don't know why anyone would ever draft a player if they did not believe that he has the talent level to eventually possibly start for you at some point in the future, especially at a slow developing position like QB.
Do you believe in 2009 when we drafted McGee in 4th rd we expected to develop him into Romo's heir apparent?

I'm not saying they didn't believe Dak had the talent to develop to become a starter one day. I just don't believe they drafted him with the expectations we have after Saturday nite that he could be the heir apparent.
 
Do you believe in 2009 when we drafted McGee in 4th rd we expected to develop him into Romo's heir apparent?

I'm not saying they didn't believe Dak had the talent to develop to become a starter one day. I just don't believe they drafted him with the expectations we have after Saturday nite that he could be the heir apparent.


Unfortunately, yes, they drafted McGee with the thought that he could eventually develop into an eventual quality starter. Boy did we miss on that one.
 
On the other hand if Dak shows the Cowboys coaching staff enough that they have a certain level of comfort with the guy, I can't see them spending an early draft pick for a QB... I mean rounds 1, 2 or 3. Not with the other needs on the team like DE, CB, OT and WR.

I can agree that maybe the team doesn't spend a 1-3 on one if Prescott continues to play this way, although I wouldn't be opposed to it. Best-case scenario is that you end up with two starting-caliber QBs and are able to get back a higher pick down the road.
 
Furthermore, I'm certainly not going to give our front office credit for seeing that Dak after his performance may have been the best QB in the draft as some are appearing to assume because he had the best debut in a preseason game .

I recall in 1989 when Walsh was more impressive than Aikman in preseason and we all know how that turned out.

I'm very excited about Dak but not going to jump to conclusions about how brilliant our front office is or how poor the other QB in drafts could be.

For the moment enjoying what Dak could mean to our team now and moving forward .
 
Unfortunately, yes, they drafted McGee with the thought that he could eventually develop into an eventual quality starter. Boy did we miss on that one.
Romo was only in his third season as a starter. When exactly was McGee going to take over?

Or were we developing him to eventually be a starter elsewhere?
 
Do you believe in 2009 when we drafted McGee in 4th rd we expected to develop him into Romo's heir apparent?

I'm not saying they didn't believe Dak had the talent to develop to become a starter one day. I just don't believe they drafted him with the expectations we have after Saturday nite that he could be the heir apparent.

Based on the leaked draft board, the Cowboys had a mid-4th round grade on Dak. They took him with a compensatory 4th round pick, which is basically a glorified 5th round pick. That tells me they viewed him as a long shot to be the heir apparent.
 
If you take the best player available, and that turns out to be a qb, then that's great, but need has to also line up with opportunity. Otherwise you end up drafting a QB and gaining nothing.

Who is to say that the Cowboys have been neglecting anything? We wanted and needed a running back last year, and didn't take one in the draft. The problem was that need didn't line up with available talent so we passed on several running backs, in part, because a better player was on the board at another position when we picked.

It would be nice if we are perceived to not need another QB because of Romo and Dak, and have a can't miss QB prospect fall in our laps, and we take him. Acquiring overall talent generally means more wins over time.

I disagree with you assessment. Dallas was stubborn about not drafting a running back last year and passed up opportunity after opportunity in a running back deep draft. If the team had done what was logical, it likely could have spent that early first-round pick this year on another position of need.

They neglected it and cycled through running backs last year because of it, being fortunate that McFadden didn't end up following his injury history.

Was Gregory with his drug history a better pick than Tevin Coleman would have been? Or David Johnson? We went for the risk rather than taking advantage of the depth of the RB class.

The draft is equal parts drafting the best player available and picking the player who best fits your needs. Dallas didn't draft Prescott because he was the better than any other player available at that point this year. The team took him because it was set on drafting a QB and his value equaled the range of the pick.

If they go into the 2016 draft with the same plan, then at some point, the value and the position will line up. If your mind-set is we're going to take a QB in this draft, then that desire and the value will match at some point. In the past, it hasn't been Dallas mind-set to get a QB,

In 2014, if it had been, then maybe we have Derek Carr in the fold. Now, I'm happy to have DeMarcus Lawrence, but there would have been nothing wrong with Dallas having a QB mind-set there and taking advantage of that opportunity (and who knows how 2015 would have turned out if they had). Or maybe if we had had a QB mind-set we end up with AJ McCarron instead of Devin Street in that draft.

In other words, there is always opportunity, but the team has to be oriented to take advantage of it.
 
Wow, I have read some rants on here, but this has to be the most ridiculous, overly positive rant I have EVER head on here. You cant be serious with this. EVERY pick is a winner and Zak could be our future? All after one week of training camp. You would be better off calling this one................."REALLY REALLY BOLD PREDICTIONS" :yourock:

You forgot Benson Mayowa.. he's going to be a pro bowler too apparently.
 
You forgot Benson Mayowa.. he's going to be a pro bowler too apparently.

Everyone that came here from another team stunk when they were there, but is going to be great here. And everyone no long here was great while they were here and will stink in for their new team.
 
You forgot Benson Mayowa.. he's going to be a pro bowler too apparently.

I want to know where I stated that every pick was a probowler? Saying Malik Collins looks like he will be a nice rotation guy isn't exactly anointing him and everyone else to the probowl. Is it. People need to stop being such haters on this board because the Cowboys didn't draft what the cbs rankings had.
 
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I very excited about Dak but if he turns out to be Romo's heir apparent it's more of an accident than designed plan .
An accident? How so?

The Cowboys used their highest draft pick in the last 7 years on a QB and now it's an accident?
 
I very excited about Dak but if he turns out to be Romo's heir apparent it's more of an accident than designed plan .

In the 4th rd the Cowboys were basically just looking for a better or more talented backup than Moore they could develop.

pretty sure he was the back-up plan if they could not trade up for Lynch. No accident in trusting your draft board.
 
I want to know where I stated that every pick was a probowler? Saying Malik Collins looks like he will be a nice rotation guy isn't exactly anointing him and everyone else to the probowl. Is it. People need to stop being such haters on this board because the Cowboys didn't draft what the cbs rankings had.

I didn't say you said he'd be a pro bowler, I don't see anyplace in my post that says that. In fact, you didn't even mention him, I did because everyone here is excited like he's the answer at D line, even though he hasn't played a down yet.

and I will say this about your list, it's full of ifs, ands and buts.
I get hoping for the best, but c'mon man, that's a little extreme.

I love everything I here about him. He looks the part. He has great leadership qualities. Great build, can move, big hands. I am very excited for him, our future and quite possibly the present should Romo go down. This draft class has a chance to go down as one of our all time best drafts.

1. As long as Zeke allegations are false and he is anywhere near the hype, we will have a great player.
2. If Jaylons nerve comes back add another top 5 pick.
3. Collins can give us a nice rotation guy with quickness to rush the passer.
4. Tapper might just be the consistent edge rusher we need/ed.
5. Dak may just be our future. Possible steal here.
6. Brown is looking good at corner. Speed, athleticism and size are always a good start to making a CB.
7. Darius Jackson is one of my favorite picks of the draft. SLEEPER!
 
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I didn't say you said he'd be a pro bowler, I don't see anyplace in my post that says that. In fact, you didn't even mention him, I did because everyone here is excited like he's the answer at D line, even though he hasn't played a down yet.

and I will say this about your list, it's full of ifs, ands and buts.
I get hoping for the best, but c'mon man, that's a little extreme.


Wow, I have read some rants on here, but this has to be the most ridiculous, overly positive rant I have EVER head on here. You cant be serious with this. EVERY pick is a winner and Zak could be our future? All after one week of training camp. You would be better off calling this one................."REALLY REALLY BOLD PREDICTIONS" :yourock:
You forgot Benson Mayowa.. he's going to be a pro bowler too apparently.

and any list is made of ifs ands or buts. I just like ours better because we have some real hits. I usually am not a big fan of our drafts but I am of this one and for good reason. You will see soon.
 
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