Dak is a good Bus Driver but Needs a Good Supporting Cast

rwalters31

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The team doesn't need Zeke, period. The rushing yards was perfectly acceptable. The team doesn't need a top 3 QB period, Dak's performance was perfectly acceptable.

The team needs better OLine play, and good linebackers. Dallas looks fine with Tyron Smith at LT and Sean Lee at LB, but when they're out then they're out. If Zeke demands a lot of money then cut him, a good O-line and a decent RB will give you enough yards. Boost the defense, boost the o-line and you challenge imo.
Some good points. However, a great running back will cure a lot of evils.
 

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:facepalm: Oh God, how did I know this was coming? Dak has carried this team countless times.

Now now, you guys have to be consistent. If Dak gets all the credit for "leading" the team to wins since he's played, you have to give him all the blame for "leading" the team to a loss as well.

Thankfully, I never subscribed to such foolish ways of thinking and can recognize that there is no way to judge Dak on yesterday at all, except for maybe his running ability (which is still a strong and under utilized aspect of his game).
 

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I can see why stephen a. smith says what he says about cowboys fans. It's basic football that if your qb is getting sacked 8 times in a game, he's not going to look that great.

A lot of fans don't realize that other teams fans and outsiders in general don't hate this fan base because they are jealous or just haters, its because of majority of us behave like those stuck up, have to have everything my way high school females.

Sad but its true
 

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All this sounds so familiar! Dak got a taste of what the majority of Romo's career situation in Dallas was (outside of a few years, so please spare me). No pass protection, no run game, and piss poor defense, all held together with crappy coaching. He's a smart guy, hopefully he makes adjustments in his game, because the coach is not gonna do it.

Romo had MBarber and Murray. He had a run game.
 

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Dak is not a QB that can carry a team as shown today. This team revolves around Zeke period. It depends on a great 5 OL but only had 4 today and Dak eat dirt all afternoon. The Offense needs Zeke to get to the playoffs, oops, he is gone for 6 games. There is only one great player on Defense but he can not stay on the field due to injuries.

The Cowboys face a far better team in Philly next week. The season is as close to lose as you can get.

Go Cowboys
Well he is just in his second year, what you expect
 

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Romo had MBarber and Murray. He had a run game.

I never said he didn't have a run game, just for the majority of his career. Murray was good at the latter end of Romo's career, but he ran into an injury problem at that point and couldn't stay on the field. Also, Barber was good, beastly really, but I'm not sure he ever ran over 1000yds, dude got TDs and was nice in short yardage, though. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyways, my point was for the majority of his career.
 

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Dak is not a QB that can carry a team as shown today. This team revolves around Zeke period. It depends on a great 5 OL but only had 4 today and Dak eat dirt all afternoon. The Offense needs Zeke to get to the playoffs, oops, he is gone for 6 games. There is only one great player on Defense but he can not stay on the field due to injuries.

The Cowboys face a far better team in Philly next week. The season is as close to lose as you can get.

Go Cowboys
Oh please with the “look at me thread” hating on Dak.
 

PJTHEDOORS

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I never said he didn't have a run game, just for the majority of his career. Murray was good at the latter end of Romo's career, but he ran into an injury problem at that point and couldn't stay on the field. Also, Barber was good, beastly really, but I'm not sure he ever ran over 1000yds, dude got TDs and was nice in short yardage, though. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyways, my point was for the majority of his career.

Ok. We do know Romo had the Dez when Dez was a #1 reciever. When Dez would run routes and get separtion. And he had Witten. One of the, if not the best tight end in the league during Romo's career. All I am saying is, Romo had weapons. It wasn't Romo and no one else.
 

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Ok. We do know Romo had the Dez when Dez was a #1 reciever. When Dez would run routes and get separtion. And he had Witten. One of the, if not the best tight end in the league during Romo's career. All I am saying is, Romo had weapons. It wasn't Romo and no one else.

I never said Romo was all by himself. lol

Romo and Dak are also very different QBs. Romo throws a better back shoulder fade and is far more willing to throw a 50/50 ball to Dez and place it better. His style benefits Dez's style much better. Dak is more of a take what they give you guy and takes less risks. Both styles have pros and cons. Not even saying one is better than the other.
 

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If we are being truly honest with ourselves, we should all have known before now that Dak is much more of a cog in the wheel as opposed to the motor that keeps the wheel turning. Yesterday's loss was not solely on Dak's shoulders. There were definitely things he could've done better and he definitely did not get all the help he needed. His accuracy has never been pinpoint. He has a lot of intangibles and an ability to pick up yards with his feet. Green did him 0 favors and the defense did him no favors short of one turnover...

I think a lot of us want our QB to be the best player on the offense. Dak is not this. Dak doesn't play the way Romo did. Romo made receivers better by throwing into tight windows and taking chances that Dak doesn't have the accuracy or confidence to take.

Yesterday with a young Romo under center, does anyone believe he wouldn't have passed for more than 177 yards? He may very well have pressed and thrown some interceptions or he may have thrown for 300+ yards and 3 TDs. Romo was the motor that drove the offense back then because he was the best offensive player we had. The running game is what drives this team now because, frankly, the offensive line and Zeke are the best players on this offense; better than Dak is as a passer.

Again, this was not Dak's fault but nobody has a perfect team in the NFL. Few teams have great offensive lines. So much is overcoming what's around you. Dak does need support and we said the same thing about Romo all those seasons. I do think Dak needs more support than Romo did though.
 

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Dak is not a QB that can carry a team as shown today. This team revolves around Zeke period. It depends on a great 5 OL but only had 4 today and Dak eat dirt all afternoon. The Offense needs Zeke to get to the playoffs, oops, he is gone for 6 games. There is only one great player on Defense but he can not stay on the field due to injuries.

The Cowboys face a far better team in Philly next week. The season is as close to lose as you can get.

Go Cowboys

Can not properly judge Dak until that LT position is more secure.
 

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Give him a receiver that can get an inch of separation then get back to me.
 

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Ok. We do know Romo had the Dez when Dez was a #1 reciever. When Dez would run routes and get separtion. And he had Witten. One of the, if not the best tight end in the league during Romo's career. All I am saying is, Romo had weapons. It wasn't Romo and no one else.

Stop moving the goalposts...lol
 

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Says 31 other teams......dude you are off your rocker. What great QB becomes a great QB without a supporting cast AND coaching staff. Does anyone here realize this is a TEAM sport all the way up to an owner/GM/ president/ Grand Pooh Bah.....in Dallas' case.

Take a peek at the ongoings of Goff and his staff.......
 

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Dak is not a QB that can carry a team as shown today. This team revolves around Zeke period. It depends on a great 5 OL but only had 4 today and Dak eat dirt all afternoon. The Offense needs Zeke to get to the playoffs, oops, he is gone for 6 games. There is only one great player on Defense but he can not stay on the field due to injuries.

The Cowboys face a far better team in Philly next week. The season is as close to lose as you can get.

Go Cowboys


Lol what buffoonery.
 

rwalters31

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Lol what buffoonery.
There is a post just above this one that is one of the best I have seen. So the moral of this is that before you say "buffoonery" you should look in the mirror.
"If we are being truly honest with ourselves, we should all have known before now that Dak is much more of a cog in the wheel as opposed to the motor that keeps the wheel turning. Yesterday's loss was not solely on Dak's shoulders. There were definitely things he could've done better and he definitely did not get all the help he needed. His accuracy has never been pinpoint. He has a lot of intangibles and an ability to pick up yards with his feet. Green did him 0 favors and the defense did him no favors short of one turnover...

I think a lot of us want our QB to be the best player on the offense. Dak is not this. Dak doesn't play the way Romo did. Romo made receivers better by throwing into tight windows and taking chances that Dak doesn't have the accuracy or confidence to take.

Yesterday with a young Romo under center, does anyone believe he wouldn't have passed for more than 177 yards? He may very well have pressed and thrown some interceptions or he may have thrown for 300+ yards and 3 TDs. Romo was the motor that drove the offense back then because he was the best offensive player we had. The running game is what drives this team now because, frankly, the offensive line and Zeke are the best players on this offense; better than Dak is as a passer.

Again, this was not Dak's fault but nobody has a perfect team in the NFL. Few teams have great offensive lines. So much is overcoming what's around you. Dak does need support and we said the same thing about Romo all those seasons. I do think Dak needs more support than Romo did though."
 

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Now now, you guys have to be consistent. If Dak gets all the credit for "leading" the team to wins since he's played, you have to give him all the blame for "leading" the team to a loss as well.

Thankfully, I never subscribed to such foolish ways of thinking and can recognize that there is no way to judge Dak on yesterday at all, except for maybe his running ability (which is still a strong and under utilized aspect of his game).

Why does it have to be all or nothing based on a strawman? This idea that there is some method to evaluate any random game performance as you describe is just asinine.

You guys are trying real hard to backdoor your way into this deduction but the logic being used is ignorant. If you have some direct evidence or logic to present how he should have succeeded despite being under pressure hitting his back foot even on 3 step drops literally 3 out of 4 passes then please present it. Else it is not worth taking the above seriously.

If you want to bash Garrett for being pigheaded and not adjusting his protections to help a LT that was struggling mightily then fine but blaming a QB who gets literally 1 second to operate is a nonstarter.
 

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No QB could have done much of anything Sunday getting pounded into the ground like he did.
 

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Name one qb in the entire league that would've won that game for us today.. I'll wait.
Yep. Dak had a guy on his back the whole game . Lyle Collins wasn't as bad as Green but he sure had a guy pushing him back the entire game.
 
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