News: BTB: Dak Was Never the Problem, It Was the Receivers. Here’s the Proof

jrumann59

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Dak won't be chained to Dez or dominant route reliance for development. That will get the ball out much earlier, generally, this season.
Except he was late to all of his receivers or flat out missed them being open. Throwing to the outside receivers is going to be less comp % wise than throwing to Beasley or Witten at 7 yards. Where you see his struggles is when he throws and his receiver has to stop, dive or contort to catch balls because the ball is not at the spot its supposed to be gameplan wise. Remember the pick 6 on a pass to RB he throw 3 feet over his head feeling a rush that really was not there and the outside DB not even covering the RB intercepts and returns. If you are erratic short you are going to be erratic long.
 

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The writer starts with a premise but doesn’t actually prove the premise.

It’s going to be an interesting year for Dak. There won’t be a ton of excuses if this passing game fails. He’s not nearly as bad as some would like you to think but he absolutely had some issues last year that need to get fixed.

Anyone denying that is a total fool.

Both passing scheme and personnel both has changed. That makes any projection dependent upon concept and quality of players asked to execute changes.

With that in mind, who can someone even begin to throw out labels of tool?
 

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Hate to break the news, but the article (it's a fan blog) is pure trash.

Look at the first half from second half season splits; Dak's YPA and comp. % we're down even with Tyron and Zeke.

Sure, losing both of those guys didn't help either but I know for a fact that I posted about Dak's erratic accuracy during the first quarter of the season.
 
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Except he was late to all of his receivers or flat out missed them being open. Throwing to the outside receivers is going to be less comp % wise than throwing to Beasley or Witten at 7 yards. Where you see his struggles is when he throws and his receiver has to stop, dive or contort to catch balls because the ball is not at the spot its supposed to be gameplan wise. Remember the pick 6 on a pass to RB he throw 3 feet over his head feeling a rush that really was not there and the outside DB not even covering the RB intercepts and returns. If you are erratic short you are going to be erratic long.

Always make up points to suite your own arguments?

Sorry, your version of proof is vainly lacking in validation.

Fact is, Dak was very good - both in the short and long passing game.

Sorry if that isn't convenient for a burn barrel buddy orientation test...
 

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Anything that continues that narrative of the herd mentality will be accepted as gospel here. His problems were blatant last season and was called out by analysts, other players, former players and Garrett himself. It's cool though, nothing is wrong with Dak and it's all the receivers, coordinators, fans, mascot, coach, offensive line fault. I wonder if Romo would have got this kind of pass if he went 10 consecutive quarters without a TD?
 

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Hate to break the news, but the article (it's a fan blog) is pure trash.

Look at the first half from second half season splits; Dak's YPA and comp. % even with Tyron and Zeke.

If you include slander...at least own up and provide the 'real' facts.

If not, then how long does it take hydrogen sulfide to kill a lame ***? 10 seconds
 

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Anything that continues that narrative of the herd mentality will be accepted as gospel here. His problems were blatant last season and was called out by analysts, other players, former players and Garrett himself. It's cool though, nothing is wrong with Dak and it's all the receivers, coordinators, fans, mascot, coach, offensive line fault. I wonder if Romo would have got this kind of pass if he went 10 consecutive quarters without a TD?

Your quarter...but no real proof, friend.
 

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Always make up points to suite your own arguments?

Sorry, your version of proof is vainly lacking in validation.

Fact is, Dak was very good - both in the short and long passing game.

Sorry if that isn't convenient for a burn barrel buddy orientation test...

I watched all but 1 game last year. Instead of leading his receivers into YAC he led them into tackles, not blow up tackles, but essentially made them slow down or stop which led to limited YAC. Who is going to believe every receiver on this team failed but the one guy that was throwing it was on point. If anything his receivers made catches in spite of some of his "issues".
 

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I haven’t written a post in a while, but seeing comments that continue to reflect ignorance about Dak Prescott’s performance the past two years has spurred me into action.

I humbly ask that people read the whole article and digest it before sticking with their anti-Dak beliefs.

A few inconvenient facts for those that believe Dak isn’t a franchise QB.

COMPLETION PERCENTAGE

Rookie year: 67.8

Year two: 62.9

It fell off a bit with more pressure and sacks given up by the offensive line and the absence of Zeke for six games, combined with some pretty horrendous game planning by coaches. Also, the fact that Dez was no longer a true number one receiver was a massive problem, because he was still demanding excessive targets and getting them.

That second year percentage for Dak was still better than Carson Wentz or Jared Goff.

YARDS PER COMPLETION

If you believe Dak is only good for short passes, your beliefs are wrong. Sorry, but the facts clearly blow up that myth.

COMPLETED AIR YARDS

Rookie year: 7.5

Second year: 6.6

His rookie year, Dak had an average completion percentage through the air that was higher than Tom Brady, Carson Wentz or Drew Brees.

As everyone knows, the offensive line had protection issues in 2017. Dak had less time to throw. Zeke was gone for six games.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...problem-it-was-the-receivers-here-s-the-proof
Our receivers were worse than average. The play calling was lets say,uninspiring and honestly, lazy. Worse than that, the left side of the oline was complete trash. We thought we could put anyone out there at LG..and we had no real plan for swing tackle. It failed miserably.
 

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But they were the exact same WR’s he was throwing to when he had a great year in ‘16. The entire WR Corp all regressed in the off season? How does that even make sense??

I know I’m beating a dead horse, but the coaching staff failed the team last year. No doubt both Dak and the WR’s could have been better, but opposing coordinators figured out our scheme (because it was the exact same from the year before) and we had absolutely no counter punch. Just more insisting on execution rather than game plan to help the offense.
 

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All that matters in this league is wins. This is especially true at the QB position. I'd personally take Aikman over Marino any day of the week.

He will be judged by Ws and not any other stat.
wins in the playoffs are important in the nfl that's what most people go on
 

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But they were the exact same WR’s he was throwing to when he had a great year in ‘16. The entire WR Corp all regressed in the off season? How does that even make sense??

I know I’m beating a dead horse, but the coaching staff failed the team last year. No doubt both Dak and the WR’s could have been better, but opposing coordinators figured out our scheme (because it was the exact same from the year before) and we had absolutely no counter punch. Just more insisting on execution rather than game plan to help the offense.
those receivers played well that year. The next,not so much.Linehan did the team no favors.
 

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So what exactly is a Dak hater. Someone that sees his warts and does not pretend that everything is fine it must be the 52 other people on the teams that have issues.

Why the compulsion to declare a Dak hater or non-hater?

If Dak has a good year...he gets a lucrative contract next. If not, then the Cowboys start to look for another quarterback.

But for the record, they didn't sit Romo until after they evaluated Dak as a franchise candidate already.
 

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I watched all but 1 game last year. Instead of leading his receivers into YAC he led them into tackles, not blow up tackles, but essentially made them slow down or stop which led to limited YAC. Who is going to believe every receiver on this team failed but the one guy that was throwing it was on point. If anything his receivers made catches in spite of some of his "issues".

That statement will be very hard to prove and verify beyond assumptions...
 

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Both passing scheme and personnel both has changed. That makes any projection dependent upon concept and quality of players asked to execute changes.

With that in mind, who can someone even begin to throw out labels of tool?

It’s an applicable label. Dak’s issues last year were not tied strictly to those around him. He made mistakes himself and got sloppy with mechanics, etc. He also wasn’t one of the worst QBs like others would like to believe.

Denying either fact makes someone a fool.
 
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