Mort: "Carson Wentz is shockingly ahead of schedule"

[RJ_MacReady]

Alright, time for some serious talk. Because of this development, we'd accept... Connor Williams, Cooper Rush, and next year's 3 for Nick Foles. Think about it. Where will Dak take you that Nick hasn't already been? You want your WR corps to look like an NFL caliber chain gang and not Dak's next excuse? Give Nick Foles a dominant O-line and a reliable run game and watch the magic unfold.

Might want to wait on trading Foles for another season. Wentz could be another Bradford in terms of durability.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Might want to wait on trading Foles for another season. Wentz could be another Bradford in terms of durability.

We would just convince the jets to give up 2 1’s for him and start again. If there’s one thing Philly is famous for, its convincing worse teams that our qbs are super valuable.

 

[Xelda]

You don't give Philly enough credit. They are more famous for "other" things.

 

[Szczepanik]

******. I gotta go back and find that guy who was hammering me for saying I thought Wentz would be back for week 1. I can't remember which of all y'all it was who doubted me, just because some *doctors* said otherwise. But I was right. Again.

How do I keep doing it? Is it freaking anybody else out?

Throwing at OTA's has no bearing on the knee joint at this point in recovery.

Getting tackled, taking hits and acceleration/deceleration and twisting of that knee in live action is a completely different story.

If he starts week 1, he is risking a high-rate of re-injury.

 

[Idgit]

Throwing at OTA's has no bearing on the knee joint at this point in recovery.

Getting tackled, taking hits and acceleration/deceleration and twisting of that knee in live action is a completely different story.

If he starts week 1, he is risking a high-rate of re-injury.

It’s early June. 4 more months before the games start.

I’ve had this injury twice, so I have a pretty good sense of what the recovery arc is like. If he’s participating in 7 on 7s in OTAs in May, he’s going to be playing games in September unless he has a setback.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

It’s early June. 4 more months before the games start.

3 months, actually <<pushes up eye glasses while working a TI-92 calculator>>. Even less if he plays in the preseason <<face snickering while readjusting pen-protector>>.

 

[Szczepanik]

It’s early June. 4 more months before the games start.

I’ve had this injury twice, so I have a pretty good sense of what the recovery arc is like. If he’s participating in 7 on 7s in OTAs in May, he’s going to be playing games in September unless he has a setback.

Having treated numerous ACL's, I also have a pretty good sense of the recovery arc. I also know the likelihood of reinjury rates and subsequent re-ruptures, especially in contact sports.

He can easily start week 1 as far as throwing, he is risking a high chance at re-injury outside of OTA's.

Also as far as your injury goes, ACL injuries increase your rate of re-injury to the same knee and ACL damage to the opposite knee if you don't allow proper time to rehab or change your body mechanics if it is a non-contact injury. Not surprising you've had 2. More common than you'd think.

 

[Idgit]

Having treated numerous ACL's, I also have a pretty good sense of the recovery arc. I also know the likelihood of reinjury rates and subsequent re-ruptures, especially in contact sports.

He can easily start week 1 as far as throwing, he is risking a high chance at re-injury outside of OTA's.

Also as far as your injury goes, ACL injuries increase your rate of re-injury to the same knee and ACL damage to the opposite knee if you don't allow proper time to rehab or change your body mechanics if it is a non-contact injury. Not surprising you've had 2. More common than you'd think.

My first repair was actually via a method that was almost immediately improved upon. I reinjured it because it wasn’t repaired using the more effective method, but it was many years later and after a thoughrough rehab and about four years of amateur kickboxing. So I’d put it through a lot of wear and tear.

I know this is an area of specialization for you, so I don’t want to disrespect you by disagreeing about it. I’m dubious they’d let him play at all with a substantially elevated risk of reinjury. We’ll just have to wait and see how it goes for him.

 

[eternaljester81]

Is his forehead getting bigger?

 

[Supercowboy1986]

My assumption is CW will be ready to go week 1 until proven otherwise.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I was told he was going to at least miss half of next year.

 

[Fwed]

Having treated numerous ACL's, I also have a pretty good sense of the recovery arc. I also know the likelihood of reinjury rates and subsequent re-ruptures, especially in contact sports.

He can easily start week 1 as far as throwing, he is risking a high chance at re-injury outside of OTA's.

Also as far as your injury goes, ACL injuries increase your rate of re-injury to the same knee and ACL damage to the opposite knee if you don't allow proper time to rehab or change your body mechanics if it is a non-contact injury. Not surprising you've had 2. More common than you'd think.

So in your opinion when should he come back?

 

[Billyd]

Dont be naive philly fans..Wentz will be protected at all possible steps in the offseason..Thiz injury will effect both his physical ability running, planting and throwing..and his mental strength...Sports medicine has come along way but its different for any player that goes thru this type of injury..

I EXPECT that he will make a good recovery but saying he will be better, when he was taking off running every third down last year, is ignorant..It may to his benefit to not be able to run as much..Half the time he was taking off with very little pressure so i believe he was living on borrowed time for injury..

Use your legs to make plays. Not runs..

 

[Billyd]

That depends if the Cowboys were using a spy to defend him in the past. I don’t recall that they did, nor should they have. He’s not a running QB...he’s a Qb that can run. There’s a difference. He will still have plenty enough mobility to see a lane, move the chains...and slide or get out of bounds.

His rushing yards being the second or third on the team rushing disagree with that assessment! THIS is based upon what his Numberz were at the time he was injured..I believe he wound up 4th, but he ran 66 times last year for 299..

 

[Billyd]

I was told he was going to at least miss half of next year.

Truth is we dont know. PERSONALLY I believe the best course of action is precaution..He is young, so odds are he will recover quicker, but if you dont have to rush it, why chance it...However I would not tell him to take off like either they told him to do, or how the let him last year..And its not because im a Cowboy fan, its because he has a rocket arm..He needs to use it.

 

[waving monkey]

Alright, time for some serious talk. Because of this development, we'd accept... Connor Williams, Cooper Rush, and next year's 3 for Nick Foles. Think about it. Where will Dak take you that Nick hasn't already been? You want your WR corps to look like an NFL caliber chain gang and not Dak's next excuse? Give Nick Foles a dominant O-line and a reliable run game and watch the magic unfold.

 

[mcmvp]

Dont be naive philly fans..Wentz will be protected at all possible steps in the offseason..Thiz injury will effect both his physical ability running, planting and throwing..and his mental strength...Sports medicine has come along way but its different for any player that goes thru this type of injury..

I EXPECT that he will make a good recovery but saying he will be better, when he was taking off running every third down last year, is ignorant..It may to his benefit to not be able to run as much..Half the time he was taking off with very little pressure so i believe he was living on borrowed time for injury..

Use your legs to make plays. Not runs..

I posted a similar reply in the Fan Zone to this ridiculous assumption that Wentz ran every 3rd down. In that post I only included 3 & 4+ yards tp go numbers (by mistake). Here is his total numbers for 3rd downs.

Wentz on 3rd down last year:
Passing: 81/124, 65.3%, 1178 yards, 14 TDs, 3 INTs....passer rating of 123.7 (1st in NFL)
Rushing: 20 rushes for 151 yards, 0 TDs

So he ran 1 out of every 7 3rd downs...and did almost all of 3rd down damage with his arm. The narrative you are trying to put out there is far from accurate. Makes one wonder if you even watched him play that often.

 

[mcmvp]

His rushing yards being the second or third on the team rushing disagree with that assessment! THIS is based upon what his Numberz were at the time he was injured..I believe he wound up 4th, but he ran 66 times last year for 299..

I'm not sure your point is really all that strong here. He played in 13 games for only about 23 rushing yards per game. No one would describe Wentz as a running QB...just a mobile one.

 

[Ranched]

Good. He'll need to be ready for a tougher schedule. Although I don't see him lasting an entire season, again. That leg has a bullseye on it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I say suit up, lets see what happens. You play your best 22 and we'll ours.