Source: NFLPA files for restraining order to again block Ezekiel Elliott suspension

[Ghost12]

Again you reduce it down to football when EE's legal team has clearly stated this case is bigger than football.

The same legal team made the same statements with Brady, and it didn't really work.

There's a reason they tried to keep Elliott out of CA2. Filing early in another district was a good idea and it worked for a while but ultimately failed. There is plenty of leeway to stall and delay for the remainder of this season but ultimately I am just not seeing a path to victory here. Elliott needs to decide what he wants.

 

[Ghost12]

Brady stopped appealing is why the NFL eventually got it's way with Brady. We aren't dealing with the 2nd CAC yet, we'll cross that road when we get to it.

As of today, we are dealing with a federal district court legally bound by the CA2 Brady ruling. Well, I suppose Elliott still has the CA5 en banc Hail Mary left, but that won't go anywhere and CA5 has made it clear they will not stay the suspension in the meantime.

 

[Broges74]

Zeke is a head case but, that in itself, isn't a reason to suspend him. Truth is the NFL is acting as if they can do whatever they like to whomever they like and it appears they're right...

 

[Ghost12]

Wasn't Elliott's request for an en banc rehearing approved?

I believe he has not yet filed a request for an en banc rehearing in CA5.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

The same legal team made the same statements with Brady, and it didn't really work.

There's a reason they tried to keep Elliott out of CA2. Filing early in another district was a good idea and it worked for a while but ultimately failed. There is plenty of leeway to stall and delay for the remainder of this season but ultimately I am just not seeing a path to victory here. Elliott needs to decide what he wants.

It was a bad decision by the court if you ask me. Sure it might have been premature back when it was filed, but it proved not to be. Up here in Canada, no appeal would be successful on that jurisdictional point. In any event, that is the way the US justice system worked in this case.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Zeke is a head case but, that in itself, isn't a reason to suspend him. Truth is the NFL is acting as if they can do whatever they like to whomever they like and it appears they're right...

I keep seeing this "Head Case" being thrown around like he's been clinically diagnosed, or has displayed any type of mental issues. But I can't find anything on the subject. Unless going to clubs, bars and being a 22 year old kid makes you a head case.

 

[Nightman]

As of today, we are dealing with a federal district court legally bound by the CA2 Brady ruling. Well, I suppose Elliott still has the CA5 en banc Hail Mary left, but that won't go anywhere and CA5 has made it clear they will not stay the suspension in the meantime.

He still gets his Court case at the District level first........if it gets to CA2 then they are just dealing with procedures and precedents.... the first Judge in the Brady case heard a lot of evidence AND ruled for Brady

Then it was 2-1 on the CA2 level........ not some kind of landslide....... and the cases are completely different anyways... the idea that they lost Brady means they can never win again is a stretch.... the NFL ran to NY because their case is weak and they were hoping for home-field advantage

 

[Sydla]

I believe he has not yet filed a request for an en banc rehearing in CA5.

There seems to be conflicting info on this. I saw a few articles that said they had issued the request other articles just seem to state that the NFLPA has publicly stated they will make that request.

In any case, it's likely a long shot anyway.

 

[Sydla]

I keep seeing this "Head Case" being thrown around like he's been clinically diagnosed, or has displayed any type of mental issues. But I can't find anything on the subject. Unless going to clubs, bars and being a 22 year old kid makes you a head case.

He's a knucklehead. Not in a clinical diagnosis way, but in a "I am a stupid early 20s kid" kind of way.

 

[CowboyStar88]

He's a knucklehead. Not in a clinical diagnosis way, but in a "I am a stupid early 20s kid" kind of way.

Which is the point I am making... Calling someone a head case is entirely different. Being a knucklehead is normal at that age. I was a knucklehead in my late teens early 20's. Went to plenty of bars, clubs and many fights. We spent many weekends in TJ etc... I will tell you nobody would ever call us "Head Cases".

 

[Bohuntr97]

There seems to be conflicting info on this. I saw a few articles that said they had issued the request other articles just seem to state that the NFLPA has publicly stated they will make that request.

In any case, it's likely a long shot anyway.

I believe they filed a motion to recall (in front of the same 3 judges) which was denied this morning. They can now file for the en blanc hearing if they choose.

 

[Ghost12]

He still gets his Court case at the District level first........if it gets to CA2 then they are just dealing with procedures and precedents.... the first Judge in the Brady case heard a lot of evidence AND ruled for Brady

True, but that judge was not bound by the CA2 ruling on Brady because that ruling didn't exist yet.

Then it was 2-1 on the CA2 level........ not some kind of landslide....... and the cases are completely different anyways...

Problem is they are not completely different. If you read the filings, the key NFLPA points are virtually identical: Fundamental fairness of the proceedings and the arbitrator's authority to compel or deny testimony. CA2 has already ruled on each of those points in the NFL's favor.

the idea that they lost Brady means they can never win again is a stretch.... the NFL ran to NY because their case is weak and they were hoping for home-field advantage

The NFL "ran to NY" because binding precedent in that district is the Brady ruling.

 

[Sydla]

Which is the point I am making... Calling someone a head case is entirely different. Being a knucklehead is normal at that age. I was a knucklehead in my late teens early 20's. Went to plenty of bars, clubs and many fights. We spent many weekends in TJ etc... I will tell you nobody would ever call us "Head Cases".

I think when he called him a head case he meant just that. He's immature and makes some dumb off the field decisions that he needs to stop doing.

And no, and I don't know why people say this, being a knucklehead at that age is not normal. I mean if it were normal how come guys like Romo, Witten, Martin, Tyron Smith, Sean Lee, etc. didn't have similar problems at that age? There are tons of early 20s kids who go out, have fun at bars and clubs and that's it......... they don't get in bar fights or pull girl's tops down in public, etc.

It's not normal behavior. It's not deviant behavior either, like some try to make it out to be (like calling the incident of pulling a top down sexual assault) but it's certainly not normal, especially for a kid who knows the limelight is going to be on him all the time.

 

[Pokes12]

He still gets his Court case at the District level first........if it gets to CA2 then they are just dealing with procedures and precedents.... the first Judge in the Brady case heard a lot of evidence AND ruled for Brady

Then it was 2-1 on the CA2 level........ not some kind of landslide....... and the cases are completely different anyways... the idea that they lost Brady means they can never win again is a stretch.... the NFL ran to NY because their case is weak and they were hoping for home-field advantage

"anyways" is not a word in the English language.

 

[Nightman]

True, but that judge was not bound by the CA2 ruling on Brady because that ruling didn't exist yet.
Problem is they are not completely different. If you read the filings, the key NFLPA points are virtually identical: Fundamental fairness of the proceedings and the arbitrator's authority to compel or deny testimony. CA2 has already ruled on each of those points in the NFL's favor.

The NFL "ran to NY" because binding precedent in that district is the Brady ruling.

They ran to NY in the Brady case first for the same reason and the cases are completely different

Brady was arguing that the punishments weren't clearly explained before hand, that is was a simple equipment violation and other similar cases got monetary fines only

Zeke is saying he was railroaded by the process and wasn't allowed to even present a fair case.....something Brady never offered... Zeke is claiming they hid evidence and didn't allow him to call necessary witnesses...... not that the NFL doesn't have the right to punish him or similar cases got less because there are no similar cases....... no one has been suspended without charges or an admission before

 

[CowboyStar88]

I think when he called him a head case he meant just that. He's immature and makes some dumb off the field decisions that he needs to stop doing.

And no, and I don't know why people say this, being a knucklehead at that age is not normal. I mean if it were normal how come guys like Romo, Witten, Martin, Tyron Smith, Sean Lee, etc. didn't have similar problems at that age? There are tons of early 20s kids who go out, have fun at bars and clubs and that's it......... they don't get in bar fights or pull girl's tops down in public, etc.

It's not normal behavior. It's not deviant behavior either, like some try to make it out to be (like calling the incident of pulling a top down sexual assault) but it's certainly not normal, especially for a kid who knows the limelight is going to be on him all the time.

I have partied with Romo at Metal Skool back in the summer of 2005... Some people just hide it better that I can assure you. YES being a knucklehead is normal.

 

[Nightman]

"anyways" is not a word in the English language.

''you are a nerd anyways you look at it'' seems legit

 

[Ranching]

''you are a nerd anyways you look at it'' seems legit

How many ways can Goodell screw the Cowboys? Anyways he wants.

 

[Nightman]

How many ways can Goodell screw the Cowboys? Anyways he wants.

Sideways, backways, doggyways.......anyways he like

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I wish we would’ve taken Ramsey. He’s already a top 5 CB in the NFL.