Adult Language Jason Garrett is soft and only a clapper?

[America's Cowboy]

Landry made the playoffs in year 6. There were less games so they lost in Championship games. It started 20 straight winning seasons..a record.,which you avoided. That set up stayed another year where they then made the playoffs and lost. In year 10 theyvwon twice. Year 11 3 times and a SB. Your bs acting like they were struggling vs JG is plain stupid. It makes you look ridiculous in today’s NFL.

You can't even get your facts straight! Coach Landry didn't make the playoffs as head coach until his 7th season, NOT 6TH.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/LandTo0.htm

Smh

 

[jchap]

Coach McGuirk had it right

 

[rpntex]

Playing to the camera...

Not according to the media types who do the walk-off thing with him at the conclusion of practices. They all say - to a man - that Garrett cusses like a sailor.

 

[rpntex]

No you are wrong! You are skipping good years to try and make a point in two different eras between a HOF coach vs one whose owner called a coach in training a few years back. You are basically being dishonest. It’s not a Garrett hate thing vs you bring clueless to the differences and what Landry accomplished. Landry had a 10 win team in 6 years and automatically played in a Championship game because the league was so small. This happened multiple years in a row where it was one and done. Then in 10 yrs 2 wins and then a SB win. Not the same vs everyone has a chance. Stop lying to fit an agenda

Actually, he's not lying. 1966 was Landry's 7th season, not his 6th. A win over the Browns that season was, as he states, his first playoff win. The second playoff win came in 1970, his 11th season (not his 10th).

I agree that you really can't objectively compare subjective matters such as this, but from a purely statistical standpoint, he's not lying.

 

[Haimerej]

So I just got around to actually watching the clip.

For all the guys talking about Garrett not being intimidating, a couple things-

He's not trying to intimidate, he's shaming. He's going after their pride as men. There is a difference.

What kind of grown man (especially a professional athlete) is going to be motivated by intimidation? I mean, do you want them to believe a coach is going to get physical? These aren't high school kids. This idea of a coach needing to intimidate grown men to motivate them just doesn't make sense to me. They know the score. They want the big payday. In this case, he's basically telling these guys, "This is why you're on the scout team and if you don't man up, you won't even be on it." Any man with an ounce of pride in himself wouldn't need more motivation. If he has to physically get in a guy's face and intimidate him so he'll play well, then the guy's probably not worth the effort.

 

[rpntex]

Please stop! Your original message said Landry won his first playoff game 6 yrs in and second 11 yrs in. False. You acted like it was a struggle, like JG. It’s pathetic when you see 8 yrs and the playoff wins. It’s sad man. Along with your alter ego posts. It you think anything is similar you should not post

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1966 (first playoff win, SEVENTH season, not his 6th)
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1970 (second playoff win, ELEVENTH season, not 10th).

It’s not a realistic comparison, I get it...but it is factually accurate.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Let me break it down for you @TexasFrog

My position on Landry is that he was given time to develop as a HC. The criticism against Garrett that I responded to in another thread (where you copy/pasted a reply you gave to AC) was talking about his record- specifically a lack of playoff success. I pointed out that Landry struggled early and using the same standard would cause someone to get rid of him. How do you think BAL feels about firing Belichick?

This isn't to say Garrett will be the next Landry. It's simply pointing out that good coaches sometimes have to have time to build their teams and figure things out. If the old DC forum were still around, you'd see I made the same argument over there. I don't think Garrett is a bad coach, but he's getting to the point where W/L matters. If this team (which he's had ample time to build) struggles again this year, then by all means get rid of him. But ask any regular from over there, I consistently point out to all the Landry congregants that before he was winning 20 seasons in a row, he was struggling and many fans from that time have said he was on the hot seat.

I always find it hilarious when people like yourself lose their minds over comparing win/loss records of football coaches at the same time in their careers. Yeah, Landry became a great coach, but it took time.

His heart can't handle the truth/facts.

Poor froggy.

Hey, Jeremiah, wasn't the old forums original egals troll named Froggy or something like that? Hmm... could it be the same Froggy migrated over here?

 

[Haimerej]

His heart can't handle the truth/facts.

Poor froggy.

Hey, Jeremiah, wasn't the old forums original egals troll named Froggy or something like that? Hmm... could it be the same Froggy migrated over here?

I have no idea. But you keep liking my stuff and he'll never be convinced we're not the same person.

 

[Haimerej]

Keep 'em coming.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I have no idea. But you keep liking my stuff and he'll never be convinced we're not the same person.

Ok, but you've/we've also got to stop talking to me/ourselves. It's not helping. I

 

[Haimerej]

Ok, but you've/we've also got to stop talking to me/ourselves. It's not helping. I

I know you haven't liked all my posts. You got some work to do.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I know you haven't liked all my posts. You got some work to do.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I know you haven't liked all my posts. You got some work to do.

Whew, I believe I liked our.. uh, I mean all of your posts on this thread. Had to go onto our... uh, I mean your profile to find out which posts I missed.

 

[Whyjerry]

Ugh. Spin doctors leaking this stuff out to dispel the notion that Garrett is soft. That is my take at least. 1 playoff win and a bunch of excuses is how I measure it.

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Uhhh, noooo, but everyone repeatedly says Garrett is soft and only claps when the players mess up, etc.

Because he does?... Lmao smh

 

[Miller]

Actually, he's not lying. 1966 was Landry's 7th season, not his 6th. A win over the Browns that season was, as he states, his first playoff win. The second playoff win came in 1970, his 11th season (not his 10th).

I agree that you really can't objectively compare subjective matters such as this, but from a purely statistical standpoint, he's not lying.

Thanks for that! I just glanced at records. My bad! My main point still stands though...after the first win he started a record 20 year winning streak and the playoffs were set up differently so a different animal altogether. So disingenuous to act like the team struggled between those two or that they were similar.

 

[Miller]

His heart can't handle the truth/facts.

Poor froggy.

Hey, Jeremiah, wasn't the old forums original egals troll named Froggy or something like that? Hmm... could it be the same Froggy migrated over here?

What truth? 99.9% of people on here..whether they support or are against JG realize he’s not similar to Landry and that they were different eras, teams and situations. If you want to keep embarrassing yourself, go for it but it’s painful to watch. You and your alter ego responding to the exact same thing with exact same arguments and phrasing is different threads and then responding back and forth is strange. Guess that .1% being crazy in same day is a miracle.

I'm always curious what drives someone to constantly complain on the internet about "their" team. Seems like a waste of time.



*Became an all time great.

Apparently Tom Coughlin was greater than Landry because he took an expansion team in the salary cap era to four consecutive playoff appearances including 2 AFC title games.



Tom had 11 Pro Bowlers during the '60's. Both sides of the ball. Let me guess- his greatness made those guys Pro Bowlers whereas Garrett's Pro Bowlers are in spite of him.



Took Tom 11 years as HC to get his second. That's against weaker competition and no salary cap.



Not Tom.



Because every team in the league does it. Name a team that's not looking for new and better pieces during the off-season.



Name any game that any staff stole.



This is where the cognitive dissonance comes in. Apparently the, "garbage coaching staff and GM," have not only assembled a, "quality roster," but you also expect a, "decent draft."



Lol. How could this be a good team? Did you forget what you typed earlier?



While you're prognosticating, could you give me the winning Powerball numbers?



If he's not concerned with actually winning, what's he doing building a, "quality roster," and, "good team"?



While the homers work on honesty, you should work on logical consistency.

I was born, grew up and still live in Tom Landry land way down in the southern tip of Texas (Rio Grande Valley). Trust me, there is no better coach of All Time than Tom Landry is in my heart and soul. Period! But he didn't coach his first winning season until his 7th season as coach. Didn't win his first playoff game until his 8th season as coach. Didn't win his second playoff game until his 11th season.

Now compare that to Garrett?

In Garrett's first season, he took over halfway through the 2010 season after the Cowboys started 1-7 and led the team to a 5-3 second half of the season. That is a winning record for his 1st year as head coach. Then he led the team to three 8-8 seasons until he finally led the team to a 12-4 record by his 5th year and his first playoff win. Should have been at least 2 playoff wins that year and a trip to the NFC Championship Game if it wasn't for the crooked officials ruling incomplete what should have been a Dez catch at the 1 yard line. Then he had the 4-12 season the following year in 2015 when Romo could not stay healthy. 2016, Dak and Zeke came along and helped Garrett lead the team to a 13-3 record and what should have been another playoff win if it hadn't been for the crooked officials once again. Last year in 2017, even though the Cowboys didn't reach the playoffs for various reasons/issues, they still finished with a winning 9-7 record and 1 regular season game win away from reaching the playoffs once again.

So, say what you want about Garrett, he has started his head coaching career better than the Great Coach Tom Landry. If you can't deal with that fact, tough cookies.

 

[Falco78]

*yawn* he wouldn't scare my 2 year old son...

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

That's rich using a Milli Vanilli song title to complain about a lack of rebuttal after knowing Milli Vanilli were fake as heck! lol. Try again.

Still nothing huh? Maybe it's time for another crying meme to symbolize your empty rhetoric, embracing of nepotism, mediocrity and a .333 post season record.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

So I just got around to actually watching the clip.

For all the guys talking about Garrett not being intimidating, a couple things-

He's not trying to intimidate, he's shaming. He's going after their pride as men. There is a difference.

What kind of grown man (especially a professional athlete) is going to be motivated by intimidation? I mean, do you want them to believe a coach is going to get physical? These aren't high school kids. This idea of a coach needing to intimidate grown men to motivate them just doesn't make sense to me. They know the score. They want the big payday. In this case, he's basically telling these guys, "This is why you're on the scout team and if you don't man up, you won't even be on it." Any man with an ounce of pride in himself wouldn't need more motivation. If he has to physically get in a guy's face and intimidate him so he'll play well, then the guy's probably not worth the effort.

1-2, .333 post season in 7 years as HC. As intimidating as a wet rag. Past time for a real coach.