To all those disappointed with LVE

[Billyd]

Lee, VDE, Smith left to right could be very good. Smith is a smart blitzer. Our revamped secondary sure could use a player like ET. A proven player with swagger. Help out the new guys. Trade our 3rd.

A thought..We were two places away from Erwin..Why do you think we give a rats a__ about Thomas?

 

[GORICO]

You are prepared to be surprised, in a good way. I've posted this before, but appropriate again. I live in Boise. Went to BSU home games. Went in person to LVE's pro day... Being as objective as I can be, this guy is, at a minimum, Karlos Dansby. At a maximum, Brian Urhlacher... Simply put, 6'4" 256 lb guys do NOT move like this guy does. He is the best coverage MLB in this draft. His backpedal is effortless and fluid. He opens his hips like a CB. And with his 6'4" height and wingspan, 39.5" vert, and great range, he closes that window in the middle of the field. Makes it so hard for QB's to fit passes into that middle seam or throw over him. In today's NFL, that is huge... Further, I believe it was proven last year that Jaylon Smith is a far better OLB, than he is a MLB. Let him come off the edge and cover TE's. LVE's instincts at MLB are so much better than Jaylon's. Plus, he weighs 256 and has room for another 10lbs without losing any quickness... Where LVE needs to improve is take on. But not because he's not physical (forget the Bobby Carpenter comparisons, they are wrong and lazy). He IS physical. But he is so athletic, he often tries (and succeeds) to slip around blockers. He will get coached up on that... Also, the draft is a projection. And LVE's athleticism is off the charts. At 256, he ran a 4.65 40. And add to that a 3 cone of 6.88. That is the SAME as Calvin Ridley and better than DJ Moore (6.95). Last, he had a vertical of 39.5". That is the SAME as DJ Moore and 8.5" higher than Ridley. For a MLB. Think about that and let it sink in. He is an athletic freak, and an ascending player... Finally, he is a really good kid. High school championships in 8 man football and basketball. He is a self made player. Walk on. Team captain. He will not stop working. He is the anti-Dez... Fellas, do not be disappointed. You will love this guy.

mr Northwest--i really appreciate your post which includes personal eye witness of the player....there is much to be said about walking on and at some point being nominated as team captain..at first i did not know what to think..because bobby carpenter and vander esche ran same 40..same 3-cone time..6.88 and same bench..20 reps..but carpenter did not do verticle at combine or pro day...and i heard barbie dove at peoples feet rather than taking on their bodies which i heard vander esche has no problem mixing it up....i now feel good about LVE...i hope he does not have an injury history waiting for him?...for he only stared one year so hard to gauge...but i like the pick and appreciate the insight you gave

 

[texbumthelife]

Urlacher played a position in a scheme at New Mexico that doesn't exist in the pro game.

Vander Esch is a better LB right now then Urlacher was when drafted, yes. Undoubtedly.

They both won Mountain West Conference Defensive Player of the Year though.

I'm gonna be honest with you, I am high as a kite right now. I just saw Avengers and it was incredible. I am totally ******* with you right now. I don't think he's Urlacher, but I'm not completely equipped to explain why I'm just seeing how long I can keep up the charade. I quit. You win.

 

[Billyd]

It's one thing to get a concussion and a season ending neck stinger. It's a whole different animal when your spinal cord ends up having some narrowing due to the impact. Cowboys had best pray that "narrowing" doesn't come back to haunt them. HUGE RISK ESPECIALLY WITH THE #19TH PICK.

Allegedly it was checked today..He great per the draft coverage..

 

[GORICO]

Our middle is ALWAYS open,hopefully LVE can change that.

redd..very true...many times we saw rb's ripping up our middle...hopefully LVE puts a stop to that

 

[Billyd]

I'm gonna be honest with you, I am high as a kite right now. I just saw Avengers and it was incredible. I am totally ******* with you right now. I don't think he's Urlacher, but I'm not completely equipped to explain why I'm just seeing how long I can keep up the charade. I quit. You win.

MY gott this guy!! LVE lucky if he comes up for air in October!

 

[TheFinisher]

I'm gonna be honest with you, I am high as a kite right now. I just saw Avengers and it was incredible. I am totally ******* with you right now. I don't think he's Urlacher, but I'm not completely equipped to explain why I'm just seeing how long I can keep up the charade. I quit. You win.

Godspeed

 

[GORICO]

Allegedly it was checked today..He great per the draft coverage..

billy---wait..does LVE have narrowing of spinal cord area?...if so....not good

 

[America's Cowboy]

Allegedly it was checked today..He great per the draft coverage..

Uh huh. The MLB constantly, play after play, puts impactful pressure on his neck when making contact and tackles. I am very queasy when it comes to spinal cord narrowings due to previous neck injuries. Those things usually get worse with time and constant more impact.

 

[alicetooljam]

How many years at how many positions did Urlacher have experience? The only reason anyone is comparing him to Urlacher is because he's white. If he turns into Urlacher, I'll have to change my pants from excitement, but right now, at this point in their careers, he's.not half what Urlacher was.

The combine measurables are very close...

Vander Esch- 6'4" 256
arm length- 33 7/8
hands- 9.75
vertical jump- 39.5
broad jump- 124
3 cone- 6.88 sec
20 yard shuttle- 4.15 sec
40 time- 4.65

Urlacher-6'3".9 258
arm length- 33
hands- 9.88
vertical jump- 34
broad jump- 122
3 cone- 6.94 sec
20 yard shuttle- 4.18 sec
40 time- 4.61

 

[GORICO]

So you live in Boise and support the Boise kid. Color me surprised. Definitely glad we didn’t move up two spots for Derwin.

i would have liked that move personally

 

[Keithfansince5]

ABOUT the best you should hope for is maybe him getting inserted for Wilson..He wont start..Smith is your mlb. On third down..Smith is faster than LVE IS NOW..This pick was JJs idea of making a splash..Not Bpa, depth or anything..I hope we find a way to use him where he is not exposed quickly!

Seriously you sound ignorant right now. Just stop while your hole you dug is as deep as it is.

He will be the starting Mike whether you like it or not. Jaylon will most likely be the will and Lee the strong. LVE is the biggest lb on our team and is their guy for MIKE. Lee is not his best at Mike because he is too small. He plays there because we have no one else who can play Mike well. Lee is a Will but is not as fast as Jaylon so he will be the Strong IMHO while Smith plays Will

Smith. LVE. Lee

Good LB corp

 

[GORICO]

As I post this I'm over the legal limit but I think it's a good pick

tangle--man just pass me some Wild turkey

 

[TwoDeep3]

Bobby Carpenter? Shut up. Please shut up. Long history on boards buys you nothing. I was there at the start.

Mind your own business.

 

[GORICO]

To all those disappointed..

Suck it, turds.

In a year or two you'll be hastily trying to hide all your 'analysis' from this offseason

gmoney--time always tells..it dont keep secrets

 

[GORICO]

Very mixed reviews. Obviously Dallas needs either he or Jaylon, if,not both, to be studs.

Hoping for the best.

Derwin was right there. And he’s gonna be damn good. I wouldn’t be wondering IF James will be good.

man we only had to move two spots too....a 4th thats all we had to give...and maybe next years 3 if we want to sell it totally..would have been worth the risk

 

[Billyd]

Hmm, at least not high, I believe that you're right. However, I think that there's a more underlying reason for us to not get Evans, as I explained. Thus, LVE was the natural choice, especially when James went off the board.

My gott man, nobody but LVE WAS EVER THE TARGET. WE COULD HAVE DRAFTED UP AND GOT edmonds or James..They were never going to try!

 

[GORICO]

He is athletic, smart, and has the stamp of approval from Lee.

Quit whining.

yeah but Lee will not rock the boat..eveyone is great from his view

 

[GORICO]

Evan is a HAMMER!

yeah but heard not so good in coverage?

 

[Hennessy_King]

The measurables are very close...

Vander Esch- 6'4" 256
arm length- 33 7/8
hands- 9.75
vertical jump- 39.5
broad jump- 124
3 cone- 6.88 sec
20 yard shuttle- 4.15 sec
40 time- 4.65

Urlacher-6'3".9 258
arm length- 33
hands- 9.88
vertical jump- 34
broad jump- 122
3 cone- 6.94 sec
20 yard shuttle- 4.18 sec
40 time- 4.61

Where's the Carpenter comparison?