News: BST: Maligned Garrett Entering Crossroads With Cowboys

[star-ving]

To be fair at one point in 08 the defense had 7 number ones playing.

Roy Williams
Terrance Newman
DeMarcus ware
Marcus Spears
Bobby Carpenter
Anthony spencer
Mike Jenkins

Barbie = #2

As in bathroom code

 

[star-ving]

To be fair at one point in 08 the defense had 7 number ones playing.

Roy Williams
Terrance Newman
DeMarcus ware
Marcus Spears
Bobby Carpenter
Anthony spencer
Mike Jenkins

Barbie = #2

As in bathroom code.

 

[Pantone282C]

Good points!

It is written by Jean Jacques Taylor, who was always bashing the Boys on ESPN. He was forced to back off by someone and change his rhetoric, from what I could see. Was soon gone from ESPN.

 

[Reality]

It is written by Jean Jacques Taylor, who was always bashing the Boys on ESPN. He was forced to back off by someone and change his rhetoric, from what I could see. Was soon gone from ESPN.

We all know JJT around here

 

[George]

Wouldn’t it make sense to have Linehan stomping his feet and Marinelli blowing into the jug while Garrett claps?

 

[theebs]

It is written by Jean Jacques Taylor, who was always bashing the Boys on ESPN. He was forced to back off by someone and change his rhetoric, from what I could see. Was soon gone from ESPN.

he has a daily radio show on espn.

 

[diefree666]

I get that you believe that the team and coaching as it is currently constructed would continue the 1 and done. However, my point is that they haven't gone 12-4 for 3 consecutive years (hell, they haven't done it 2 consecutive years) since 1993-1995. So, in order to go 12-4 for 3 consecutive years, the team, including coaches, would have to be on par with the 1993-1995 teams that appeared in 3 straight NFCC, winning 2 and winning 2 SB. So, if the team and coaching can do something that hasn't been done in 22 years, they can and would also not be 1 and done. It's just stands to reason.

I'm not making a case that will happen, nor am I making a case for keeping the coaching staff. I'm simply rebutting the assertion that 4-12 next year is preferable to 12-4 for the next 3 years. It just makes no sense because logic and history says they would not go 1 and done those years and would likely play in a Super Bowl if they went 12-4 for 3 straight years.

Look at the Bungles. How many years in a row did they make the playoffs and YET DID NOT WIN ONE. So that proves your contention is bogus.

 

[KJJ]

Someone needs to truly sober Jerry up.
Maybe the glass cleaning guy needs to be fired so Jerry can see what is really happening.

He sees everything through rose colored glasses.

 

[JustChip]

Look at the Bungles. How many years in a row did they make the playoffs and YET DID NOT WIN ONE. So that proves your contention is bogus.

Uh, wrong. The Bungles have NEVER gone 12-4 three seasons in a row. I would venture a guess that there has never been a team go 12-4 for 3 consecutive years that didn't make it to their conference championship, maybe even won their conference championship.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Crossroads my uncle's gnarled elbow. This should be the season of cross hairs for Garrett.

 

[Pants]

not sure why, but when I saw "crossroads", my brain went to "cross hairs"...where is a good sniper when you need one

 

[Pants]

Crossroads my uncle's gnarled elbow. This should be the season of cross hairs for Garrett.

lol, we basically typed the same thing at the same time

 

[Beast_from_East]

This article is the exact same thing I have been saying, Garrett has had enough time to build the team.

7 complete seasons is an eternity in the NFL and men with way more skins on the wall then Garrett have not been given this much time.

Now his defenders will say the defense is the problem. Well if the defense is the problem, it is Garrett’s job to fix it.

The time has come, either Garrett takes the next step and makes a deep playoff run or he steps aside and let’s somebody else have a shot. Like the article said, Garrett has had enough time and frankly the excuses are getting old.

 

[northerncowboynation]

Yep it's good article. I'm of the opinion that Jerry will move on from coaches. Several have had expiring contracts this year and aren't here now. There is also some evidence that he was willing to give Marinelli a "title" for one year and give Eberflus a shot at DC. That gives me some hope. 2018 is a big year for Garrett and Linehan. Linehan's contract extension of 2 years is up after 2018, Garretts after 2019. Both have risen to their level of incompetence I believe and neither can go any higher in the organization.

My head tells me that Linehan is on the hot seat after 2018 if improvements aren't made. Garrett is right behind him so one shot could do them both in. So do we hope for a great season in 2018 or 0-16?

 

[JustChip]

Yep it's good article. I'm of the opinion that Jerry will move on from coaches. Several have had expiring contracts this year and aren't here now. There is also some evidence that he was willing to give Marinelli a "title" for one year and give Eberflus a shot at DC. That gives me some hope. 2018 is a big year for Garrett and Linehan. Linehan's contract extension of 2 years is up after 2018, Garretts after 2019. Both have risen to their level of incompetence I believe and neither can go any higher in the organization.

My head tells me that Linehan is on the hot seat after 2018 if improvements aren't made. Garrett is right behind him so one shot could do them both in. So do we hope for a great season in 2018 or 0-16?

Well, I for one, am hoping for a great 2018 season. I'm a season ticket holder and was in 1989 and there was nothing, absolutely nothing, to compare with the misery of going to those games. And, unlike many, I'm not going to rewrite history and say I knew all along we were on the right track with the JJ boys. You were hard-pressed to find anyone, media included, that thought that. You're just as hard-pressed now to find anyone that didn't know we were on the right track.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Yes , and why we need as much elite talent as we can muster .

But the bigger point is how many coaches are winning games against more talented teams on a regular basis?The NFL is a talent driven league. If we assemble more talent in key areas we’ll become a better team.

Im not promoting Garrett is a good coach but your saying he is the worst in NFL? IDK..

Using this rationale, no coach would ever get fired. They could just use the not enough talent excuse.

I mean, Jack Del Rio probably thinks more talent would have helped, munchak in Tenn also. Or what about Detroit, Arizona, Indy, NY?

Seven coaches in total have been fired, including one who won a playoff game this year. Funny how those organizations didn’t think “lack of talent” is a viable excuse.

 

[Diehardblues]

Using this rationale, no coach would ever get fired. They could just use the not enough talent excuse.

I mean, Jack Del Rio probably thinks more talent would have helped, munchak in Tenn also. Or what about Detroit, Arizona, Indy, NY?

Seven coaches in total have been fired, including one who won a playoff game this year. Funny how those organizations didn’t think “lack of talent” is a viable excuse.

Of course and I’d wager those HC had more influence in the talent on those teams.

It’s why Garrett isn’t held as accountable. He’s only cooking up the groceries and why most coaches wouldn’t want to come here. Not any coaches we’d have on our want list.

Being a puppet you recieve less credit and less blame from the boss.

 

[Diehardblues]

Once you accept what Jerry’s agenda is makes it much easier to tolerate this era and less frustrated with our coaching staff and roster cause nothing is going to change like we’d think or hope it should.

This has become all about Jerry’s pursuit to prove he can win without a proven HC who could recieve more credit. It limits our potential and reduced us to a more mediocre football franchise with all the pomp and circumstance with being the wealthiest and most popular .

Jerry thanks everyone for continuing to contribute financially allowing him to follow his passion without more success on the field.

 

[diefree666]

Uh, wrong. The Bungles have NEVER gone 12-4 three seasons in a row. I would venture a guess that there has never been a team go 12-4 for 3 consecutive years that didn't make it to their conference championship, maybe even won their conference championship.

now going 12-4 for three years in a row is pretty rare. My point is that somehow that would make a playoff win or better inevitable is frankly without support that matters. Considering the boys record and the bungles record there is NO REASON to think any playoff wins would come no matter what the season record.
2007 we went 12-4
2014 we went 12-4
2016 we went 13-3. Grand total of ONE playoff win in those seasons.

By the way when was the last time the boys put together two really good seasons in a row?

Bottom line is that your attempt to defend Garrett is without substance

 

[JustChip]

now going 12-4 for three years in a row is pretty rare. My point is that somehow that would make a playoff win or better inevitable is frankly without support that matters. Considering the boys record and the bungles record there is NO REASON to think any playoff wins would come no matter what the season record.
2007 we went 12-4
2014 we went 12-4
2016 we went 13-3. Grand total of ONE playoff win in those seasons.

By the way when was the last time the boys put together two really good seasons in a row?

Bottom line is that your attempt to defend Garrett is without substance

Ok, you probably didn't see the original post. I never made in assertion they would go 12-4 for 3 years. The point of the original post is that the poster would rather go 4-12 next year than 12-4 for the next 3 years. All I'm doing is rebutting that since, based on history, any team that goes 12-4 for 3 straight years will play in a conference championship and, with only 2 exceptions, win a Super Bowl. You're trying to move the cheese on what the point of the post was.

We're not talking about putting 2 really good consecutive seasons together. Nor are we talking about 3 separate, really good seasons 5-7 years apart. We're talking about THREE consecutive 12-4 seasons which, as you readily admit, is rarified air. Again, try to grasp this, I'm not saying they will do that, I'm saying IF they do, based on history, they will play in an NFCC and, with a high probability, a Super Bowl.

Finally, if you'll go back and read my posts, you'll see that I have said this is not an endorsement for Garrett or any of the coaches. It is simply a statement of fact that for a team to go 12-4 for THREE CONSECUTIVE seasons means they most likely will play in 1 or more championship games and probably a Super Bowl. You're the one making about Garrett.