Chris Carter On Randy Gregory

[TheMarathonContinues]

I root for him. I've seen how the life went for Roy Tarpley to even Rolando McClain. I just hope he comes back when he's ready mentally and he seems to have a great support system. Not a big fan of Chris Carter but gained a new respect for him. I thought he was kind of hard on Josh Gordon but he knows better than anyone on what these guys need.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well if we are going to play this game, then the blame goes higher than Gregory. The Cowboys front office drafted this kid knowing he had a drug issue. So if anyone failed the team, it was the front office who took a risk on a guy they knew might have a weed problem.

Yep, they knew ahead of time he had issues and felt they could turn him around, hell Gregory himself talk about learning his lesson and how he had it under control, yet he didn't. Another thing being left out in all of this, he is a FA after this season.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anything that you can't control is an issue. Legal or not.

Food is legal and more than half of the US population is considered obese. Alcohol is legal but you cant show up to work drunk. Or drive drunk.

I don't think it was just that Gregory liked to smoke a little. I think it was controlling his life.

Yes, its unfortunate that some states have legalized it and others haven't. Should be legal everywhere. But that still doesn't mean one should be smoking up 4 or 5+ times throughout the day. Especially during the season.

Even in states where it is legal, courts have sided with business who can still test their employees and reprimand those who fail drug test for marijuana

 

[Dorsett33]

Heres the thing that always kinda bothered me the most about Gregory. I remember watching this. When UW decided to drop the hammer on him and beat him up a little,.... he kinda rolled over after awhile/ kinda gave up and just took the beating. Didnt like that. Worse yet,...UW always has a dominant O line, but in those couple years it was rebuilding/ in flux and was nowhere near as good as it normally is.


" Weaknesses

Thin through trunk and will play with a narrow base, causing balance issues. Almost always last player out of his stance at snap. Technique and feel as pass rusher lacking at this point. Thinks rather than plays. Takes occasional false steps as stand-up rusher. Time-waster. Too much time stutter-stepping tackles rather than exploding upfield. Fails to stress the high side of tackles to get them rocking. Makes it too easy for tackles to quick-set him. Plays man in front of him rather than "seeing through" to quarterback. Lacks creativity as rusher. Gets punched with his shoulders still squared rather than on an angle, which robs ability to turn edge. Doesn't process what he sees very quickly. Marginal play strength in pass rush and can be redirected. Was manhandled by Wisconsin blockers on two long touchdown runs by Melvin Gordon. Issues with positive drug tests are a significant concern."

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/randy-gregory?id=2552446

Well....he was projected as a 1st round pick. All players have had bad games.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Yep, they knew ahead of time he had issues and felt they could turn him around, hell Gregory himself talk about learning his lesson and how he had it under control, yet he didn't. Another thing being left out in all of this, he is a FA after this season.

No he's not. We have his rights for the next three seasons.

 

[Doomsday101]

How this will play out is currently a matter for debate, as neither the CBA nor the NFL-NFLPA Drug and Substance Abuse Policy are clear.

One way this plays out is that since Gregory didn’t log a single snap in 2017, his contract tolls. That means the salary for 2017 is what he will make in 2018 (if reinstated) and his 2018 salary will now move to 2019. At that point, he would see restricted free agency, and if no long-term deal was made (with Dallas or a club signing him to an offer sheet) he would see unrestricted free agency in 2020.

The other way is that he simply didn’t receive any of his 2017 salary and that closes the book on that contract year. 2018 will play out as it is in his contract, and then at the conclusion of the year, Gregory would be an exclusive-rights free agent going into 2019. That would be because he’d be out of contract but only had two years of accrued service. This would then make Gregory a RFA in 2020, meaning the first year he’d be unrestricted wouldn’t be until 2021.

As an ERFA in 2019, Dallas would simply have to say they want him back, and he’d be a Cowboy the next season.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...oll-restricted-unrestricted-exclusive-rights/

 

[zrinkill]

So do you not care if Charlton ever plays a down for us again?

Taco put football before weed ....... Taco played 16 games .......... Taco is here .............

If Gregory was a rookie last year and put up those stats I would be fine with him being in the rotation ...... but he is a 4 year Vet who has played 14 games.

Again if you do o see the difference there is no point in arguing with you

A rookie has played more games than a 4 year Vet.

 

[jazzcat22]

I hope Randy Gregory has got his life in order and has a great life going forward.

As far as Randy Gregory the Pro football player, he never showed anything on the field in the 14games he played for us, so I don't really care if he never plays another down.

Yes he did. Your opinion is clouded by your dislike for him.

 

[zrinkill]

I was just about to say the same thing. It's like if our players don't play like pro bowlers within their first 8 games, then get rid of em. Lol.

What a stupid take ......... he is a 4 year vet who has played 14 games.

 

[Sydla]

Taco put football before weed ....... Taco played 16 games .......... Taco is here .............

If Gregory was a rookie last year and put up those stats I would be fine with him being in the rotation ...... but he is a 4 year Vet who has played 14 games.

Again if you do o see the difference there is no point in arguing with you

A rookie has played more games than a 4 year Vet.

You realize you've now shifted the goal posts. So Charlton's start isn't a concern because he didn't have a weed issue but Gregory's start is much worse because he has a weed problem.

You basically just undercut your original premise where you claimed your only issue with him is from a production standpoint.

 

[zrinkill]

Yes he did. Your opinion is clouded by your dislike for him.

I have no dislike for him ........ the fact is he showed less in 14 games than Taco did.

 

[zrinkill]

You realize you've now shifted the goal posts. So Charlton's start isn't a concern because he didn't have a weed issue but Gregory's start is much worse because he has a weed problem.

You basically just undercut your original premise that you don't have a personal issue with him you just have a production issue with him. Because it's clear you have a personal issue with him.

No ........ Taco has better stats than him in 14 games ........ and Taco was a rookie ....... not a 4 year Vet.

 

[Sydla]

No ........ Taco has better stats than him in 14 games ........ and Taco was a rookie ....... not a 4 year Vet.

Well for starters, Gregory didn't accumulate his stats as a 4 year vet. He accumulated them basically as a rookie as well. So the 4 year vet comment makes no sense. You were the one who offered up what Gregory did as essentially a rookie as being largely blah.

Secondly, only a fool argues that Taco's start was significantly better than Gregory's to the point where you can say Charlton showed so much more as to not call him a bust but Gregory didn't show anything in his first 14 games.

 

[TheBigEasy]

No ........ Taco has better stats than him in 14 games ........ and Taco was a rookie ....... not a 4 year Vet.

Huh? Who is this '4-year vet' you speak of? And if you remember, Gregory was hurt and playing on a high ankle sprain when he was on the field so you're comparing apples to oranges.

 

[jazzcat22]

What worries me most is that all this time and effort has been put into Gregory................ Only to have him turn out to be a JAG. Something that could very EASILY happen btw considering how much time he has missed. I was never really all that impressed with him as a player in the first place let alone how rusty he will be now. I dunno,.... hope for the best I guess but sure arent counting on much.

JAG is such an overused and misused term. I hate Parcels for saying that.
And I disagree with you about his potential of being a JAG or not. If he is, then I blame it on the coaching as well. They have screwed up many players before.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Hurry up and sign Hankins so we can wreak havoc on the world with Gregory - Irving - Hankins - Lawrence.

 

[Doomsday101]

JAG is such an overused and misused term. I hate Parcels for saying that.
And I disagree with you about his potential of being a JAG or not. If he is, then I blame it on the coaching as well. They have screwed up many players before.

I can understanding faulting the team for selecting a player but it is hard to say the coaches screwed Gregory play when he has not even been on the field because of his inability to stay clean.

 

[zrinkill]

Secondly, only a fool argues that Taco's start was significantly better than Gregory's to the point where you can say Charlton showed so much more as to not call him a bust but Gregory didn't show anything in his first 14 games.

Never called him a bust ........ just said it was not impressive. He never improved on his first 14 games because he has missed most of the games since he was drafted back in 2015.

 

[jazzcat22]

This may sound crazy but I would have a higher level of compassion and understanding if he was hooked on crack or alcohol. To me if you can not stop smoking weed it has just as much to do about yourself than it does anything else. He just does not care enough about football or the team or anything else to quit. He is selfish and would rather just smoke dope and complain about how he should be allowed to smoke dope. I am not even against smoking dope. The fact that they are not allowed to is stupid IMHO. The point remains that if he gave a flying flip about anything but himself he would have put the bong down until his football career was over. I would not trust someone who can not break a weed habit with anything. IMHO it solidifies their weak mental fortitude.

And he has been clean for 2 years now, but yet you troll out this crap.
You never made mistakes, are you so perfect you look down upon any one that does not fit your beliefs ....if so, then you are not perfect, as a perfect person would find it to forgive someone and praise them for turning their life around.

 

[zrinkill]

Huh? Who is this '4-year vet' you speak of?

I am talking about since his first year ........ keep up.