Aikman: "why do you throw that pass when Zeke just ran the ball for 8yds?"

[Bleu Star]

LOL.

Who gave him the RPO?

Did Dak just make it up on his own? Like in Rudy when Devine called a run to run out the clock and the QB ignored his play call and decided to call a half back pass to score a TD to get Rudy on the field?

These folks are going to extremes to protect the horrible situational awareness by our coaching staff. There's obviously. An emotional connection to the current staff. That's the only explanation.

 

[Sydla]

Or taking a sack and risking a turnover trying to throw said pass.

Well in fairness to that, you'd like to hope you can get a fade pass off before getting sacked.

To me, it's simply understanding the game situation. You spent the entire drive with keen awareness that you wanted to limit the time Rodgers has left to mount a drive. And then when you are almost at the very end of pulling off a great drive that accomplishes your goal, the coaches get dumb and put in a play that allows the QB to throw a low percentage fade pattern that likely will be incomplete and result in giving the Packers what they desperately wanted - a stopped clock.

 

[Bleu Star]

You have an 8 year vet head coach on the sideline and an experienced OC. They should know the game situation there.

Blaming this on Dak is just soooo typical from people.

Yup. Typical shifting of the narrative to protect yes guy & crew.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

You have an 8 year vet head coach on the sideline and an experienced OC. They should know the game situation there.

Blaming this on Dak is just soooo typical from people.

He still hasn’t recovered from the fact that Romo is not coming back

 

[NextGenBoys]

So don't try and score unless there is under 90 seconds? 60 seconds? 10 seconds? What if there is a penalty? Or a sack? or we're stuffed for no gain? Or we move backwards? I understand if all we needed was a fg. But when you have to score a TD you have to go out and try and score. Dez in single coverage in the Red Zone is a play and situation you take. It's simply not practical to say we aren't going to go for the potential game winning TD right here because there is 90 seconds on the clock and it's too much time.

People are so results oriented and emotional.

You are overly complicating this to try and make your point, and you don't coach or play scared of every possible negative outcome. You are also using your example in a vacuum, but the context of the situation easily shows that we scored too fast and gave Rodgers too much time against our abysmal defense.

In the context that we're talking about, you don't pass the ball. You have a 1st and 10 from the 19 with 2 minutes left. You then ran the ball for 8/9 yards on 1st down, setting up a 2nd and 1 or 2. I'm pretty sure Dak snapped the ball with 10 sec left, that is error number 1. Error number 2 is calling a RPO. There isn't an exact time you need to score at, but you minimize the other teams chances of winning the game.

We weren't up against the clock, GB was. If it was me, I'm not calling a pass play until there are under 30 seconds left.

They apparently didn't learn anything from the playoff loss last year. Situational football failure.

 

[Bleu Star]

Well in fairness to that, you'd like to hope you can get a fade pass off before getting sacked.

To me, it's simply understanding the game situation. You spent the entire drive with keen awareness that you wanted to limit the time Rodgers has left to mount a drive. And then when you are almost at the very end of pulling off a great drive that accomplishes your goal, the coaches get dumb and put in a play that allows the QB to throw a low percentage fade pattern that likely will be incomplete and result in giving the Packers what they desperately wanted - a stopped clock.

It's all fairly simply to me. I don't see why we have anyone opposing the obvious.. But I guess that's why they call this a forum.

Pass

Pros: None

Cons:

1. Incomplete pass provides GB a free timeout.
2. Sack completely breaks our momentum.
3. Sack fumble ends our chances period.

Run
Pros:

1. You have two opportunities to dive for the 1st down and make them use their last time out.
2. You gain complete control of the clock inside their 10 with about a minute left.
3. You then have three opportunities with two timeouts to ram it down their throats and potentially leave single digits on the clock.
4. You have fun watching Aaron & crew run around on a last play like a circus crew (kinda like we ended up doing....)

Cons: None

 

[Jake]

17 pages and counting.

 

[Stash]

I just disagree. If the rather simple catch is made, this isn't even a conversation today.

How so? Please explain.

How does scoring there and leaving the same amount of time or more on the clock affect what Rodgers and the Packers are able to do?

 

[TheHerd]

Well in fairness to that, you'd like to hope you can get a fade pass off before getting sacked.

To me, it's simply understanding the game situation. You spent the entire drive with keen awareness that you wanted to limit the time Rodgers has left to mount a drive. And then when you are almost at the very end of pulling off a great drive that accomplishes your goal, the coaches get dumb and put in a play that allows the QB to throw a low percentage fade pattern that likely will be incomplete and result in giving the Packers what they desperately wanted - a stopped clock.

This is what I can't understand. Yes, it was unlikely we'd be able to mount a 10 minute drive to ice the game. But they did it. The OL finally stood up and asserted themselves. Zeke was Zeke. The tumblers were all falling into place. Three plays away from a drive that would define and potentially redirect the season. Then the folly of the Cowboys comes through. Just kidding fellas, here ya go, you can have the game.

And YES, we'd be saying the same thing if Dez had caught the pass, because we'd STILL have lost the game. I could be mistaken, but I thought that winning was the ultimate objective.

 

[NextGenBoys]

It's all fairly simply to me. I don't see why we have anyone opposing the obvious.. But I guess that's why they call this a forum.

Pass

Pros: None

Cons:

1. Incomplete pass provides GB a free timeout.
2. Sack completely breaks our momentum.
3. Sack fumble ends our chances period.

Run
Pros:

1. You have two opportunities to dive for the 1st down and make them use their last time out.
2. You gain complete control of the clock inside their 10 with about a minute left.
3. You then have three opportunities with two timeouts to ram it down their throats and potentially leave single digits on the clock.
4. You have fun watching Aaron & crew run around on a last play like a circus crew (kinda like we ended up doing....)

Cons: None

It's really, REALLY bad when fans have better time management than a head coach.

 

[erod]

You have an 8 year vet head coach on the sideline and an experienced OC. They should know the game situation there.

Blaming this on Dak is just soooo typical from people.

It's HIS option.

It looked like Green Bay let us score anyway to preserve time for Rodgers.

 

[Sydla]

It's HIS option.

It looked like Green Bay let us score anyway to preserve time for Rodgers.

The coaches should never have given him the option.

That's the point. How can't you grasp that concept?

 

[Coy]

Just so we don't cloud the message here... Garrett is the coach that oversees. If he knew (and he would have known........) that a RPO was called, it is incumbent upon him to step in and say WTH is going on. Timeout. Regroup. Run the ball. It's that simple. Now you tell me. What did he do?

Agreed, saying that, the QB can still make a decision on his own, Dak made the wrong one, am I wrong?

 

[Sydla]

Agreed, saying that, the QB can still make a decision on his own, Dak made the wrong one, am I wrong?

Yes. From a game situation standpoint, Dak probably made a wrong call. However, from a formation situation, he could have made the right call.......... but that's the problem with the coaches putting that call in. If they call a RPO in that situation it's basically telling the QB, especially a young one, to do what he would do at any point in the game......... read the formation/defense and make the call. So in that sense, Dak did what he was likely supposed to do.

Now maybe a seasoned vet like a Brady or Rodgers or Brees understands the situation and would override the coaches call and explain himself later, but in that moment, for a young QB, I think it's a lot to ask him to basically override the call the coaches gave him.

That pass is on the coaches plain and simple.

 

[Coy]

Yes. From a game situation standpoint, Dak probably made a wrong call. However, from a formation situation, he could have made the right call.......... but that's the problem with the coaches putting that call in. If they call a RPO in that situation it's basically telling the QB, especially a young one, to do what he would do at any point in the game......... read the formation/defense and make the call. So in that sense, Dak did what he was likely supposed to do.

Now maybe a seasoned vet like a Brady or Rodgers or Brees understands the situation and would override the coaches call and explain himself later, but in that moment, for a young QB, I think it's a lot to ask him to basically override the call the coaches gave him.

That pass is on the coaches plain and simple.

Good post, I blame this on Garrett, just pointing out that Dak made a wrong decision as well.

 

[CowboyGil]

Even if you decide to run it there, GB probably lets you score knowing they have #12 on the sideline. Don't try to be cute and run the clock down and risk REAL disaster by a fumbled snap or a strip or punch out. Just get the TD and hope your defense can get one stop.

 

[Coy]

Even if you decide to run it there, GB probably lets you score knowing they have #12 on the sideline. Don't try to be cute and run the clock down and risk REAL disaster by a fumbled snap or a strip or punch out. Just get the TD and hope your defense can get one stop.

Understand where are you coming from but the thing is, which are the better odds:

A) Score from goal to go with 1 minute remaining? Knowing you were moving the ball great against them.
B) ARod doesn't score with 1:14 and a TO left.

If you had to choose one situation, which one would you take?

I'll take A all day long.

 

[Bleu Star]

How so? Please explain.

How does scoring there and leaving the same amount of time or more on the clock affect what Rodgers and the Packers are able to do?

There's no depth to their answers. They just disagree.

 

[CowboyGil]

The drive ate up 7:43, and after they scored, Troy said "you have to take the TD there". Then Aaron Rodgers happened.

 

[Bleu Star]

Agreed, saying that, the QB can still make a decision on his own, Dak made the wrong one, am I wrong?

You never send a RPO call in. If you do in that situation, just go ahead & start combing the classifieds.