The Browns are idiots

[BourbonBalz]

They could've drafted Barkley at 1 and still got Mayfield at 4. Now we have to deal with him for 5 years. He'll leave in free-agency after Odell trys to touch him in the shower.

I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure the Jets would’ve taken Mayfield at 3. Their coach pretty said as much in a round about way.

 

[Torturedcowboysfan]

Well, that works too. I suppose you're implying that you want a draft lottery?

Yes. I don't believe in rewarding mediocrity. I understand they don't want the same teams winning, but the browns have gotten multiple top 4 picks and still sucked. Its the same with the Rams. They won last year, but they had so many top picks. They raped the skins for a bunch of picks in 2012 and they're just now winning. If an organization is run better , don't punish them for it. I"m not saying the Super Bowl champs should get the 1st or second pick every year, but they should nt get the last pick either for being good.

 

[Torturedcowboysfan]

While the teams w/ the best OL's and DL's keep winning the super bowls!!!!!!

The idea of the CB's being the most important postion on the field is a silly notion started by super bowl teams so the DT's slide to them. Sad part is how well it's worked.

CB's are useless w/o a pass rush and good S's.

That's not entirely true. Remember the Jets didn't have a great pass rush, but they had Revis and Cromartie. That allowed them to blitz to compensate for not having a great pass rusher. In 2005, our defense was really good without a great pass rush. Ware was a rookie, so he wasn't great yet.

 

[jay94]

The only way they could of screwed up this draft was by drafting a rb in the first / getting Allen. The rb class was very deep this last year, also Carlos Hyde is no slouch. Also rb in the first is a mistake too considering how easy the position is to transition at the next level.

 

[DFWJC]

Yeah, but you pair Chubb up with Myles, and you have yourself an extremely powerful defensive line. At that point, you don't need an elite corner. The dline will make them look elite.

Yeah, if you're at 4 and dont want Bradleyt Chub, you trade down just a little there. Pick up the same player you took at 4, but extra picks.
Someone would pay well for that pick to grab Chub or a QB

They did end up getting pretty good back in the 2nd with Nick Chubb

 

[beware_d-ware]

Ward's really good, but come on - you can either have maybe the best OL prospect in the last 5 years or a stud edge rusher. You don't pass on those for a CB.

 

[xwalker]

They could've drafted Barkley at 1 and still got Mayfield at 4. Now we have to deal with him for 5 years. He'll leave in free-agency after Odell trys to touch him in the shower.

How much do they pay you as the Browns GM...

 

[BAT]

Although the perception was that Mayfield was not the top QB in this draft, that does not mean NFL people thought the same. W/ the huge question marks surrounding every QB in this draft, I'm not sure Mayfield wasn't the top prospect. If he were 2 inches taller, he would easily be the top QB in this draft. So, if you need a QB and you have the first pick, you take the one you perceive as the best, don't dick around and don't get cute, you take him.

Now taking a CB at 4 over Chubb and Nelson, that was dumb!!!

Especially when we would have given them OScan for free.

 

[jay94]

According to plenty of teams and PFF Mayfield was the clear number 1 QB in this draft. Idgaf if Barkley is the best rb in this draft, rb is the least important position to draft in the league, look at all the late rounders running rampant at running back position. There is no value to getting a rb early. At the moment it's more of a passing game as well which further devalues the positon regardless if they are effective out of the backfield and not and hell there are teams like the Cowboys that don't really even take advantage of that aspect.

 

[CPanther95]

I'd never call a team stupid for not wanting to spend a top 4 pick on a RB.

 

[Pants]

I personally think that Mayfield will be the best QB in this draft (said that before and after the draft), so from that perspective, I think that they made the correct choice @ #1...I am going to guess that there must have been rumblings that the jets were going to take him @ #3, so they took him when they did to make sure they got their guy....also, I understand taking barkley at #2 for the giants, I don't see Darnold being all that good....average at best...I could see Josh Allen be the 2nd best QB in this draft.....the only thing that puzzled me a little for the Browns in the first was Ward over Chubb, but if they think he is a true shut-down corner, then that pick is ok too

 

[visionary]

They could've drafted Barkley at 1 and still got Mayfield at 4. Now we have to deal with him for 5 years. He'll leave in free-agency after Odell trys to touch him in the shower.

Time will tell I guess
The Browns may be idiots but only if Mayfield does not turn out to be great. I think he can.

There are very real questions about Darnold and Rosen did not have the mental make up to go to a place like Cleveland. If I were Cleveland I would have signed Cousins in FA and be done with it.

BTW, you might have missed it but the browns have possible the best RB group in the league.

 

[timb2]

Although the perception was that Mayfield was not the top QB in this draft, that does not mean NFL people thought the same. W/ the huge question marks surrounding every QB in this draft, I'm not sure Mayfield wasn't the top prospect. If he were 2 inches taller, he would easily be the top QB in this draft. So, if you need a QB and you have the first pick, you take the one you perceive as the best, don't dick around and don't get cute, you take him.

Now taking a CB at 4 over Chubb and Nelson, that was dumb!!!

I agree but did you see that cop chase down Mayfield when he was drunk running away? If some guy who lives on doughnuts is chasing you down? You should not be the top pick in the draft.

 

[kskboys]

That's not entirely true. Remember the Jets didn't have a great pass rush, but they had Revis and Cromartie. That allowed them to blitz to compensate for not having a great pass rusher. In 2005, our defense was really good without a great pass rush. Ware was a rookie, so he wasn't great yet.

Yes, but that doesn't work in the playoffs. You gotta pressure the opposing QB to beat the good ones.

NE just lost a super bowl because they couldn't pressure Foles, and he's a journeyman.

 

[kskboys]

I agree but did you see that cop chase down Mayfield when he was drunk running away? If some guy who lives on doughnuts is chasing you down? You should not be the top pick in the draft.

Except if you're in a position where speed is not the primary asset.

 

[kskboys]

Time will tell I guess
The Browns may be idiots but only if Mayfield does not turn out to be great. I think he can.

There are very real questions about Darnold and Rosen did not have the mental make up to go to a place like Cleveland. If I were Cleveland I would have signed Cousins in FA and be done with it.

BTW, you might have missed it but the browns have possible the best RB group in the league.

I didn't. Hyde took away all the need for RB, and he's an inside bruiser.

 

[kskboys]

Ward's really good, but come on - you can either have maybe the best OL prospect in the last 5 years or a stud edge rusher. You don't pass on those for a CB.

Yup. The whole league has the strange obsession w/ CB's and WR's, overvaluing them grossly, while undervaluing RB's, even though RB's who can get those tough inside yds clearly make a monster of a difference.

 

[BAT]

Time will tell I guess
The Browns may be idiots but only if Mayfield does not turn out to be great. I think he can.

There are very real questions about Darnold and Rosen did not have the mental make up to go to a place like Cleveland. If I were Cleveland I would have signed Cousins in FA and be done with it.

BTW, you might have missed it but the browns have possible the best RB group in the league.

History is not on Browns side. But getting Chubb in the 2nd makes the Mayfield pick moot in my mind. Chubb is an excellent RB and he was ranked as high or higher than Barkley prior to 2017.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Yes. I don't believe in rewarding mediocrity. I understand they don't want the same teams winning, but the browns have gotten multiple top 4 picks and still sucked. Its the same with the Rams. They won last year, but they had so many top picks. They raped the skins for a bunch of picks in 2012 and they're just now winning. If an organization is run better , don't punish them for it. I"m not saying the Super Bowl champs should get the 1st or second pick every year, but they should nt get the last pick either for being good.

I agree with you there.

 

[btcutter]

Teams look to build around quarterbacks. You don't just hope the future of your franchise will fall to your spot. So if you have the #1 pick, and you're sold on a QB, you take him.

As far as Barkley, he's a stud and it's going to suck to face him, but I'd 100x rather the Giants draft him than a potential star QB. Barkley plus Davis Webb is easy to beat.

Completely agree. We've see Gurley without a QB and with.

Barkley is a short term band-aid to Gmen's problem. If they don't have a top 3 pick within next 3 years then they will need to mortgage the future to get into top of 1st round to pick a QB.