TLH: Do the Dallas Cowboys miss Tony Romo?

[dfense]

Passive aggressive hateing on Dak is all this is about. Dak did in his first year what Romo did in his best year, only better. How can we miss Romo when we have better?

Ok, now you're just being silly.
Are we talking overall wins? Because Romo went 13-3 in 2007 12-4 in 2014 won the passer rating title.
Romo's worst year starting at least 15 games. He threw more TD's than Dak.

Romo was a much better QB at this point in Dak's career. Sorry, I want Dak to make me forget about Tony. But he's off to a subpar start and he's got some big shoes to fill.

Oh, and factor in Dak STILL has not thrown a TD in the last 2 minutes of any game yet.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I loved Tony but DO NOT miss is chronic back issues and propensity for huge errors. Is he more of a gunslinger? Yes but that comes at a price. The bottom line is fair or not, his era and everything that came with it, produced 2 playoff wins in a decade. I'm more than ready to move on.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Ok, now you're just being silly.
Are we talking overall wins? Because Romo went 13-3 in 2007 12-4 in 2014 won the passer rating title.
Romo's worst year starting at least 15 games. He threw more TD's than Dak.

Romo was a much better QB at this point in Dak's career. Sorry, I want Dak to make me forget about Tony. But he's off to a subpar start and he's got some big shoes to fill.

Romo didn't start until his 4th year in the league so no Dak is ahead of him so far. If you're talking about being a starter than so be it but Tony sat during the first few years.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I loved Tony but DO NOT miss is chronic back issues and propensity for huge errors. Is he more of a gunslinger? Yes but that comes at a price. The bottom line is fair or not, his era and everything that came with it, produced 2 playoff wins in a decade. I'm more than ready to move on.

That's pretty much how I feel. I liked Tony. He was a great QB but there was more than a few times I wanted to throw something at my TV when he would throw an interception. That's old news now because that Romo isn't even around anymore.

 

[mattjames2010]

Tony made his mistakes, but he didn't go noodle arm throwing 10 yard routes like Dak does far too often.

 

[dfense]

Romo didn't start until his 4th year in the league so no Dak is ahead of him so far. If you're talking about being a starter than so be it but Tony sat during the first few years.

I worded that wrong. I mean at this point in Dak's career, he's not better than Tony. As has been suggested.

 

[Vtwin]

Being a huge Romo fan and understanding that it's time to move on are not mutually exclusive. I feel very strongly about both.

Do Cowboys fans miss Aikman? Sure. What in the world is the point in even discussing it? It's over and done with.

What is the point of discussing it?

Well, I suppose technically there is no point. Just like technically there is no point in us discussing anything related to the Cowboys. Not one discussion had here means a damn thing in the big picture.

Yet discussion after discussion happens. For some reason though, certain topics are forbidden by certain members. Dez can be compared to Irvin. Elliott to Smith. Etc. Etc.

But compared Dak to Tony and the face palms come out in full force.

The two questions I have for the face palm brigade:

1: What is the big problem with comparing current and past QB's and how their contrasting skill sets may impact the current team?

2: If one really doesn't want to engage or even see this type of discussion why does one go through the manual process required before on can even see the discussion?

You can literally ignore it by doing absolutely nothing.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

That's pretty much how I feel. I liked Tony. He was a great QB but there was more than a few times I wanted to throw something at my TV when he would throw an interception. That's old news now because that Romo isn't even around anymore.

Precisely ... he did some bonehead stuff man. There's no way to argue it. The people that can't let go of Romo seem to throw out all of the bad, kinda like a guy not over his ex. I like the way he pushes the ball down the field. The one drive vs Philly made me reminisce a little. I love Tony's aggression but I like the new direction more and it was time. I like Dak's strength, mobility and intelligence. You can't ask for too much more from a 4th rounder. The guy has been sensational. #3 In QBR last year behind only Brady and MVP Ryan. In a way, Dak has been his worst enemy because he's set his own bar so high. I'm looking forward to his progression.

 

[IheartRomo]

I worded that wrong. I mean at this point in Dak's career, he's not better than Tony. As has been suggested.

Anyone claiming current Dak is better than prime Romo is out of their mind. However, Dak today is better than Tony today - if for no reason other than ability to stay on the field.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Tony made his mistakes, but he didn't go noodle arm throwing 10 yard routes like Dak does far too often.

Where did Tony get us? That's what this all comes down to.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Anyone claiming current Dak is better than prime Romo is out of their mind. However, Dak today is better than Tony today - if for no reason other than ability to stay on the field.

Says the guy with the handle "IheartRomo"... I love it man...

 

[IheartRomo]

What is the point of discussing it?

Well, I suppose technically there is no point. Just like technically there is no point in us discussing anything related to the Cowboys. Not one discussion had here means a damn thing in the big picture.

Yet discussion after discussion happens. For some reason though, certain topics are forbidden by certain members. Dez can be compared to Irvin. Elliott to Smith. Etc. Etc.

But compared Dak to Tony and the face palms come out in full force.

The two questions I have for the face palm brigade:

1: What is the big problem with comparing current and past QB's and how their contrasting skill sets may impact the current team?

2: If one really doesn't want to engage or even see this type of discussion why does one go through the manual process required before on can even see the discussion?

You can literally ignore it by doing absolutely nothing.

Nothing whatsoever is wrong with comparing player X to player Y. But as I've said a bunch of times now in this thread, I think there's a huge difference between comparing Dak's career to Tony's career and comparing current Dak to prime Tony.

People continue to assume that we'd be better off with Tony, thinking that we'd just plug prime Romo in and roll. That version was, has been, and will forever continue to be gone.

Let's compare Dak's year 2 progression to Tony's early career, let's compare their careers overall - all for it. But why act like we'd plug prime Romo into the 2017 Cowboys? Might as well do the same with prime Aikman and Staubach too.

 

[noshame]

Romo who?

In a few years I'll have the same memory of Tony Romo as I do Danny White.
A good Cowboys quarterback who could be a superstar 1 minute and mess the bed the next.

And when he finally started getting over messing the bed he injured his back.

Sad really what time for the next era.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I don't know if the Cowboys do. I do.

 

[mattjames2010]

Where did Tony get us? That's what this all comes down to.

Team sport, now isn't it?

You think a healthy Romo wouldn't have played well last season? We had a similar offense in 2014. Romo at least won a playoff game.

It's time to get a grip. Dak has far too many problems, some that won't be fixed, to ever put this team on his shoulders. He's an Alex Smith, and it was laughable people said he's the "next Tom Brady"

 

[IheartRomo]

Team sport, now isn't it?

You think a healthy Romo wouldn't have played well last season? We had a similar offense in 2014. Romo at least won a playoff game.

It's time to get a grip. Dak has far too many problems, some that won't be fixed, to ever put this team on his shoulders. He's an Alex Smith, and it was laughable people said he's the "next Tom Brady"

Of course a hypothetical healthy Romo would have played well. A hypothetical healthy Romo would likely play well through his early 40s.

But when you bring reality into the equation, Romo hadn't finished consecutive games uninjured since 2014. An all-world injured quarterback is no more useful to the team on the field than an awful quarterback.

 

[mattjames2010]

Of course a hypothetical healthy Romo would have played well. A hypothetical healthy Romo would likely play well through his early 40s.

But when you bring reality into the equation, Romo hadn't finished consecutive games uninjured since 2014. An all-world injured quarterback is no more useful to the team on the field than an awful quarterback.

I'm not advocating bringing Romo back - I'm simply stating, Dak isn't what most of you made him out to be last year. If Dak doesn't make a leap at some point this season, there is a serious discussion to be had on drafting a QB early. He is only a 4th round pick, he can be replaced if he doesn't take the next step.

 

[IheartRomo]

I'm not advocating bringing Romo back - I'm simply stating, Dak isn't what most of you made him out to be last year. If Dak doesn't make a leap at some point this season, there is a serious discussion to be had on drafting a QB early. He is only a 4th round pick, he can be replaced if he doesn't take the next step.

Very fair. I would suggest, however, that when looking at his entire performance history (19 games, including a stellar playoff game), the argument cannot be made that he's not in a wonderful progression for a rookie + 2 games. If the basis for having found the right guy was Aaron Rodgers by the rookie year + 2, then every team in NFL history would be tossing aside their starter and drafting a new QB each year.

To not give a QB that has shown as many positive signs (and that's an understatement) as Dak has time to develop would be ludicrous.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I miss Staubach....

Once in a lifetime player Mojo.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ok, now you're just being silly.
Are we talking overall wins? Because Romo went 13-3 in 2007 12-4 in 2014 won the passer rating title.
Romo's worst year starting at least 15 games. He threw more TD's than Dak.

Romo was a much better QB at this point in Dak's career. Sorry, I want Dak to make me forget about Tony. But he's off to a subpar start and he's got some big shoes to fill.

Oh, and factor in Dak STILL has not thrown a TD in the last 2 minutes of any game yet.

I don't think it's fair to compare Tony to Dak in this fashion. Tony sat behind some pretty crappy QBs when he came into the League. Dak is starting day one. Tony had a chance to sit and learn under one of the greatest Head Coaches in the history of the game. Dak is learning behind a guy that is widely discussed, on this board, as not very good. The situations are very different and you can't compare the two. You don't even compare the prior season where Tony actually became the starter. He was much closer to 500 in those games. You gotta be fair.