Percy's Stats on Dak

[Oh_Canada]

This tells me he is as good as anyone in the league when he has time, but struggles as do most young QB's when pressured.
I am a big believer in his work ethic, approach...he will get better.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Other than finding Dak’s particular magic number to shoot for in trying to keep pressure down (good luck with that) this is basically just unintelligible gobbledygook. I can’t think of anything useful that can be derived from it that isn’t already obvious.

None for you of course.

 

[AbeBeta]

Good analysis that leads to a simple conclusion. Young QBs take time to learn to handle pressure. That's not a bad thing - it is just a thing. If Dak can improve that PR by even 10 points, it would be huge.

 

[percyhoward]

This tells me he is as good as anyone in the league when he has time, but struggles as do most young QB's when pressured.
I am a big believer in his work ethic, approach...he will get better.

I think (when his head is right, at least) his lateral movement is good. As many have mentioned, one of the things he can improve is stepping up to avoid the pass rush. Not doing that is one of the things that sometimes lead to a quick sack, even though that's his fault.

The big thing I want to see is can he get to a point where he reacts like he's practiced it every time, regardless of how many times he's been hit. That's what Brady does.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I think (when his head is right, at least) his lateral movement is good. As many have mentioned, one of the things he can improve is stepping up to avoid the pass rush. Not doing that is one of the things that sometimes lead to a quick sack, even though that's his fault.

The big thing I want to see is can he get to a point where he reacts like he's practiced it every time, regardless of how many times he's been hit. That's what Brady does.

Agree on this for sure.

 

[visionary]

The problem is when he is pressured >40% of the time.

Then Dak becomes a far below average QB. He hears footsteps even when they aren't there. The QB differential from when he is pressured <40% and >40% of the time is greater than almost every QB in the league.

Also remember that we're trying to win a SB and in the playoffs you play the best defenses so I would think you'll be pressured a lot more

Dak and the coaching staff need to fix this

 

[Direwolf63]

Also remember that we're trying to win a SB and in the playoffs you play the best defenses so I would think you'll be pressured a lot more

Dak and the coaching staff need to fix this

Agreed.

And how confident are you the Garrett, Linehen, et al. will indeed fix these issues?

For me, it's near zero.

 

[cowboyblue22]

those stats tell you a lot about him as a qb, but the thing about it is he has got to be able handle the pressure against the better defenses in this league or the cowboys will never go very far

 

[dogberry]

Do defensive coordinators play back against rookies and attack 2nd year quarterbacks?

 

[DFWJC]

Do defensive coordinators play back against rookies and attack 2nd year quarterbacks?

They do know a player's strengths ad weaknesses more in year two. I know; stating the obvious here.

 

[xwalker]

You cant talk sense into the Dak haters. They have been waiting in the weeds for a bad stretch from Dak just to let loose on him. Reasoning is not a part of their agenda. They hated Dak from the start and always will. Ironically, the same people that defended Romo are now tearing apart Dak. Personally, I put the hard corp Dak haters on ignore. And I dont put many people on ignore.

The vast majority of Dak haters are mad that Romo is gone and/or they are Dez apologists.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Good stuff by Percy.

Remember that what is defined as "pressure" is subjective.

Not saying it helps or hurts Dak, just pointing out that the following is not taken into account:
Hold the ball too long?
Not see open receiver immediately?
Step right into pressure?
Not climb the pocket?
etc

None of that is included. It'd be really hard to determine, granted.

 

[xwalker]

Good stuff by Percy.

Remember that what is defined as "pressure" is subjective.

Not saying it helps or hurts Dak, just pointing out that the following is not taken into account:
Hold the ball too long?
Not see open receiver immediately?
Step right into pressure?
Not climb the pocket?
etc

None of that is included. It'd be really hard to determine, granted.

Yes, but these stats are not tied to him being bad only on plays where he is pressured or only good when not pressured. It's more/less than 40% for the game. I think average is about 31%.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Brady has been a dink and dunker for years now. The only thing Brady has is unquestionable leadership skills and Lombardi trophies. If you're only throwing 3 yard outs and 7 yard slants percentages should be high. Look no further than Cooks drop off in the deep game this year.

 

[LatinMind]

Plenty of us have noted, goi
ng all the way back to last year, mechanics and accuracy issues in games where he had a good passer rating. Those things show up in every game, not just when his numbers are bad.

first 25 games
65.7comp 5481yrds 39tds 8int 103.89rating 8rush td

When have his numbers been bad?

When he hasnt had a rb who can change the game? Who the defense has to play honest?
When the best OL in the NFL has a bad back and groin?
When said OL is hurt and his backup cant block?
Elliot suspension injured OL
62.6PCT comp 1506yrds 6tds 9int 22sacks 74.9rating 2rush td

If you want to say the coaches did this kid no justice but not changing 1 thing when all these things were happening to your offense i can believe you. But if youre not going to recognize the situation his coaches put him in, and dismiss the great stats he had in his first 25 games. Then youre argument is one sided and is only showing how biased you are against Dak.

 

[percyhoward]

And what of that percentage causes Dak to release early or late and completely throw off target?

TD, those things have little to no effect on his overall passing performance in the other games (when he's pressured on less than 40% of his dropbacks). So unless you expect near perfection, you have to conclude that he isn't doing nearly as many of those things in the under 40% pressure games.

 

[xwalker]

Plenty of us have noted, going all the way back to last year, mechanics and accuracy issues in games where he had a good passer rating. Those things show up in every game, not just when his numbers are bad.

So you are claiming that a bad QB has a great QB rating and great stats.

You are also one of the leaders of the "Dez is still awesome" fan club otherwise known as the Dez Boiz.

 

[punchnjudy]

I think (when his head is right, at least) his lateral movement is good. As many have mentioned, one of the things he can improve is stepping up to avoid the pass rush. Not doing that is one of the things that sometimes lead to a quick sack, even though that's his fault.

The big thing I want to see is can he get to a point where he reacts like he's practiced it every time, regardless of how many times he's been hit. That's what Brady does.

Any stats on "in the pocket" vs "out of the pocket?"

I saw that he was the second highest rated passer outside the pocket at the midway point with 38 attempts, but I don't recall as many scrambles for big passing plays in the second half. I know that "outside the pocket" doesn't necessarily mean broken plays but I'm still curious how that worked out for the whole season.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-best-qbs-on-throws-outside-of-the-pocket

 

[percyhoward]

Brady has been a dink and dunker for years now. The only thing Brady has is unquestionable leadership skills and Lombardi trophies. If you're only throwing 3 yard outs and 7 yard slants percentages should be high. Look no further than Cooks drop off in the deep game this year.

Or look at the Saints this year. It's all short stuff and highly dependent on YAC, and Brees has been practically untouchable.

 

[percyhoward]

Any stats on "in the pocket" vs "out of the pocket?"

I saw that he was the second highest rated passer outside the pocket at the midway point with 38 attempts, but I don't recall as many scrambles for big passing plays in the second half. I know that "outside the pocket" doesn't necessarily mean broken plays but I'm still curious how that worked out for the whole season.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-best-qbs-on-throws-outside-of-the-pocket

I don't have those numbers either unfortunately, but I remember a PFF tweet that he was among the top 10 rated passers from the pocket sometime near the midpoint of the season.