All22 review Jonathan Cooper

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I reviewed all of his snaps from week 16 (Chargers) and week 14 (Bengals).

Overall he looked really good. He is strong and athletic and knows how to play the position.

There are some areas where he needs polish. On pulls he shows really good speed to get to the defender but he tends to be out of control when he gets there. There were a couple of snaps where his reaction was slightly delayed but that happens to most OL on occasion.

He showed the strength and quickness to deal with defenders one on one in both pass and run blocking. He was really good about help blocking the Center and then kicking over to help the OT or vice-versa which showed both good feet and awareness.

He looked much better than I expected considering that he keeps getting cut.

I didn't focus too much on the other side of the line, but the guy they had at LG (Cooper was at RG) didn't appear to be as good a Cooper. Their other Guard is Alvin Bailey. I've reviewed him in the past when he was with Seattle and I'm not sure that he is better than Cooper.

My guess is that Cooper asked them to release him if he was not going to start in week 17.

From Cleveland's perspective, they have Alvin Bailey under contract through 2018 for 2M average. The guy that was playing LG is a rookie.
 
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I reviewed all of his snaps from week 16 (Chargers) and week 14 (Bengals).

Overall he looked really good. He is strong and athletic and knows how to play the position.

There are some areas where he needs polish. On pulls he shows really good speed to get to the defender but he tends to be out of control when he gets there. There were a couple of snaps where his reaction was slightly delayed but that happens to most OL on occasion.

He showed the strength and quickness to deal with defenders one on one in both pass and run blocking. He was really good about help blocking the Center and then kicking over to help the OT or vice-versa which showed both good feet and awareness.

He looked much better than I expected considering that he keeps getting cut.

I didn't focus too much on the other side of the line, but the guy they had at LG (Cooper was at RG) didn't appear to be as good a Cooper. Their other Guard is Alvin Bailey. I've reviewed him in the past when he was with Seattle and I'm not sure that he is better than Cooper.

My guess is that Cooper asked them to release him if he was not going to start in week 17.

From Cleveland's perspective, they have Alvin Bailey under contract through 2018 for 2M average. The guy that was playing LG is a rookie.

I believe I read that Cleveland would be docked a late round compensatory pick if they kept Cooper for one more game. May explain why they cut him.
 

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I believe I read that Cleveland would be docked a late round compensatory pick if they kept Cooper for one more game. May explain why they cut him.
Interesting.

They claimed him on waivers from the Patriots so I don't know why they would lose a comp pick.
 

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Hmm.

If I believe there isn't something hidden in the smoke. The situation would have to be the following:

  • Three years of injury plagued seasons, gets him and a 2rd round pick traded to the Patriots for a very good LB. (makes sense)
  • Injured again with Patriots, but mental issues about his injuries, never allows himself to recover and no shot at starting. (Patriots release him)
  • Browns pick up him on waivers. He was told he wasn't going to start week 17 for Browns, asked to be released. Will be a FA next season anyhow and wasn't going to play for the Browns anyhow.
  • He possibly signs with the Cowboys due to their all-world OL and the possibility of starting since he is far smarter than dumb*** Collins. Possibly, but not completely likely. Collins moves to RT if the Cowboys decide not to re-sign Free.
 

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I know they LOVED him coming out in the draft. They can still work a longer deal if they want to right now, but they had to get him signed quick for the playoffs. Good backup for sure.

As it is, they can now get a 2018 comp pick for him if he's signs elsewhere. Good move.
 

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I am bummed they didnt sign him for atleast 2 years, now we will be stuck with Looney as a backup.
It is odd that they signed him just for the playoffs.

I don't think there will be any big offers for him from other teams so the Cowboys could try to sign him this off-season.
 

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I reviewed all of his snaps from week 16 (Chargers) and week 14 (Bengals).

Overall he looked really good. He is strong and athletic and knows how to play the position.

There are some areas where he needs polish. On pulls he shows really good speed to get to the defender but he tends to be out of control when he gets there. There were a couple of snaps where his reaction was slightly delayed but that happens to most OL on occasion.

He showed the strength and quickness to deal with defenders one on one in both pass and run blocking. He was really good about help blocking the Center and then kicking over to help the OT or vice-versa which showed both good feet and awareness.

He looked much better than I expected considering that he keeps getting cut.

I didn't focus too much on the other side of the line, but the guy they had at LG (Cooper was at RG) didn't appear to be as good a Cooper. Their other Guard is Alvin Bailey. I've reviewed him in the past when he was with Seattle and I'm not sure that he is better than Cooper.

My guess is that Cooper asked them to release him if he was not going to start in week 17.

From Cleveland's perspective, they have Alvin Bailey under contract through 2018 for 2M average. The guy that was playing LG is a rookie.

Thanks for taking the time and sharing.
 

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I reviewed all of his snaps from week 16 (Chargers) and week 14 (Bengals).

Overall he looked really good. He is strong and athletic and knows how to play the position.

There are some areas where he needs polish. On pulls he shows really good speed to get to the defender but he tends to be out of control when he gets there. There were a couple of snaps where his reaction was slightly delayed but that happens to most OL on occasion.

He showed the strength and quickness to deal with defenders one on one in both pass and run blocking. He was really good about help blocking the Center and then kicking over to help the OT or vice-versa which showed both good feet and awareness.

He looked much better than I expected considering that he keeps getting cut.

I didn't focus too much on the other side of the line, but the guy they had at LG (Cooper was at RG) didn't appear to be as good a Cooper. Their other Guard is Alvin Bailey. I've reviewed him in the past when he was with Seattle and I'm not sure that he is better than Cooper.

My guess is that Cooper asked them to release him if he was not going to start in week 17.

From Cleveland's perspective, they have Alvin Bailey under contract through 2018 for 2M average. The guy that was playing LG is a rookie.
I only watched the browns hilights of the games he played and thought he looked good too
 

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I have a hard time believing both the Cardinals and Patriots missed on this guy after having him in camp as long as they did, but you never know, I guess. Why CLE would let him go if he had anything at all is beyond me.

I thought he was going to be really good coming out, though. He's not a guy I'd have taken a look at at this point, but they apparently liked him enough to give him another shot. We'll see what happens.
 

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It is odd that they signed him just for the playoffs.

I don't think there will be any big offers for him from other teams so the Cowboys could try to sign him this off-season.

I wish it was a longer term deal, but I'll take what I can get and accentuate the positives at this point. This could be a steal.
 

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I only watched the browns hilights of the games he played and thought he looked good too

I posted a PFF grade in one of the threads where they had him rated as the best guard for that week (may have been week 14). People can have their opinions of those rankings, and that's fine, I do too, but having anybody rank you as the best at your position league wide for even that one week can't be anything but a good thing.

Yeah, here it is.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-best-player-at-every-position-in-nfl-week-14/
 

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It is odd that they signed him just for the playoffs.

I don't think there will be any big offers for him from other teams so the Cowboys could try to sign him this off-season.

He probably refused. He probably wants a shot at starting next season. Remember, the Cowboys have Collins, Leary, Free, and Green with shots at starting next year (if resigned where necessary)

Free and Leary are free agents next season. If the Cowboys do not re-sign either, this leaves a big possibility that Cooper could have a chance at starting next season. (providing Green doesn't take Free's job and Collins stays at guard replacing Leary) Of course, Collins lacks a bit between the ears and a talented smart player can easily out play a talented dimwit like Collins...that is IF he can get over his injury and mental issues.
 
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He probably refused. He probably wants a shot at starting next season. Remember, the Cowboys have Collins, Leary, Free, and Green with shots at starting next year (if resigned where necessary)

Free and Leary are free agents next season. If the Cowboys do not re-sign either, this leaves a big possibility that Cooper could have a chance at starting next season. (providing Green doesn't take Free's job and Collins stays at guard replacing Leary) Of course, Collins lacks a bit between the ears and a talented smart player can easily out play a talented dimwit like Collins...that is IF he can get over his injury and mental issues.
I think Free is signed for next year
 

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I have a hard time believing both the Cardinals and Patriots missed on this guy after having him in camp as long as they did, but you never know, I guess. Why CLE would let him go if he had anything at all is beyond me.

I thought he was going to be really good coming out, though. He's not a guy I'd have taken a look at at this point, but they apparently liked him enough to give him another shot. We'll see what happens.
It does make you wonder if he has a personality issue. There were injury issues with the Cardinals and Patriots. It was only 1 game for the Browns and they were going to give Bailey the start because he was back from suspension. Since Cooper was an upcoming free agent, the Browns didn't really have much to lose by releasing him.
 

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It is odd that they signed him just for the playoffs.

I don't think there will be any big offers for him from other teams so the Cowboys could try to sign him this off-season.

From DC.com...take it for what its worth...They signed him for the playoffs and he only gets playoff money. The Cowboys are
basically getting a free look with no CAP ramifications. This is a good deal to look at a former high draft pick who seems to
have busted on 3 teams. The boys get a comp pick in 2018 if he signs somewhere else this year. What's not to like.
 
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