How will Dak's 3rd year turn out?

[Doomsday101]

I think he will have another decent year but his stats will go down. This team is going to run run run....you lose Witt and Dez those numbers have to drop. Slow start to the season but numbers will pick up as the year progresses...so book these numbers...

3750 yards passing 16 td 11 ints 6 rushing tds

I'm hoping he can keep the ints in single digits myself and higher on the TD passes than you are predicting. I fully agree Dallas will run the ball, heck they ran the ball in 2016 as well, not sure you can consistently feed Zeke at that rate as we did his rookie season.

 

[Silver N Blue]

I'm hoping he can keep the ints in single digits myself and higher on the TD passes than you are predicting. I fully agree Dallas will run the ball, heck they ran the ball in 2016 as well, not sure you can consistently feed Zeke at that rate as we did his rookie season.

I agree with your statement and hopes. There will be a learning curve for both Hurns and the rookie though and that usually means a decline in stats. Again just my opinion here but you don't lose a Witt and get rid of Dez in the same offseason and expect better numbers. I think he gets off to a slow start and his numbers will be more on par with his first two seasons as the season progresses.

 

[PhillySpecial]

Zeke isn't a running QB like those guys. Run pass option doesn't mean to fake a run, it means he reads the defense and takes what is given to him. The playnactipli described was just for effect. Lol

Teams shied away from the RPO when Suggs hit Bradford in his surgically repaired knee during a preseason game. The NFL said if the QB fakes having the ball he can be legally hit. If the QB gives the appearance of having the ball, he's fair game to hit.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree with your statement and hopes. There will be a learning curve for both Hurns and the rookie though and that usually means a decline in stats. Again just my opinion here but you don't lose a Witt and get rid of Dez in the same offseason and expect better numbers. I think he gets off to a slow start and his numbers will be more on par with his first two seasons as the season progresses.

I agree however Dak can't lock in or force balls if he avoids that he can lower the ints. It is not always the plays you make but plays you avoid. He needs to be smart with the ball

 

[Silver N Blue]

I agree however Dak can't lock in or force balls if he avoids that he can lower the ints. It is not always the plays you make but plays you avoid. He needs to be smart with the ball

Agree let's hope he is getting better with his accuracy and locking down on his option. We will see soon enough.

 

[HungryLion]

Teams shied away from the RPO when Suggs hit Bradford in his surgically repaired knee during a preseason game. The NFL said if the QB fakes having the ball he can be legally hit. If the QB gives the appearance of having the ball, he's fair game to hit.

That was a read option play, not an RPO.

An RPO calls for the QB to throw the ball immediately after the playfake. The only way it opens them up to being hit, is if the defender gets immediate pressure after the snap. Which would be a risk on any passing play.

 

[Ranching]

Teams shied away from the RPO when Suggs hit Bradford in his surgically repaired knee during a preseason game. The NFL said if the QB fakes having the ball he can be legally hit. If the QB gives the appearance of having the ball, he's fair game to hit.

RPO's are not fakes, they are pre-snap reads. Zone/Read options are what you are referring too.

 

[GORICO]

well said, and way to know yourself....its understandable to have a bad attitude toward the team given the past 20 years....there are many posters on here that are very jaded yet don't have the ability to understand why they feel the way they do, all they know is anger...you sir know who you are and its refreshing, kudos.

I hope you enjoy this season more than any season you have in the past 23 years....

Jipper--- do you mind me asking if you have a spiritual component in your life?...it seems by reading your posts that you might?

 

[GORICO]

That was a read option play, not an RPO.

An RPO calls for the QB to throw the ball immediately after the playfake. The only way it opens them up to being hit, is if the defender gets immediate pressure after the snap. Which would be a risk on any passing play.

dakpresgoat--- i read up a little more on RPO's...and yes QB must throw quickly because in an RPO the O line is blocking as if a run play and it is a penalty in NFL for a lineman to be more than 1 yd downfield on a pass play...and blocking for a run lineman sometimes push forward to maul or in redirect zone blocking they may go past 1 yd..but also if line is blocking as if its a run they are not pass blocking and it makes it easier for defensive players to get through to the QB...

 

[GORICO]

2 words
Pro Bowl

mr disco--- i appreciate your faith in Dak

 

[GORICO]

If your wanting the slow space eater it aint going to happen and many DC around the league are turning away from the traditional space eater players for strong quick penetrater. Jerry Jones has stated that they'll be looking for safety help.

w-monkey----- will you be frustrated if we see running backs blow past our middle defensive line as we saw several times last year?....i know i was very frustrated...i realize the DC does not like pure 1-tech...but wants a 1-tech with more 3-tech traits...i just hope we get even better than just an adequate 1-tech to step up before season starts

 

[GORICO]

RPO - Run Pass Option
QB hands off to RB or keeps and passes.
OL Run Blocks
WRs (some) run a pass route.
QBs read is often Pre-Snap.

Read Option
QB hands off to RB or keeps and runs himself.
QB reads Post Snap.
OL Run blocks.

Play Action
Play is a pass. No option.
QB, RB and OL initially show run.
OL pass blocks after faking Run blocking.


The RPO does not necessarily require a running type QB; whereas, the Read Option is based on the QB out running somebody (usually a DE). There is some increased risk to the QB because the OL is run blocking but nothing like the risk with the Read Option.

mr xwalker --- thanks for the remedial teaching...but in RPO...only the QB knows if he is doing something different than handing it off to RB...O line blocks as though its a run play..( O-line is not pass blocking at any point )..i copied and pasted one blurb about NFL RPO's you might enjoy.

The biggest concern with RPOs is the quarterback getting hit,” Oklahoma State OC Mike Yurcich says. “After all, part of the deal here is that they are blocking as if it’s a run play; they are not protecting the passer. [ESPN’s] Jon Gruden calls it ‘Ridiculous Pass-protection Offense,’ and I understand what he’s saying. We’ve got to get to where it’s sound, so we feel the quarterback can make a read, and if he’s correct in what he sees, then he shouldn’t take a hit.”

 

[GORICO]

I would not sign Prescott to a long term deal at all no matter what happens. do what the Commanders did with cousins. wait and see.

lwehlers--- what is your opinion how Washington leg Cousins go and signed the QB from Chiefs?...do you think he will be a better QB?

 

[GORICO]

Kiper sure liked White.

dave--- i have watched about 1/2 hour worth of White Highlights...he has a strong arm and great touch ...i am rooting for him

 

[HungryLion]

dakpresgoat--- i read up a little more on RPO's...and yes QB must throw quickly because in an RPO the O line is blocking as if a run play and it is a penalty in NFL for a lineman to be more than 1 yd downfield on a pass play...and blocking for a run lineman sometimes push forward to maul or in redirect zone blocking they may go past 1 yd..but also if line is blocking as if its a run they are not pass blocking and it makes it easier for defensive players to get through to the QB...

Correct. But the QB also doesn’t have any progressions to go through. They are supposed to make the read and then immediately either hand off to the runningback or throw the ball.

During an RPO the QB gets the ball out very fast, unless they are doing something wrong.

So I don’t think they pose any more threat of injury than other passing plays.

 

[GORICO]

Dak will be fine or as fine as the O-line allows him to be. I had expectations for Romo early in his career, I've learned not to expect anything, only their best. Some don't even give that on a consistent basis. Prediction for what it's worth? Somewhere between what we saw in 2016 and the first 8 games on 2017 assuming the O-line performs and Zeke stays on the field.

n.c. nation---- man i sure hope so...been hearing a lot of chatter that defenses will not be scared of any of the receivers so they will just routinely load the box and force Dak to beat them with his arm....i hope Sanjay coach can develop receiver schemes that get our guys open consistently and their good route running will get them open consistently and Dak improves field vision and improves getting ball out of his hands faster...i watched a breakdown of all of Dak's 32 sacks and several were do to him hanging on to the ball too long...we got to do things to put defenses on their heels..so by mid-way through season opponents shake in their cleats...OH NO its Dak and company

 

[GORICO]

Mike White does look the part for sure for sure !!!
Mr. Rush you are not alone ......

Pappy--- ya man..i watched several highlights of White and he has strong arm great touch and good accuracy...and he is like 6'4" or 6'5" with decent scrambling ability

 

[GORICO]

I feel good about Dak going out and producing at a high level this season. I think he will learn from mistakes, I believe he has the physical ability but in my view the biggest asset of any QB is the 6 inches between their ears.

i agree....a QB with smarts and instincts can overcome lesser qualities

 

[GORICO]

Correct. But the QB also doesn’t have any progressions to go through. They are supposed to make the read and then immediately either hand off to the runningback or throw the ball.

During an RPO the QB gets the ball out very fast, unless they are doing something wrong.

So I don’t think they pose any more threat of injury than other passing plays.

mr dak---- i copied and pasted this blurb as i was looking through RPO's---

The biggest concern with RPOs is the quarterback getting hit,” Oklahoma State OC Mike Yurcich says. “After all, part of the deal here is that they are blocking as if it’s a run play; they are not protecting the passer. [ESPN’s] Jon Gruden calls it ‘Ridiculous Pass-protection Offense,’ and I understand what he’s saying. We’ve got to get to where it’s sound, so we feel the quarterback can make a read, and if he’s correct in what he sees, then he shouldn’t take a hit.”

i am just worried sometimes about Dak might get clobbered by some defender and get hurt...i held my breath when Dak scrambled and barreled into defenders at goal line and flipped over them in Arizona game...so happy he jumped straight up un-hurt

 

[DFWJC]

That was a read option play, not an RPO.

An RPO calls for the QB to throw the ball immediately after the playfake. The only way it opens them up to being hit, is if the defender gets immediate pressure after the snap. Which would be a risk on any passing play.

Throw or run after the play fake (or handoff)
Run Pass Option does see the QB running more at times
The “run/Pass” refers to the QB, otherwise itd just be a standard play-action