Twitter: Dak will focus on accuracy next year

[lk8701]

His receivers had 28 drops in 2017, compared to 13 in 2016.

Counting drops as completions, and removing throwaways, spikes, batted passes, and hit as thrown:
Adjusted completion percentage
2016 75.3% (10th)
2017 74.3% (10th)

It could be that they don't see anything to gain in telling him that it's the anticipation of pressure that turns him into a different QB. I really hope that's not the case, and that they address this issue somehow. It couldn't hurt to bring in a "brain trainer" like the one used by Russell Wilson.

Exactly. That was my suggestion. Dak should use Russell Wilson's guy.

http://moawadconsultinggroup.com/

 

[percyhoward]

Exactly. That was my suggestion. Dak should use Russell Wilson's guy.

http://moawadconsultinggroup.com/

Yeah I got it from you. I think it's a great idea, and there's no way it could hurt.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

We can bemoan Dak’s accuracy all we want. However, as Percy is trying to show you, in games where Dak is not pressured an inordinate amount of times, his accuracy issues don’t stop him from being one of the more productive passers in the league.

Fix the pressure issue, fix the offense.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We can bemoan Dak’s accuracy all we want. However, as Percy is trying to show you, in games where Dak is not pressured an inordinate amount of times, his accuracy issues don’t stop him from being one of the more productive passers in the league.

Fix the pressure issue, fix the offense.

The stats also showed that he regressed by 8% when not under pressure compared to the year before. Frankly when a QB has all day to throw he should have a 75% or better completion percentage.

 

[lk8701]

Yeah I got it from you. I think it's a great idea, and there's no way it could hurt.

The stats definitely don't lie. "The anticipation of pressure turns him into a different QB" is an accurate statement.

 

[CCBoy]

Yeah I got it from you. I think it's a great idea, and there's no way it could hurt.

Heck, wouldn't hurt for Jason Garrett and the entire admin side of house to attend...

 

[ScipioCowboy]

The stats also showed that he regressed by 8% when not under pressure compared to the year before. Frankly when a QB has all day to throw he should have a 75% or better completion percentage.

Percy addressed that point.

Drops.

 

[WillieBeamen]

We can bemoan Dak’s accuracy all we want. However, as Percy is trying to show you, in games where Dak is not pressured an inordinate amount of times, his accuracy issues don’t stop him from being one of the more productive passers in the league.

Fix the pressure issue, fix the offense.

Who wants a QB that needs everything to be perfect around them, to play well?

The truly elite and top tier QBs still ball when key players go down. See: Brady, Brees, Wentz, Wilson, Rodgers, Cousins etc.

 

[lk8701]

We can bemoan Dak’s accuracy all we want. However, as Percy is trying to show you, in games where Dak is not pressured an inordinate amount of times, his accuracy issues don’t stop him from being one of the more productive passers in the league.

Fix the pressure issue, fix the offense.

In games when he was pressured on 40% or more of dropbacks he still performed poorly on the plays that he was well protected not just the plays that he was pressured. Like Percy said the anticipation of pressure turned Dak into a different QB.

 

[gimmesix]

Why didn't he work on his accuracy this year?

He probably did, but he isn't going to look at his play and say he did it well enough. It's like a QB saying I'm going to work on reading defenses better. It doesn't mean he wasn't already working on it, just that he acknowledges the need to get better.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Who wants a QB that needs everything to be perfect around them, to play well?

The truly elite and top tier QBs still ball when key players go down. See: Brady, Brees, Wentz, Wilson, Rodgers, Cousins etc.

Your argument, then, is not he’s a bad quarterback. It’s he’s not an elite quarterback. I agree. However, when Dak isn’t pressured an inordinate amount of times, the offense scores points at a pace similar to the best offenses in franchise history. Imagine if we could teach Dak better ways to handle pressure.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

His receivers had 28 drops in 2017, compared to 13 in 2016.

Counting drops as completions, and removing throwaways, spikes, batted passes, and hit as thrown:
Adjusted completion percentage
2016 75.3% (10th)
2017 74.3% (10th)

It could be that they don't see anything to gain in telling him that it's the anticipation of pressure that turns him into a different QB. I really hope that's not the case, and that they address this issue somehow. It couldn't hurt to bring in a "brain trainer" like the one used by Russell Wilson.

Are comparing apples to apples or are you taking the total and comparing it with the split?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

In games when he was pressured on 40% or more of dropbacks he still performed poorly on the plays that he was well protected not just the plays that he was pressured. Like Percy said the anticipation of pressure turned Dak into a different QB.

The issue, then, isn’t accuracy. It’s handling pressure. Quarterbacks can improve their handling of pressure. Not so much with accuracy.

 

[percyhoward]

The stats also showed that he regressed by 8% when not under pressure compared to the year before. Frankly when a QB has all day to throw he should have a 75% or better completion percentage.

The league average from a clean pocket is around 68%. Dak's was 69.8%, which ranked 11th for QB from a clean pocket. His receivers had 20 drops this year and 6 drops last year when he was throwing from a clean pocket.

I had already posted that his accuracy percentage on all attempts has ranked 10th each of the last two seasons.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The league average from a clean pocket is around 68%. Dak's was 69.8%, which ranked 11th for QB from a clean pocket. His receivers had 20 drops this year and 6 drops last year when he was throwing from a clean pocket.

I had already posted that his accuracy percentage on all attempts has ranked 10th each of the last two seasons.

So the drops were the same basically for pressure and spiked with a clean pocket. That seems fishy to me.

 

[lk8701]

The issue, then, isn’t accuracy. It’s handling pressure. Quarterbacks can improve their handling of pressure. Not so much with accuracy.

Exactly.

“There’s nobody that understands competitive nature and the mind in the midst of chaos better than Trevor,” says Wilson, who meets with Moawad at least once a week during the season. “There are so many times where I have been able to visualize myself being in a situation and overcoming an obstacle—it’s all about being the calm of the storm in the crucial moments.”

https://www.si.com/edge/2017/11/17/russell-wilson-trevor-moawad-mental-conditioning-brain-trainer

The best thing he can do is use Russell Wilson's guy. Dak was a Cowboys fan growing up. I wish he posted on this forum so he can see this !

 

[starcity214]

As opposed to what? What should he have said. He was asked a question and answered it.

People are just getting tired of lip service that's all...

It's one of two things, either Dak didn't put in the work last off-season ( his supporters swear he is a hard worker) or Dak did put in the work but still isn't good enough... Either way we should be worried.

 

[percyhoward]

Are comparing apples to apples or are you taking the total and comparing it with the split?

The latter, just to give an idea of how his numbers compare with a full season of sub-40% pressure games vs. a full season at 40%+.

Here's one that shows how it's the games and not the pressures themselves:

2016-17
Brady 95.0 116.2
diff +21.2
Prescott 90.6 74.5
diff -16.1
Cousins 83.4 114.6
diff +31.2
Rodgers 81.4 104.0
diff +22.6
Stafford 80.3 100.4
diff +20.1
Ryan 77.5 104.1
diff +26.6
Keenum 74.2 95.4
diff +21.2
Winston 72.7 103.9
diff +31.2
Goff 69.6 85.6
diff +16.0
Manning 66.0 85.1
diff +19.1
Newton 65.9 79.6
diff +13.7
Smith 65.5 94.5
diff +29.0
Rthlsbrgr 64.0 128.4
diff +64.4
McCown 60.8 85.7
diff +24.9
Bortles 59.4 85.7
diff +26.3
Rivers 57.2 101.0
diff +43.8
Flacco 54.9 80.9
diff +26.0
Wentz 50.4 105.4
diff +55.0
Siemian 43.3 91.6
diff +48.3

The first number is that QB's passer rating when pressured in his sub-40% pressure games, second number is from a clean pocket in his 40%+ pressure games.

 

[starcity214]

Dak has confidence. That’s a good thing. Considering the terrible play of our backup tackles, Garrett refusing to consistently help his terrible backup tackles, Dez continuing to drop passes and not get any seperation, and Garrett’s simple and predictable passing game philosophy, I think Dak played pretty well. Football is a team game where coaching is extremely important. Dak’s team mates did not play as well this year, or were suspended, and his coaching staff did not consistently put him in position to make plays. It’s very difficult for Dak to make plays consistently when he is running for his life. See Atlanta, Seattle games etc.

"Dak has confidence"

This right here...

See, Dak has you people fooled...

Just because he jumps and hollers on the sidelines..

Just because he puts on his helmet enthusiastically Everytime he takes the field...

Just because he stands up in the podium and deliver lip service..

Some think Dak is "confident"

His play says otherwise.

3rd and 10 , he has Dez 1 on on 1 15 yards down the field and he throws it to Witten/ Beasley for 6 yards..

This is how cowards play. This is how the "Jason Garrett's" of the world play.

I would hardly call that "confident".

 

[starcity214]

Your argument, then, is not he’s a bad quarterback. It’s he’s not an elite quarterback. I agree. However, when Dak isn’t pressured an inordinate amount of times, the offense scores points at a pace similar to the best offenses in franchise history. Imagine if we could teach Dak better ways to handle pressure.

Zeke may have something to do with that don't you think? How many points did we score when he was out?