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If the dumb coaches would let Dez run mostly slants and digs and not the fade, he would be very effective. Maybe then your slanted view of Dez would change and your non-stop digs at Dez will fade.

Dez has been almost worthless since he signed his contract several years ago. How long are you guys going to remain in denial that he sucks? Do you suddenly expect Dez to return to form after several years?
 

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But cutting him doesn't save you 16.5m. You only save about half of that and you will need to use your saving to replace him. Which top flight WR is coming here for less that 8m?
Or do you use a first round pick trying to fill a hole that you just created and ignore the defense?
What is the scenario where we end up better by getting rid of Dez?

You are overstating Dez' value to the team. You could give Noah Brown or Brice Butler Dez' targets and both of them would have better stats than Dez at a fraction of the cap hit.
 

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Dez has been almost worthless since he signed his contract several years ago. How long are you guys going to remain in denial that he sucks? Do you suddenly expect Dez to return to form after several years?

All of the WR/TE has been bad this year. JG's scheme/coaching is the main reason.
I bet he has our receivers practicing blocking more than actually catching passes.
 

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Honestly I have been staying quite on here when people bash Dez but I have had it with him. He would definitely put up more stats in a more favourable system but if you're being paid 14 million a year to catch a ball and be productive figure your **** out. See what we can get for him on the open market and draft his replacement in May. We should be able to get a 3rd or 4th, if not release him.

You know what teams do when players don't produce, they get rid of them. Dez is similar to Kelvin Benjamin and the Panthers made it clear they don't want a sloppy route running/unable to understand the playbook type of guy.
 

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Theres alot of thing bothering me about this team right now, but the biggest issue i have is Marinelli's subbing. In the last 2 games both have been decided in the first 2 drives of the 2nd half for opposing teams. In both games Marinelli has gone with backups primarily in both drives of both games. The DL will consist of Taco, Irving, Ash, Mayowa. And in both games both teams have gone on long TD drives on the Cowboys and started both surges with running attacks that werent there in the first half because the starters dont allow teams to run. But for whatever reason Marinelli will go with the backups in the 3rd quarter. It's ridiculous to see the starters pulled within the first 3-5 plays on the start of the 2nd half.

Anthony Brown has gone back to being awful after 1 good game vs the Chiefs. His biggest problem is he is getting beat bad off the snap and has to keep his back contantly turned to the QB to catch up to the WR. Allowing easy catches and missing a gimmie pick 6 vs the Eagles.

Dak had a horrible game, and IMO his first horrible game of his career. He was off from the start. The Dallas OL typically have a rough game against this defense and add in missing the best LT in the game and we saw the result. Still thats no excuse for the bad choices he mad in this game. He needs to keep it simple and take what the def is giving him. He is trying to force things because of Elliot not being there.

Dallas IMO needs to start over with its WR core. They dont need superstars either. Their offense is influenced by the run. Which opens up the passing game. Guys who can run good routes and understand when to run hot routes to help a pressured QB is whats needed. Dez needs to go, TW is stuck in Dallas atleast next yr and Dallas has Beasley who if teamed with good route runners could create in the middle of the field with open space. I would be happy with a guy like Calvin Riddley in the draft to replace Dez.

Tyron might be trying to make a go of it this week, and if he can it opens alot for this offense. Cooper is really suffering trying to compensate for LT.

This team has really phased Witten out of the game. Unthinkable to me if u asked me week 1. But somehow they have turned Witten into GBs version of Martellus Bennett.

We saw this week what a disciplined OL could do to David Irving's inability to develop a technique. His forward momentum is so out of control the guy in front of him basically treated him like a bull and allowed him to take himself out of plays. Think teams are going to see this and so will Dallas' coaches and i see Irving production dropping until he can learn a move other than bullrushing.

Dallas needed to go after Bowman this yr when he was released. But i think this team was thinking they were safe with Lee and Hitchens returning. I have no doubt he had plans to visit. I think they called with the Raiders offer and they told him to sign. Big error in judgement on the team.

Right now IMO team needs are WR.S.LB.
Thanks ! Nice Write up.
We have a lot going wrong right now : (
 

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Bowman was scheduled for s visit but Oakland never let him leave the building.
It was a better fit for him midseason due to proximity.
He would have definitely helped here though

We were only an option if OAK didn't want him. They wanted him.

Zach Brown was the guy we should have gone after and didn't.
 

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Certainly a contract could be structured so that the first year hit on a FA WR was $8 mil. That's not unrealistic.

Could the Cowboys draft a WR in the first round? Possibly.
But who? Which WR is going to be a free agent that is an upgrade?
And could we draft a WR in the first round? Of Course but is this the best way to improve your team when you have other real holes? Cutting Dez is just creating a hole that you now need to fix. Very rarely do WR's produce in the first year..Then there are so many that never reach WR1 status.

Im failing to see how this improves our team.
 

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You are overstating Dez' value to the team. You could give Noah Brown or Brice Butler Dez' targets and both of them would have better stats than Dez at a fraction of the cap hit.
It sounds more like you are understating Dez's talent. Brice Butler and Noah Brown are your answers to improve our team? So cut Dez and roll with Brice and Noah? 2 guys who are lucky to be in the NFL. 2 guys that if you cut them today no one would most likely sign them....wow.
 

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It sounds more like you are understating Dez's talent. Brice Butler and Noah Brown are your answers to improve our team? So cut Dez and roll with Brice and Noah? 2 guys who are lucky to be in the NFL. 2 guys that if you cut them today no one would most likely sign them....wow.

No. I'm not saying either one of them is a great player. I am saying Dez sucks. And no, I do not believe we would be a worse team without Dez. He has to be accounted for alright, he is always in the QBs ear hole saying I'm open.
 

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But who? Which WR is going to be a free agent that is an upgrade?
And could we draft a WR in the first round? Of Course but is this the best way to improve your team when you have other real holes? Cutting Dez is just creating a hole that you now need to fix. Very rarely do WR's produce in the first year..Then there are so many that never reach WR1 status.

Im failing to see how this improves our team.


There is already a hole where Dez is on the field. He is like a cancer because we insist on throwing the ball to Dez to placate him.
 

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No. I'm not saying either one of them is a great player. I am saying Dez sucks. And no, I do not believe we would be a worse team without Dez. He has to be accounted for alright, he is always in the QBs ear hole saying I'm open.
Oh I see.
So you don't care about improving the team as much as just getting a guy that sucks so bad off of the team...cool.

I wonder why so many highly paid NFL guys with years of football experience feel the need to put their top CB on Dez week after week? Weird isn't it?
 

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Oh I see.
So you don't care about improving the team as much as just getting a guy that sucks so bad off of the team...cool.

I wonder why so many highly paid NFL guys with years of football experience feel the need to put their top CB on Dez week after week? Weird isn't it?

Getting rid of Dez improves the team. You are just in denial about it. Witten needs to go too.

I wouldn't be opposed to paying them near the veteran minimum and play them in spots, but that's about it. The problem is our coaches won't do that, so they have to go.
 

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I think it is interesting how the narrative is changing in Dez. It went from he is double covered every play to other teams put their best corner on him. Dez is just a non factor for a defense to worry about anymore. Pathetic waste of cap space and targets.
 

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But who? Which WR is going to be a free agent that is an upgrade?
And could we draft a WR in the first round? Of Course but is this the best way to improve your team when you have other real holes? Cutting Dez is just creating a hole that you now need to fix. Very rarely do WR's produce in the first year..Then there are so many that never reach WR1 status.

Im failing to see how this improves our team.

Fitz
 

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I'm sure Philly would love to have Dez. Imagine replacing that Alshon Jeffrey with Dez Bryant on that offense.
Aaron Rodgers would also love having him to throw to. NE and Brady would know how to use him for sure.

Maybe this offense isn't putting players in the position to succeed like real offensive coordinators do?
It still is not the Bryant we need (The 2014 one). Yet we still have him doing the exact same things except now he has lost a half to a full step.

We should all know that our staff is very good at pretending declining players can still do things at a high level. Look at Written.
 

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I think it is interesting how the narrative is changing in Dez. It went from he is double covered every play to other teams put their best corner on him. Dez is just a non factor for a defense to worry about anymore. Pathetic waste of cap space and targets.
There are few WRs that can maintain a dominant level unless they are diverse enough to complement a loss of speed by refining their route running.

If I am a DC, I don't worry about Bryant because he is no longer as physically dominant as he once was. Unless my corner is a stiff, why devote extra help to him? He does and is asked to do the same things, the same way, every game. All boundary plays that unless my DB is just awful or short, can be defended.
 

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I don't understand how people can say this was Dak's first bad game. Does no one remember the second game against the Giants last year?
I'm sure no other QB has ever had more than one bad game in their first 25 games. He is breaking new ground. It took Tony 10 years before he had 2 bad games, and Aikman only had one in his career.
 
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