JJT: Philadelphia's Success Puts Spotlight on Jason Garrett

[Alexander]

Last I checked, his job title says head coach. And that includes all of it - offense, defense, and special teams.

You said all three phases. Stacking. Good days on top of others.

 

[Idgit]

I guess that is the new thing.

Garrett would be good enough were it not for that darn defense.

New? Right. This is “new,” me saying we’ve had insufficient talent. Jesus.

The problem has never been the coaching. You homers keep making excuses for a unit that can’t pull its own weight for whatever reason. I guess I just have higher expectations and won’t settle for mediocre. We’re different that way. Go Cowboys.

 

[aria]

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Wait........... many of the JG supporters have said he's been vital in rebuilding the roster from what he inherited.

It's funny how this works. After the 2016 season, you guys wanted JG to get credit for his role in building the roster. 2017 happens and wait, JG has no control over the roster at all so you can't blame depth problems on him.

No surprise here, nice try Sydla. I know you’re a pro at misquoting people and accusing me of saying things I never said but don’t use my response and respond with “you guys”. Please pull up a qoute right now of where I’ve said JG has been vital at restoring this roster or don’t use my post.

 

[aria]

"Nothing to do with JG"? Seriously?

You mean that the head coach of the team has no voice and no say in who's here and who's not? Please. Let's not be naive. Jerry Jones isn't forcing the Chaz Greens and Byron Bells of the world on poor Jason Garrett.

Then who is? Did JG personally select Chaz Green and Byron Bell? What the hell are we paying McClay for then?

 

[Alexander]

New? Right. This is “new,” me saying we’ve had insufficient talent. Jesus.

The problem has never been the coaching. You homers keep making excuses for a unit that can’t pull its own weight for whatever reason. I guess I just have higher expectations and won’t settle for mediocre. We’re different that way. Go Cowboys.

And the "insufficient talent" will never be sufficient enough. They could devote the next three drafts to get studs on defense and it will not play itself out as teams cannot just talent their way to winning all the time.

They can nail this upcoming draft and get the replacements for swing tackle, a linebacker and there will be some other area that pops up that he cannot handle.

Look at Zimmer. He has probably the most talented defense in the league from a talent perspective. That did not seem to help them out Sunday, did it? They were out-schemed and out-prepared by a superior coaching effort. It can happen. But when it happens over and over again, there is a problem.

Garrett has only shown one speed. You can put him on a ten speed or a turbo charged motorcycle, he is still going to skid off the road eventually because he can't drive and manage what he is working with. He is not over-achieving. He is under-achieving.

This is a year to year league, where the right break with talent, whether it be injury, trade acquisition, free agent signing or draftee can change a teams fortune in a second. You cannot say the Eagles did not overcome adversity.

The one thing that matters is consistency on how players are deployed, prepared and also managing their personalities.

The only consistent thing Garrett has shown is that if things break just about right in terms of adversity, he can win a division.

That still leaves those darn playoffs then the stakes get higher and the pressure gets turned up.

There is a reason he has failed in practically every single win and in situation in his coaching career.

 

[Stash]

Garrett's problem is that he cannot overcome that because he thinks and acts like an employee who is "comfortable with ambiguity".

He buys into the organizational direction pretty consistently. He plays it safe and sound, the best he can. He survives as his robotic brain directs him to.

Can't deny the guy's survival instinct. He'd throw his own mother under the bus if it meant keeping his job and the paycheck he's never earned.

He can play the con, no doubt. Has fooled the old man and his son, and continues to fool many fans. But the clock is ticking.

 

[Stash]

Then who is? Did JG personally select Chaz Green and Byron Bell? What the hell are we paying McClay for then?

McClay gets paid to handle scouting. Provide information. But he's obviously not the GM, and obviously doesn't have any final say over personnel.

Garrett obviously had no issues with either guy being on his team, did he? So he's either incompetent or a complicit weasel who goes along with whatever he's told in order to milk another undeserved year on a job he can't handle, you decide.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I'm amazed no one has really expressed to him how stupid he looks with an earring.

He reminds me of a bald Predator.

 

[visionary]

Without that defense, Pederson’s season ends in a home loss to Atlanta.

I thought Garrett was "building the team"? No?

Say it ain't so

 

[Stash]

And the "insufficient talent" will never be sufficient enough. They could devote the next three drafts to get studs on defense and it will not play itself out as teams cannot just talent their way to winning all the time.

They can nail this upcoming draft and get the replacements for swing tackle, a linebacker and there will be some other area that pops up that he cannot handle.

Look at Zimmer. He has probably the most talented defense in the league from a talent perspective. That did not seem to help them out Sunday, did it? They were out-schemed and out-prepared by a superior coaching effort. It can happen. But when it happens over and over again, there is a problem.

Garrett has only shown one speed. You can put him on a ten speed or a turbo charged motorcycle, he is still going to skid off the road eventually because he can't drive and manage what he is working with. He is not over-achieving. He is under-achieving.

This is a year to year league, where the right break with talent, whether it be injury, trade acquisition, free agent signing or draftee can change a teams fortune in a second. You cannot say the Eagles did not overcome adversity.

The one thing that matters is consistency on how players are deployed, prepared and also managing their personalities.

The only consistent thing Garrett has shown is that if things break just about right in terms of adversity, he can win a division.

That still leaves those darn playoffs then the stakes get higher and the pressure gets turned up.

There is a reason he has failed in practically every single win and in situation in his coaching career.

School is in session.

Well done!

 

[aria]

McClay gets paid to handle scouting. Provide information. But he's obviously not the GM, and obviously doesn't have any final say over personnel.

Garrett obviously had no issues with either guy being on his team, did he? So he's either incompetent or a complicit weasel who goes along with whatever he's told in order to milk another undeserved year on a job he can't handle, you decide.

Ah, so McClay gets the credit for all the good but not the bad? Or is Jerry still making the decisions. I think it’s pretty common knowledge Garrett isn’t running the draft.

There’s no doubt he goes along with whatever he’s told otherwise he wouldn’t be the HC and that’s exactly why we’ll never get a real head coach as long as Jerry is still breathing.

 

[visionary]

Garrett's problem is that he cannot overcome that because he thinks and acts like an employee who is "comfortable with ambiguity".

He buys into the organizational direction pretty consistently. He plays it safe and sound, the best he can. He survives as his robotic brain directs him to.

Jerry and Stephen and Garrett are all happy with the current structure

"Everybody is involved " in making decisions so no one is responsible
Jerry gets to be the real decision baker and coach and 'football guy'
Garrett gets to be the pretend HC spouting cliches during PCs

The only losers are fans

 

[Quickdraw]

The thing is, Jerry is happy with his moral victory and not ending up 8-8 again. The money is still rolling in and the Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in the world. He doesn't care about winning of what the fans think, so I doubt he looks at Philly as asks why they're in the Superbowl and the Cowboys can't even make the playoffs 2 years in a row.

 

[kevm3]

Lack of depth is no excuse when our starters including zeke could barely beat philly backups. How many of out OWN players keep coming out with revelations about the offensive staff such as cassell unable to find the qb coach to Romo saying Garrett isn't an x and is guy to scandrick essentially saying Romo was the play caller. The obscene talent on the offense hid the o coaches not doing their job.

 

[Idgit]

And the "insufficient talent" will never be sufficient enough. They could devote the next three drafts to get studs on defense and it will not play itself out as teams cannot just talent their way to winning all the time.

They can nail this upcoming draft and get the replacements for swing tackle, a linebacker and there will be some other area that pops up that he cannot handle.

Look at Zimmer. He has probably the most talented defense in the league from a talent perspective. That did not seem to help them out Sunday, did it? They were out-schemed and out-prepared by a superior coaching effort. It can happen. But when it happens over and over again, there is a problem....

Not true at all. They can easily assemble enough defensive talent. They just haven't.

Note, we're talking about championship quality defense here, since the team is already in place to win regular season games.

Zimmer got to the NFC championship. Then lost to another very good defense...one that beat ATL singlehandedly and that beat the Vikings on a 50 yard pick-six and a strip sack fumble on succeeding series. Because....great defense is a tremendous advantage when you're playing playoff football.

 

[Alexander]

I thought Garrett was "building the team"? No?

Say it ain't so

We have come a ways from people just not being able to see "what is being built here".

In reality, it is a house of cards that can come tumbling down at the first sign of adversity.

One year, those darn injuries. The next year, those unfair suspensions and referee bias. I guess pretty soon it will just be bad luck.

 

[Sydla]

Without that defense, Pederson’s season ends in a home loss to Atlanta.

But it didn't end. And then in the next game, with a backup QB and without his starting LT, they dropped 31 offensive points on a Top 3 defense in the NFL.

There isn't a frog's chance in hell our staff could have done the same thing.

 

[aria]

Lack of depth is no excuse when our starters including zeke could barely beat philly backups. How many of out OWN players keep coming out with revelations about the offensive staff such as cassell unable to find the qb coach to Romo saying Garrett isn't an x and is guy to scandrick essentially saying Romo was the play caller. The obscene talent on the offense hid the o coaches not doing their job.

Then how do you explain going 13-3 last year with a rookie qb and rookie rb? Do you think the Philly game even mattered to the players? Most people here didn’t even want them to win and now you’re complaining they barely beat the back ups?

 

[Sydla]

I guess that is the new thing.

Garrett would be good enough were it not for that darn defense.

That's always been a thing.

When the team is playing well, they want Garrett to get credit for building this roster. When things go south, they want to absolve Garrett because the defense isn't talented enough. Can't blame Garrett for the defense's shortcomings they'll tell you.

 

[kevm3]

Kellen moore being brought on as qb coach shows you what kind of dysfunction is exists with the offensive staff. We are trusting the development of our young qb to a guy who has zero coaching experience and was beat out by the guy he is now going to develop.