Anyone else have problems sleeping?

Runwildboys said:
Smoke a joint.
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That's what I used to do when I traveled a lot and it really worked but then I started having crazy thoughts and would call my wife at 2am and tell her to check all the doors and windows to make sure they're locked. She got tired of that really quick and couldn't get back to sleep herself.
 
CouchCoach said:
That's what I used to do when I traveled a lot and it really worked but then I started having crazy thoughts and would call my wife at 2am and tell her to check all the doors and windows to make sure they're locked. She got tired of that really quick and couldn't get back to sleep herself.
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It deactivates the mind, and dries out the mouth. Two birds, one stoner.
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
It can be really bizarre.

There are times I might get home from work and not even drink a full can of root beer or other similar type beverage..but at night it will be like I went out to dollar beer night and drank a keg with peeing multiple times at night.

Other times I might drink loads of water or other beverages and think, I am going to be up all night and only go maybe once.

I do know not to drink any cranberry type drinks or apple juices after a certain hour...made that mistake and thought I was going pee out a keg lol.

I complain about it but I think it is just one of those things where it boils down to getting older. And by saying peeing multiple times it might be 5 max which is a good deal when you used to only have to go once if at all during the night.
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Peeing that many times could be a prostrate issue or a a pre-diabetic warning.

Watch your sugar intake, including alcohol, before trying to go to sleep. If I drink white wine after 8 or without enough food, I will pop awake in the middle of the night and I mean pop.
 
Runwildboys said:
I used to toss and turn for 2-3 hours before falling asleep, every night, because I couldn't stop thinking about everything. Now I'm usually asleep within a half hour, and if not, I try to tell the same story in my head each time it happens.
Because I'm telling the story the same way, there's nothing to really make my mind stray, so it stays quiet. At least that's my theory, and it seems to work.

As for your breathing, have you tried Breathe Rite strips? It's surprising how much they open up your nostrils.
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This really works for me as well and turning off the mind is a real challenge. I do the same thing you do and have about 5 ridiculous stories I tell myself, even more ridiculous than the ones I tell here, and before I know it I am asleep but that doesn't help staying asleep.

I am very susceptible to pharms and it doesn't take much to affect me but about every third night I take a half of a Xanax and that helps me stay asleep. I do not go beyond that because I don't want to be dependent on that because I am a little grogged out the next morning.
 
CouchCoach said:
This really works for me as well and turning off the mind is a real challenge. I do the same thing you do and have about 5 ridiculous stories I tell myself, even more ridiculous than the ones I tell here, and before I know it I am asleep but that doesn't help staying asleep.

I am very susceptible to pharms and it doesn't take much to affect me but about every third night I take a half of a Xanax and that helps me stay asleep. I do not go beyond that because I don't want to be dependent on that because I am a little grogged out the next morning.
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I avoid taking anything to help me sleep, even when I probably should take it, for exactly the same reason.

I've also noticed that sometimes, if I just need a little help, I don't have to tell a story. I can sometimes just try to think of the type of weird things that go through your mind as you start to dream, like a raccoon doing back flips on a tire swing, while doing card tricks. That seems to fool my unconscious mind into taking over.
 
CouchCoach said:
Peeing that many times could be a prostrate issue or a a pre-diabetic warning.

Watch your sugar intake, including alcohol, before trying to go to sleep. If I drink white wine after 8 or without enough food, I will pop awake in the middle of the night and I mean pop.
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Probably prostrate...am getting around that age.

Seriously doubt it is Diabetic...if anything I sometimes have issues with low blood sugar and have to eat something. Plus...almost always drink sugar free soda/pop (depending on where you are from).
 
One other thing I have not talked about and I believe it is the Zyrtec.

On rare occasions I would wake up talking to myself, laughing, or the occasional waking yourself up fighting enemies, zombies or animals. But kind of rare.

However since taking Zyrtec it is pretty common for me waking myself up talking and especially laughing. I have always had very vivid and crazy dreams but Now I wake up a good deal talking to myself and many times laughing about whatever I was talking about. It's so often that some of the co workers will ask If I have had any good dreams lately just to hear a story or two.

I honestly don't mind waking up like that. I will break out into some really good laughs while waking up and shortly after being awake.

I don't think I have talked in my sleep or did something like this as much as when I was in basic training and a LOT of people did it in basic training...yelling out Yes Drill Sgt. Attention officer on deck. Make a whole and other crazy military stuff. If you were on fire guard duty you would hear 2-3 people in that hour or so yelling something out. I think it was also the only time I ever had a case of sleep walking. Woke up in full BDU (the camo uniforms for those that dont know) even with my boots laced all the way up and standing at attention lol.
 
Runwildboys said:
Smoke a joint.
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lol
Must have missed this earlier.

Might be a viable option but I am already fat enough and don't need something making me even hungrier lol.

Besides...I get super hearing and it drives me nuts...I can hear a mouse fart across a field lol.
 
Not getting the required amount of REM sleep is one of the biggest challenges facing adults today and it is on the rise. It causes accidents in the workplace and on the roads and is a strong contributor to anger and depression.

Part of the problem lies in the environment we've created affecting sight and sound and the brain is a complicated organ and very responsive to light stimulation. Make your room as dark as you can, you get up in the middle of the night don't turn on the main light, keep a small flashlight and don't let it reflect into your eyes or your brain is going to think 'it's morning'.

I use a sleep machine and have it set on the steady drone of white noise and have experimented with different levels to discover the best to drown out the ambient sounds and not draw too much attention to the sound machine itself. I did find the sweet spot through experimentation. Their are also sleep apps but I find I need a deeper more resonant sound than a phone or pad can deliver.

Might make you pee but try a herbal tea an hour before bedtime and soak in a warm, not hot, tub, get out, dry off and go straight to bed and turn the lights out. Don't watch TV, read and most of all look at a computer screen, smartphone or pad. Go to bed at the same time every night and up at the same time as much as you can to train your brain. Erratic hours stimulates the brain too much and you want it to know when to shut down and when to power up.

I haven't found anything to work all the time but I have found that staying in the bed and tossing and turning increases frustration and I have an area cleared out in the den where I can pace or walk in an elliptical circle and think the thoughts I can't stop thinking. I find that the physical act of walking helps the thought pattern.

Here's another thing I have found that helps. I seek the perfect sleep position and even talk it out loud. I have a couple of herniated discs so I have to sleep on my side with a pillow between my knees or back with a pillow beneath my knees and I talk though every movement and tell myself that's perfect. I keep the room at 68, never higher, and find that adds to the comfy feeling that being in bed should give us.

Sorry about the length of this but I know just how frustrating this can be and too many docs just want to throw drugs at it and some, like Ambien, have caused more problems than insomnia. Maybe the FDA should force them to take these meds for a while before prescribing them so freely. Hell, we're all test subjects to see which company is going to have us as a customer. This entire opioid problem with the pharm companies and docs is a national disgrace. Don't get me started on that.
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
lol
Must have missed this earlier.

Might be a viable option but I am already fat enough and don't need something making me even hungrier lol.

Besides...I get super hearing and it drives me nuts...I can hear a mouse fart across a field lol.
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Back when I used to smoke, I'd hear that mouse too, but I thought it was a cop knocking on my door.
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
lol
Must have missed this earlier.

Might be a viable option but I am already fat enough and don't need something making me even hungrier lol.

Besides...I get super hearing and it drives me nuts...I can hear a mouse fart across a field lol.
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Sound machine set at the right volume on a non repeating sound can help with that. Don't do any sound that will draw you to it like the sea shore.
 
Runwildboys said:
Back when I used to smoke, I'd hear that mouse too, but I thought it was a cop knocking on my door.
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lol I could hear my friends across the house when they were whispering like I was right there...would mess with them and me.

Also on occasion would get what I would call strobe vision...where you would turn your head left to right and it would take your vision a second or two to catch up with your head.

But like I said...don't do that stuff anymore...don't need the munchies and don't need to spend the money.
Finally quite smoking cigarettes about 5 years ago and don't need to start another habit like that.
 
Runwildboys said:
I avoid taking anything to help me sleep, even when I probably should take it, for exactly the same reason.

I've also noticed that sometimes, if I just need a little help, I don't have to tell a story. I can sometimes just try to think of the type of weird things that go through your mind as you start to dream, like a raccoon doing back flips on a tire swing, while doing card tricks. That seems to fool my unconscious mind into taking over.
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Oh hell! I'd have to pop out of bed, sign in and start telling y'all about that raccoon.
 
I could have used a good deal of this advice when I used to have trouble getting to sleep when my mind would be on hyperspeed when I laid down each night. Was so frustrating.

Thankfully, as I said before, the Zyrtec really has changed that and I only started taking it on a regular basis because my allergies got so bad I was having attacks once every two weeks or more. I really am thankful that it took care of the allergies and without knowing it going in...the taking forever to get to sleep.

I had that problem even as a younger person. I remember I would get yelled at all the time for sneaking and taking nyquil (the nasty liquid at the time before the pills) to help get to sleep.

The ironic thing about it was It used to take forever to get to sleep but once I did I slept well.

Now it is the other way around, easy to get to sleep but wake up multiple times for various reasons.

That is my life...I once heard a saying that I will never forget as it fits me well.

I'ts a dog eat dog world out there and I am wearing milk bone underwear lol.
 
daschoo said:
I've got an 8 week old son so I'm definitely having problems sleeping just now! Though I must admit I get more than my wife does
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Congrats and would explain why I have seen you lately on the forums
 
Runwildboys said:
I avoid taking anything to help me sleep, even when I probably should take it, for exactly the same reason.

I've also noticed that sometimes, if I just need a little help, I don't have to tell a story. I can sometimes just try to think of the type of weird things that go through your mind as you start to dream, like a raccoon doing back flips on a tire swing, while doing card tricks. That seems to fool my unconscious mind into taking over.
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so maybe its my dream of being chased by a ufo thru my childhood street thats keeping me awake.
or being cornered in a box-canyon by a bigfoot.

wish I got the trippy racoon dream.
 
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