Twitter: Cowboys Tweets 5/23

[Idgit]

It was predictable in 2014 & 2016 too.

Sometimes we just have better talent then other teams.

When you have an Oline that can just steam roll teams you can get away with basic football.

Incredible Oline play and a Wizard at QB that could extend plays are the only reason this offense has had any success.

We can't rely on just out rostering teams.


Also, it's just regular season success. We need more then a good regular season every now and again.

Dallas has nothing to show for all of those points scored.

Teams that win consistently almost alway outroster the competition. And there’s no reason why we shouldn’t expect the organization to make finding and developing talent the cornerstone of what we do well. That’s actually something we’ve done more successfully than most here in recent years.

Out postseason offense has been pretty successful, too. We’ve got little to show for all the points scored because of all the points given up. Especially in the postseason.

 

[CATCH17]

Teams that win consistently almost alway outroster the competition. And there’s no reason why we shouldn’t expect the organization to make finding and developing talent the cornerstone of what we do well. That’s actually something we’ve done more successfully than most here in recent years.

Out postseason offense has been pretty successful, too. We’ve got little to show for all the points scored because of all the points given up. Especially in the postseason.

I disagree.

Coaching and QB matter more then the overall roster.

If you have great coaching and QB play the pieces around those 2 things don't seem to matter as much in the salary cap era because all teams are so similar.

Neglecting schematics puts the Cowboys at a disadvantage and puts to much stress on the talent.

Playing into our tendencies is a reason why you see the teeter totter from 2014 to 2016.

The mentality you have is the same the coaches have. The problem is other teams are figuring out how to stop what we do and arrogantly not changing has cost us consistent success.

Now after the season is over they supposedly want to change the pass game instead of getting out in front of it.

 

[Kevinicus]

The only way he doesn't prove a ton of people wrong is if he is extremely inconsistent with both flashes of brilliance, and bouts of dreadful play.

I think he will be proving a ton of people like Connor wrong, unfortunately.

 

[Stash]

Teams that win consistently almost alway outroster the competition. And there’s no reason why we shouldn’t expect the organization to make finding and developing talent the cornerstone of what we do well. That’s actually something we’ve done more successfully than most here in recent years.

And yet the "win consistently" that you mentioned still doesn't happen. A contradiction.

I agree that we've found talent, but the frustrating part is that the corresponding wins that should be occurring don't happen on a consistant basis.

Out postseason offense has been pretty successful, too. We’ve got little to show for all the points scored because of all the points given up. Especially in the postseason.

As for the postseason? There's far too small of a sample size for starters, but what there is isn't overly impressive:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/playoffs.htm

Scoring 24 and 21 points isn't particularly impressive, especially considering the player talent the team had.

 

[CATCH17]

And yet the "win consistently" that you mentioned still doesn't happen. A contradiction.

I agree that we've found talent, but the frustrating part is that the corresponding wins that should be occurring don't happen on a consistant basis.



As for the postseason? There's far too small of a sample size for starters, but what there is isn't overly impressive:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/playoffs.htm

Scoring 24 and 21 points isn't particularly impressive, especially considering the player talent the team had.

When I was watching all or nothing I couldn't get over how Linehan just had no idea how they would replace Zeke.

You replace him the same way other teams do when their tailback goes down.

It's such an easy position to get production from. The talent in the backfield almost doesn't seem to matter.

We had a former pro bowl guy in our backfield too.

The players on the team were supposedly frustrated at the coaches for not riding Morris the same way they did Zeke.

 

[TheCount]

I've seen too much film of Dak "going through his progressions" to think it's a strength. He will often be looking at a WR who is open and he should throw the ball, but he will hold onto it and go to his next progression. Then he will throw it to this person, who is less open and less likely to gain more yards. Or it will be a dump off. Or he will now be late getting the ball out (which sometimes he holds it too long just staring at the guy he ends up throwing to, resulting in the same), causing the pass to be defended. And sometimes he just holds it too long and he is sacked/fumbles.

He just doesn't see the field all that well, and can be a bit timid on cutting it loose. There's of course his mechanics, weak arm, and accuracy as well, but that's a different subject from his progressions.

Did you also think that during the first half of last year when he had 16 TD's passing, 4 TD's rushing with 4 Ints?

 

[Stash]

When I was watching all or nothing I couldn't get over how Linehan just had no idea how they would replace Zeke.

You replace him the same way other teams do when their tailback goes down.

It's such an easy position to get production from. The talent in the backfield almost doesn't seem to matter.

We had a former pro bowl guy in our backfield too.

The players on the team were supposedly frustrated at the coaches for not riding Morris the same way they did Zeke.

I could certainly see that.

I see too many "single points of failure" on this team. Points that don't happen with other teams.

The Vikings can lose their quarterback and star running back and yet still make it to the NFC Championship.

The Eagles can suffer through all of their losses and still win it all.

If this team loses Sean Lee, it's an excuse for losing to Green Bay and the Rams - one guy.

If they lose Tyron Smith, the whole offense collapses - one guy.

And then people want to pass off 2017's failed season because Elliott was suspended?

Nowhere do these excuses happen but in Dallas. Other teams overcome. Because their coaches make it happen.

We are player reliant.

 

[Stash]

Did you also think that during the first half of last year when he had 16 TD's passing, 4 TD's rushing with 4 Ints?

Hey @TheCount, I had a question.

Was it you who helped me way back when with a Wade Phillips Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man photoshop job?

 

[TheCount]

Hey @TheCount, I had a question.

Was it you who helped me way back when with a Wade Phillips Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man photoshop job?

Yup!

That feels like such a long time ago, wow.

 

[Kevinicus]

Did you also think that during the first half of last year when he had 16 TD's passing, 4 TD's rushing with 4 Ints?

Absolutely.

I thought this in 2016 as well.

 

[Stash]

Yup!

That feels like such a long time ago, wow.

It does, but I'll be forever grateful, thanks again.


You wouldn't happen to still have a copy of that masterpiece around, would you?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

 

[Mr Cowboy]

 

[TheCount]

It does, but I'll be forever grateful, thanks again.


You wouldn't happen to still have a copy of that masterpiece around, would you?

Happy to do it.

I can check but it's unlikely. I've switched computers a few times since and it probably got lost along the way.

 

[Stash]

Happy to do it.

I can check but it's unlikely. I've switched computers a few times since and it probably got lost along the way.

Ah well.

It was some fine work all the same, thanks.

 

[Fletch]

The only way he doesn't prove a ton of people wrong is if he is extremely inconsistent with both flashes of brilliance, and bouts of dreadful play.

I think he will be proving a ton of people like Connor wrong, unfortunately.

Nah. He’ll be fine and the crow will be served.

And that whole notion that he goes through his progression, sees an open receiver then moves away from the open receiver is way off. I’ve watched every snap of Dak’s career. That happened only a handful of times compared to your notion that it happened numerous times.

 

[MrPhil]

I am too a Dez fan, and he had lost something, but I still say he has taken too much blame for the entire TEAM failures. But time to move on.
I am ready to see what the new WR's and TE's can bring, how everything develops.

Agree with all, especially the bolded section, although I would caveat it by clarifying that the coaches and front office are part of "TEAM" in my opinion. That said, Dez didn't do himself any favors the last several years.

 

[jday]

Actually, at a guess, Martin is skipping OTA's at the recommendation of his agent who knows if he get's hurt, his bargaining position during talks will plummet, particularly if it is a a season-long injury. Nothing to see here....yet.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

I've seen too much film of Dak "going through his progressions" to think it's a strength. He will often be looking at a WR who is open and he should throw the ball, but he will hold onto it and go to his next progression. Then he will throw it to this person, who is less open and less likely to gain more yards. Or it will be a dump off. Or he will now be late getting the ball out (which sometimes he holds it too long just staring at the guy he ends up throwing to, resulting in the same), causing the pass to be defended. And sometimes he just holds it too long and he is sacked/fumbles.

He just doesn't see the field all that well, and can be a bit timid on cutting it loose. There's of course his mechanics, weak arm, and accuracy as well, but that's a different subject from his progressions.

Yeah, damn that 2 year starter who was a 4th round pick for not being a complete player right away. He's so horrible he's broken records for his play and won rookie of the year

 

[jazzcat22]

Actually, at a guess, Martin is skipping OTA's at the recommendation of his agent who knows if he get's hurt, his bargaining position during talks will plummet, particularly if it is a a season-long injury. Nothing to see here....yet.

Exactly.
Many players do this, as well as those seeking to be traded or a contract extension, such as the case of Earl Thomas.
Also Beckham in NY. I guess he has been a no show at their OTA's.