News: PFT: Report: Kellen Moore expected to be Cowboys quarterbacks coach

[SultanOfSix]

He's already more of an X's an O's guy than Garrett will ever be so I don't mind this hire. The offense sucks because of Garrett's stubbornness with his scheme and playbook, not because of Linehan and Moore.

 

[Dre11]

Excellent news, Dallas gets to train another coach. Never had any coaching experience at all? Come to Dallas fellas, you will get on-the-job training with no accountability. Who needs College to learn some skills and techniques

I just don't get it, you don't give 16yo's with a new permit a Ferrari for their first.........

There's assistants across the league that get jobs with little or no coaching experience. Duce Stanley in philly, Keenan McCardell in Washington are two off top of my head.

 

[lukin2006]

This should not surprise anyone...Moore does not deserve a coaching job at this point, he had no business even being on an NFL roster at all...

 

[Ultra Warrior]

So, a QB who wasn't worth a damn for us, is going to coach a QB who IS worth a damn to us?

 

[MikeT22]

Let me guess, Jerry thinks he's found the key to success. Hire unproven former Cowboys backup QB's and set them up to be HC-in-waiting.

 

[jterrell]

Its odd that so many hate this move yet are the same ones saying go get a Sean McVay.
Kellen Moore knows this offense and how to study defenses.
He helped Dak in the film room last year.
I don't know what this move will lead to but I'd argue Kellen is one of the brighter young offensive minds in football.
I'm glad to flip from Wade Wilson who had been here forever to a younger guy with a fire to move up.

 

[TheFinisher]

Maybe Matt Johnson is interested in a DB coaching gig.

 

[_sturt_]

There's assistants across the league that get jobs with little or no coaching experience. Duce Stanley in philly, Keenan McCardell in Washington are two off top of my head.

Another sober point.

I get it, I wouldn't want a staff full of newbies, but I think one or two guys who went directly from playing to becoming position coaches... not coordinators, mind you... and who get there because older coaches observe that they exhibited that coaching mentality/vibe as players... it's all good.

 

[_sturt_]

Next hire?

I predict Rico Gathers as TE coach....with his VAST basketball experience, he would be a great teacher on that side of the ball...

More soberly... I also won't quarrel much if/when Witten becomes TE coach.

Yes, I get it that Witten is accomplished and older, but we also know.... know... that those things aren't sure-fire predictors of success in coaching.

 

[diefree666]

Its odd that so many hate this move yet are the same ones saying go get a Sean McVay.
Kellen Moore knows this offense and how to study defenses.
He helped Dak in the film room last year.
I don't know what this move will lead to but I'd argue Kellen is one of the brighter young offensive minds in football.
I'm glad to flip from Wade Wilson who had been here forever to a younger guy with a fire to move up.

Knows how to study defenses? Please cite evidence. Brighter minds in Football? once again cite some evidence
BEYOND YOUR OPINION

 

[Ranching]

If Linehan is staying as OC, this is a very good hire. They will be o the same page. Wilson wanted more input, so there must have been some friction.

 

[birdwells1]

If Linehan is staying as OC, this is a very good hire. They will be o the same page. Wilson wanted more input, so there must have been some friction.

This is the reason not to hire him.

 

[jobberone]

What makes you think Kellen cant be that guy?

And on ur Dak presnap comment jibberish and 25pts a game bull....

I suggest you go look at Daks 3 biggest games Pit and GB in 2016, and GB in 2017. The guy played some of the best football as a rookie i ever seen in those 2 games and the GB this yr. One play in particular in the pitt game, pitt blitzed later in the game, dak saw it and changed the play to a deep pass to dez for a score.

And on ur 25pts a game....lol the team avg'd 26.6 pts per game with a rookie Dak
AND this yr before Elliots suspension and the OL injuries they were avg 28.25pts per game in the first 8 weeks, and still ended up 22.1 for the yr. Of course ur going to take a hit when you lose a player like Elliot and have the best Lineman in the nfl hurt.

Anything else?

I've said Moore isn't guaranteed to fail just there are better candidates out there. That's factual.

Dak isn't reading defenses well and I've heard him tell Linehan that during a game on the sidelines. Plus, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see he's having problems. There is plenty of commentary out there, for what's that worth, that he's not making the reads. TBF, teams have loaded the box and dared him to throw it. It's factual that cost us games and the offense scored pitifully over stretches some new records for futility for the Boys. So what part of that is gibberish? We scored 354 pts this year which is 22 PPG. That's particularly ugly when we went several games without scoring a TD. So we either scored 30 PPG or we failed miserably. It's up to Dak in the majority then you can blame the scheme, playcalling and receivers for that fail. It's up to Dak to know where the hot read routes are and hit them. It's up to him to beat the blitz although I freely admit it's not 100% on him. Blaming the OL and the running game is not based in reality. We averaged 4.6 YPC without EE.

Where'd you get those numbers. We scored 354 pts this year. Do the math.

So unless you want to exonerate the QB as the principal architect of the offense then you're full of gibberish.

 

[Ranching]

This is the reason not to hire him.

So you would rather have two coaches telling your QB different things?

 

[jobberone]

There's assistants across the league that get jobs with little or no coaching experience. Duce Stanley in philly, Keenan McCardell in Washington are two off top of my head.

Duce Staley was a Pro Bowl RB who became a RB coach ONLY after being an intern then STs asst. Keenan McCardell became a WR coach after a pretty successful career as a WR. You aren't really going to use them to compare to this situation.

No problem with Moore being a QC coach then working with the receivers before becoming a QB coach.

 

[unionjack8]

Its odd that so many hate this move yet are the same ones saying go get a Sean McVay.
Kellen Moore knows this offense and how to study defenses.
He helped Dak in the film room last year.
I don't know what this move will lead to but I'd argue Kellen is one of the brighter young offensive minds in football.
I'm glad to flip from Wade Wilson who had been here forever to a younger guy with a fire to move up.

Sean Mcvay started coaching in 2008.
Worked his way through NFL and college ranks from assistant positions to position coaching to OC to HC.
He EARNED his way up ..

 

[Corso]

 

[AKATheRake]

When they decide to let Garrett go Jerry will just make Moore the new OC or HC

 

[reddyuta]

I have more faith in Kellen Moore the QB coach then Jason Garrett as a head coach.

 

[_sturt_]

Honest question.

Was just casually talking about this with a Cowboys friend, and came up in conversation that we both think of the QB coach different than any other position coach on the staff. That is, for instance, we think of the o-line coach as holding his guys accountable, and being the hammer when there's a screw-up.

Not so the QB coach.

The QB coach, at least to my and my friend's perception, is more of a counselor type. The Coordinator is the one who is the QB's hammer more so than is the QB position coach.

Anyone else see it that way, too?

Perhaps that helps explain a little more why this hire isn't quite such a big deal to me as it is to the several complaining about it in this thread.

Should Moore have been named "Assistant QB coach" instead? Perhaps. McVay's first NFL job was as an assistant WR coach. But it seems redundant, given that the OC is, in ours and on many staffs, the guy who most intensely works with the QB anyway.

Just how I see it.