T.O has a point here regardless of JG success

[Roadtrip635]

Imagine if Garrett were fired tomorrow and replaced by Marvin Lewis. I bet there are actually people here that would claim that the team somehow got worse.

Marv Lewis is probably Garrett's role model and Garrett is probably president of the Marv Lewis Fan Club. 15 years without taking his team to a conference championship and still has his job and the confidence of ownership, Garrett is halfway there.

 

[Alexander]

Marv Lewis is probably Garrett's role model and Garrett is probably president of the Marv Lewis Fan Club. 15 years without taking his team to a conference championship and still has his job and the confidence of ownership, Garrett is halfway there.

As long as the Joneses behave like the Browns and have the same loser expectations, he is gold.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Tell that to San Francisco, Philadelphia, Dallas, Buffalo, and Cincinnati.

TO was a pain in the arse to deal with, but when it came to football the dude balled out.

You don't get enshrined into the Hall of Fame by accident, TO was one of the best WRs to ever play this game.

Jason Garrett dam sure aint getting enshrined in the HOF with his one career playoff win

 

[Alexander]

Jason Garrett dam sure aint getting enshrined in the HOF with his one career playoff win

He might make it into the fan boy Ring of Honor though.

Afterall, he is a former Cowboy player. Had that big Thanksgiving Day win. Clearly a Jones Company Man.

What more does he need for enshrinement?

 

[Beast_from_East]

TO is bitter towards Garrett? Yes, the hall of fame legend is bitter towards that loser. Ok. Yet he has nothing but good things to say about Romo.

Only way Jason Garrett is ever going to see the Hall of Fame is if he buys a ticket like all of us.

 

[Beast_from_East]

He might make it into the fan boy Ring of Honor though.

Afterall, he is a former Cowboy player. Had that big Thanksgiving Day win. Clearly a Jones Company Man.

What more does he need for enshrinement?

LOL...……….good point my friend.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Who in the world would listen to a playa who danced on the Star, threatened suicide over losing his GF and who's enormous ego was just slightly bigger than his mouth.

DONT LISTEN TO THE PLAYER THEN!!!

Everybody ask yourself one single question..............should an NFL head coach that has won just a single playoff game after 8 years on the job be fired or retained?

Keep in mind that Marvin Lewis is the only other head coach in the NFL right now that has been with his current team as long as Garrett has been with the Cowboys and has won a single playoff game or less. Everybody else has been fired.

Also, no head coach in NFL history has won just a single playoff game his first 8 seasons in the league and went on to coach that team in a SB. Never has happened in the history of the league.

So everybody saying retain Garrett, you guys think Garrett is going to do something no other person on the planet has ever done? Apparently so, because why else would you retain him if you didn't think he would ever reach the SB?

 

[DHCBF66]

We have all been saying it. JJ likes him because he is likely a yes man. He doesn’t require the power most HC demand.

The o-line alone points to Garrett, JJ never in all his years selected o-line in the 1st round, then Zeke with the #4 pick, love people who call Garrett a "yes man" when they have no clue as to what goes on behind closed doors/ AND no, not a Garrett fan,but he was around playing for the Cowboys when Jimmy was around and he knows a dominant run game needs a powerful o-line. He still needs to realize that defense is a HUGE part of it!

 

[Beast_from_East]

The misconception by most Cowboy fans is that Garrett hasn’t had any success.

The scoreboard says the following.....one playoff win.......8 years on the job......Marvin Lewis only HC with similar stats

That aint no dam misconception, that's called reality.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I don't. The only difference is that Lewis got his team to the playoffs more.

Lewis has more playoff appearances, but no wins.

Garrett has a playoff win, but misses the playoffs roughly 75% of the seasons he has been the head coach.

They really are mirror images of each other.......... both field competitive teams, both won COTY, and both never win jack in the playoffs.

 

[plymkr]

The point I’m making is that others (besides yourself) believe Owens is this terrible human walking this earth but in the same breath have nothing but praise for Michael Irvin. Why? Because he helped your football team win titles. They could care less about anything off the field as it relates to being a “terrible human being” as you put it. “He helped us win so let me justify his action.”

If you step away from your keyboard and walk outside and ask someone if they think a person who is a “locker room cancer in the nfl” a terrible human being they are probably going to say no.

In that same breath, If you pose that same question regarding a person who’s stabbed someone (a teammate at that) they’d probably say “yes he’s a terrible human being.”

I just find it amazing that people can use that type of language towards someone so loosely. So if TO is a terrible human being what’s a rapist? Child molester? It has to be something far worse than terrible human being.

But maybe not on CZ as if that same rapist or child molester helped the team they root for win rings, if wouldn’t matter

I'm confused. Was Michael Irvin convicted of rape? I remember in '96 a woman said that Irvin held a gun to her head and Erik Williams raped her. Then she recanted and said she made the whole thing up and the police didn't bother to investigate.

Irvin acted poorly when he played. He made a lot of destructive decisions. Fortunately for him the age of the internet didn't take off yet. Once Irvin retired he started making better decisions.

I personally wouldn't label anyone a terrible person because people can learn from their mistakes and grow as a person. Like TO was a cancer in the locker room, Irvin stabbed a teammate. Both bad things but both men have shown to grow and mature. What's unfortunate for TO is he played in the age of the internet which magnifies everything. But just because you have a troubled past doesn't mean a person will live a troubled life. People can change. Irvin changed, TO changed, Pacman is doing better, Vick is doing better, randy moss is doing better, Leon Lett is doing great and he had substance abuse problems big time back in the day. Even Gregory has made changes in his life, and that's something I never thought would happen.

 

[Alexander]

Listen up people.

If you are a real Cowboys fan, you should hate Terrell Owens.

Especially if he attacks our current head coach.

Get it? Got it? Good.

 

[stilltheguru88]

I'm confused. Was Michael Irvin convicted of rape? I remember in '96 a woman said that Irvin held a gun to her head and Erik Williams raped her. Then she recanted and said she made the whole thing up and the police didn't bother to investigate.

Irvin acted poorly when he played. He made a lot of destructive decisions. Fortunately for him the age of the internet didn't take off yet. Once Irvin retired he started making better decisions.

I personally wouldn't label anyone a terrible person because people can learn from their mistakes and grow as a person. Like TO was a cancer in the locker room, Irvin stabbed a teammate. Both bad things but both men have shown to grow and mature. What's unfortunate for TO is he played in the age of the internet which magnifies everything. But just because you have a troubled past doesn't mean a person will live a troubled life. People can change. Irvin changed, TO changed, Pacman is doing better, Vick is doing better, randy moss is doing better, Leon Lett is doing great and he had substance abuse problems big time back in the day. Even Gregory has made changes in his life, and that's something I never thought would happen.

It’s the internet. People can log on and talk as if they won a novel peace prize and call others terrible human beings. Ain’t it beautiful? Bringing up his Dr Phil issues and whatnot. Just a bunch of clown stuff around here. Win for the anonymous internet where nobody can check YOUR flawless background

 

[glimmerman]

The o-line alone points to Garrett, JJ never in all his years selected o-line in the 1st round, then Zeke with the #4 pick, love people who call Garrett a "yes man" when they have no clue as to what goes on behind closed doors/ AND no, not a Garrett fan,but he was around playing for the Cowboys when Jimmy was around and he knows a dominant run game needs a powerful o-line. He still needs to realize that defense is a HUGE part of it!

Words from the tuna when he was coach. If you want me to cook the meal then you have to let me buy the ingredients. Words from JJ after the tuna left was he won’t give another HC that much power again. That’s where I get it from.

Now I won’t even pretend to know what goes on behind closed doors and I am not saying JJ hasn’t changed his mind. And I agree that they finally went back to more of a winning formula from the 90’s with the dominant O-Line. But isn’t that what most teams want? Defense helps you win it all, providing the fact your Offense can put up points. You don’t put up points if you can’t throw the ball and protect your QB.

JG and JJ are running out of scapegoats for failed seasons and lack of playoff wins. Seems the team gets out coached in big games.

 

[Jipper]

As long as the Joneses behave like the Browns and have the same loser expectations, he is gold.

.the cowboys are no where near the Browns and don't even remotly deserve that comparison...no matter how much you clearly hate JJ thats just a dramatic and untrue statement to make

 

[Diehardblues]

The scoreboard says the following.....one playoff win.......8 years on the job......Marvin Lewis only HC with similar stats

That aint no dam misconception, that's called reality.

Reality for Jerry says he’s doing a fine job. That’s the only reality that counts.

Marvin Lewis is also doing a fine job. He’s taken the Bengals to as many playoffs as they’d been to the 40 years before he arrived.

You see a coach with playoff futility . Ownership sees a consistent contender which keeps the team relevant and a product easier to sell hope.

 

[Diehardblues]

In today’s NFL where Parity is the gospel .500 teams are a much easier product to promote and sell hope with.

Almost every team each year knows going in they have at least a small shot to contend for playoffs. That’s the driving force .

Before the Cap era there were realistically handful of teams each year which true chances to seriously contend. Similar to what we are seeing in NBA when talent is stacked on a few teams.

The worse case scenario for Jerry is 1-7 or 3 straight 5-11. Jerry can promote and sell 8-8.

 

[northerncowboynation]

DONT LISTEN TO THE PLAYER THEN!!!

Everybody ask yourself one single question..............should an NFL head coach that has won just a single playoff game after 8 years on the job be fired or retained?

Keep in mind that Marvin Lewis is the only other head coach in the NFL right now that has been with his current team as long as Garrett has been with the Cowboys and has won a single playoff game or less. Everybody else has been fired.

Also, no head coach in NFL history has won just a single playoff game his first 8 seasons in the league and went on to coach that team in a SB. Never has happened in the history of the league.

So everybody saying retain Garrett, you guys think Garrett is going to do something no other person on the planet has ever done? Apparently so, because why else would you retain him if you didn't think he would ever reach the SB?

Bravo dude

 

[Alexander]

.the cowboys are no where near the Browns and don't even remotly deserve that comparison...no matter how much you clearly hate JJ thats just a dramatic and untrue statement to make

When I said "Browns" I meant the family that owns the Bengals. Not the Cleveland Browns.

If you think they are that much different from that organization, you really need to get a grip.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

I'm confused. Was Michael Irvin convicted of rape? I remember in '96 a woman said that Irvin held a gun to her head and Erik Williams raped her. Then she recanted and said she made the whole thing up and the police didn't bother to investigate.

Irvin acted poorly when he played. He made a lot of destructive decisions. Fortunately for him the age of the internet didn't take off yet. Once Irvin retired he started making better decisions.

I personally wouldn't label anyone a terrible person because people can learn from their mistakes and grow as a person. Like TO was a cancer in the locker room, Irvin stabbed a teammate. Both bad things but both men have shown to grow and mature. What's unfortunate for TO is he played in the age of the internet which magnifies everything. But just because you have a troubled past doesn't mean a person will live a troubled life. People can change. Irvin changed, TO changed, Pacman is doing better, Vick is doing better, randy moss is doing better, Leon Lett is doing great and he had substance abuse problems big time back in the day. Even Gregory has made changes in his life, and that's something I never thought would happen.

I actually don’t think Irvin is a terrible person either but trying to put things in perspective since one poster said TO is a terrible human for what he’s done in the nfl which is ridiculously extreme to anyone outside of CZ