If Dak was to go 0-6 as a starter without Zeke will he look like a fraud?

Alexander

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It will just mean he needs a run game to support him.

That is not an indictment on him. Even a superior QB in Romo had his best career seasons when he had the run game to ease the pressure.

Going 0-6 might actually turn into the best thing for the franchise in the long run.

That would definitely cool some jets about Prescott's abilities, both inside the organization and out.

Like I said a week ago and everyone had an issue with it.

We will see what he is made of without Elliott and a threatening run game (not just an "efficient" one).

But then again, if Tyron Smith does not make it back, then the cry will be that you can't evaluate him without a LT.
 

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I mean there is no way he can be taken seriously as a starter if he can't win one game without zeke. True starters find a way to be successful even when players are missing in the lineup not just struggle until players come back. So for example, if pressure is coming from the left side again this week is he smart enough to play to his right side and throw pass to the middle or to the right? Or will he continue to stand in the pocket knowing their is pressure from one side? Being a NFL starter is more than just throwing the ball down the field. You also need to play smart and figure out what works well and read defenses

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I guess dak was responsible for not stopping the falcons on 3rd down
 

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This thread........

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If he needs his coaching staff to succeed then maybe, just maybe he is not who we thought he was

Uh this is true of every player ever, though.

How do you separate Montana from Walsh, Brady from Belichick, or Staubach from Landry? You need a good scheme to get the most out of talent.
 

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It will just mean he needs a run game to support him.

That is not an indictment on him. Even a superior QB in Romo had his best career seasons when he had the run game to ease the pressure.

Going 0-6 might actually turn into the best thing for the franchise in the long run.

That would definitely cool some jets about Prescott's abilities, both inside the organization and out.

Like I said a week ago and everyone had an issue with it.

We will see what he is made of without Elliott and a threatening run game (not just an "efficient" one).

But then again, if Tyron Smith does not make it back, then the cry will be that you can't evaluate him without a LT.


I seen QB perform with no skilled players around them


I guess dak was responsible for not stopping the falcons on 3rd down
Uh this is true of every player ever, though.

How do you separate Montana from Walsh, Brady from Belichick, or Staubach from Landry? You need a good scheme to get the most out of talent.


I want to see him play like a man on sunday night. We dont have to win but i need to see him leave it all out on the field.
 

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Uh this is true of every player ever, though.

How do you separate Montana from Walsh, Brady from Belichick, or Staubach from Landry? You need a good scheme to get the most out of talent.
Football is definitely the hardest sport to ascertain appropriate blame or praise but certain guys just jump out at you and would most likely succeed anywhere. Aaron Rodgers and Brady are just nearly perfect at their job. Sure they could've been drafted into the browns or whatever and that may
 

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Sigh, another one of these threads. I can only imagine what people would have been saying about Aikman if this board was around when he went 0-13 his rookie year.
 

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It will just mean he needs a run game to support him.

That is not an indictment on him. Even a superior QB in Romo had his best career seasons when he had the run game to ease the pressure.

Going 0-6 might actually turn into the best thing for the franchise in the long run.

That would definitely cool some jets about Prescott's abilities, both inside the organization and out.

Like I said a week ago and everyone had an issue with it.

We will see what he is made of without Elliott and a threatening run game (not just an "efficient" one).

But then again, if Tyron Smith does not make it back, then the cry will be that you can't evaluate him without a LT.


Dak is going to be a version of Russell Wilson. Probably a little better. That's what he is.

He's not going to be an elite passer but he will be a playmaker that needs some things around him.

Dak Prescott is the QB that Bill Parcells dreamed of really. Checks all of his boxes.
 

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Dak is going to be a version of Russell Wilson. Probably a little better. That's what he is.

He's not going to be an elite passer but he will be a playmaker that needs some things around him.

Dak Prescott is the QB that Bill Parcells dreamed of really. Checks all of his boxes.
He does not produce as much off script as Wilson.

He does not scramble and make the big plays Wilson does.

Some of that is the offensive system. I don't think he is encouraged to do whatever it takes to move the ball.
 

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Dak is going to be a version of Russell Wilson. Probably a little better. That's what he is.

He's not going to be an elite passer but he will be a playmaker that needs some things around him.

Dak Prescott is the QB that Bill Parcells dreamed of really. Checks all of his boxes.
I think you're on to something. Parcells liked his QB to make good decisions and avoid mistakes. He could be really hard on a player, though. I wonder how Dak would've responded if Parcells was his coach.
 

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I mean there is no way he can be taken seriously as a starter if he can't win one game without zeke. True starters find a way to be successful even when players are missing in the lineup not just struggle until players come back. So for example, if pressure is coming from the left side again this week is he smart enough to play to his right side and throw pass to the middle or to the right? Or will he continue to stand in the pocket knowing their is pressure from one side? Being a NFL starter is more than just throwing the ball down the field. You also need to play smart and figure out what works well and read defenses

Agree or Disagree?
if he gets sacked 8 times a game, hit another 10 times, then no he is not a fraud. no QB can play under those circumstances. we have seen plenty other elites go through the same thing.
 

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I don't see how it happens. I mean I can see us losing 6 because JG is an awful coach, but Dak has too much fight in him and too much character. He was running around for his life last week and was really the only offense we really had. He made a beautiful throw to Beasley that was called back for none other than Green's hold that would have put us at the 25 to possibly go up 14-3.

I'm sick of the coaches around here I really am.
 

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Dak is not yet a guy who can win games by dropping back 40 times and driving the offense through the air without the threat of a strong run game. He will be able to some day, but he does not see the field well enough to do it yet, just part of his maturation. We know this. He could lose the next 10 and it wouldn't change that, but it wouldn't make him a fraud.

What losing the next 6 would do is expose the coach (for the umpteenth time) and hopefully get him out, because he single-handedly limits Dak's potential.
 

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if he gets sacked 8 times a game, hit another 10 times, then no he is not a fraud. no QB can play under those circumstances. we have seen plenty other elites go through the same thing.
I genuinely wonder if we can ever lose a game, where somehow, someone doesn't make a thread trying to tie it to the QB.
 

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Dak is going to be a version of Russell Wilson. Probably a little better. That's what he is.

He's not going to be an elite passer but he will be a playmaker that needs some things around him.

Dak Prescott is the QB that Bill Parcells dreamed of really. Checks all of his boxes.

It always baffles me how so many fans treat anybody who isn't already a Hall of Fame lock like they're garbage. BUT BUT BUT BRADY COULD DO IT is a meaningless statement because he literally has no peers, living or dead.

Sure, Dak isn't that guy, OK, you got us. It's an argument that isn't even wrong, it just doesn't mean anything if you give it any thought.
 
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