About The NFC East

[RustyBourneHorse]

..."Sup Furby"...?...lol...it's me Gamewatcher...just thought to say hello!...."Hello!"...

Sup Game? I thought that might be you with the Martian part of the username lol. Glad you could make it.

 

[mcmvp]

They are not that sexy, The run game was pretty effective with different rushers and Wentz trying tp run every third down..lol

Wentz had 104 pass attempts on 3rd down. He completed 64 of them for a little over 1,000 yards and 10 TDs. He ran just 12 times on 3rd down.

So not exactly an accurate description of what happened.

 

[1nfljunky]

JEFFERY is what he is. Angwlor played better last year, but he is a 2..That is what both him and Jefferies are...ERTZ gets hurt and its chaos..

This is just dumb. Alston Jeffery is better than anyone on your roster and it's not even close. In any other offense he would be a star, In Our offense he is just a part. What he did in the play offs should tell you that. He destroyed the Vikings and had his way with the Pats.
I think this year he will be a monster. He is 6'3" and 216 lbs. and is a great athlete. It took him most of the year to get acclimated to the Eagles offense. But now after seeing the dynamic Jeffery showed in the play offs you can bet that Doug will make sure Alston plays a bigger part early.
And Ertz lead the Eagles in receptions last year because the Eagles wanted to attack the middle of the field. And to that end do you know who our top pick in the drafts closet comp is in the league? Zachary Ertz. So now the guy who the league had issue with has a twin! The Eagles offense this year will be more diverse both passing and running.
Sproles is back. Clement will have a bigger role as will Ajaye. You guys ended up with a whopping 50 yards more than we did last year and we aren't even a running team. That just shows how effective play call exploits situations. In year three in Dougs offense we will better we can attack every level of any defense because we are so diverse. My man, we simply are what you're trying to be, lol.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I think what's going to be fun is to see the Cowboys and Eagles duke it out this season. As I indicated earlier, I think that us and Philly will be the cream of the crop of the division. I think that we'll probably split the series with them in the regular season, and I foresee us playing them in the playoffs.

 

[DandyDon52]

I think the Giants improved their area of weakness. The O-line and added a RB who should take the pressure off of aging Eli. Expect a bounce back from the Giants

The Skins? I don't think Alex Smith is an improvement on Cousins. If he is it's minor. Their problem last year was injuries and they were decimated. Expect a bounce back on being more healthy if nothing else

The Eagles? I don't think they improved in the off season at all. I suppose Michael Bennett could help them depending on his attitude and locker room impact and I expect Barnett to improve. They caught lightning in a bottle last year. I don't see it happening again. Ajayi has been injured a lot in his short career. I see fewer wins for the Eagles in 2018

Since you didn't mention the Cowboys, I will. I think we improved our O-line and that's a key. I think we improved our LB'er group also. Time will tell. I have questions about our WR group like everyone else BUT i really don't see missing Dez or Witten on the field. Witten's leadership and presence yes. We certainly won't miss Dez's leadership. I see an up tick in wins for the Boys in 2018. We will challenge the Eagles for first place in the NFC east. That's me being real, not a homer

Alex S. Usually gets his team to the playoffs,so he is better than cousins.
Also this is first QB that gruden has chosen.
He was stuck with the others.

I think they will be better.
Giant's now have a # I RB now,
And new coach so they should
Be better too.

The eagles don't need to improve lol , they just need to
Not lose many players.
They will still be good, I think
The decisions they make at QB,
Could cause problems though.

Cowboys should be better because they will be different this year , not so predictable,
Not so vanilla.

So the East is hard to predict this year, could be 3 p.o. teams
Come from the east.

Coaching will play a big part
In who does the best,and who wins div.

 

[1nfljunky]

Well, my thinking is that I can't foresee the Eagles crumbling too much from last year, and I think that our team has playoff caliber talent. Who gets the division? Who knows?

I don't know. It'll be hard getting two teams in with how strong the conference is

 

[Bullflop]

We'll get our share of competition from every team in our division. If the Eagles don't maintain their edge, things will be tougher for them, although their roster is full of exceptional talent. They'll be highly competitive, even if they've lost something vs. teams that will play harder against them. Whether that makes any difference or not is yet to be determined. They have shored up their DL and LB with vet FAs. Tough "D," as always. Let's see if Wentz has rebounded from his injury sufficiently to be his old self again.

The Commanders have improved, especially so, adding some help on defense to shore up their run resistance. They'll be OK but that's about it. Alex Smith is a pro QB who doesn't make many mistakes.

NY Giants have added enough talent in the offseason to give us a good tussle. Let's see if their coaching measures up to the task, though. Eli should rebound somewhat with an improved receiving corps to augment his passing, despite his being a bit longer in the tooth.

I'm hopeful the Cowboys get off to a decent start but with all the changes, it might take a while to get it all together, despite us adding some very good young talent. I see a 9-7 season (again) as a distinct possibility, although we should be on the upswing approaching midseason. There'll be plenty of tough competition this year, as usual, however. With another good draft, we should be pretty doggone hard to beat in 2019.

 

[Sydla]

JEFFERY is what he is. Angwlor played better last year, but he is a 2..That is what both him and Jefferies are...ERTZ gets hurt and its chaos..

And what he is............. is a WR better than any WR we currently have on the roster.

 

[Sydla]

Id Take three twos on the Cowboys offense all day long...

Who are the three twos on the Cowboys?

The Eagles top three of Jeffrey, Wallace and Agholor is better than say, Hurns, Beasley, Gallup.

 

[Sydla]

This is just dumb. Alston Jeffery is better than anyone on your roster and it's not even close. In any other offense he would be a star, In Our offense he is just a part. What he did in the play offs should tell you that. He destroyed the Vikings and had his way with the Pats.
I think this year he will be a monster. He is 6'3" and 216 lbs. and is a great athlete. It took him most of the year to get acclimated to the Eagles offense. But now after seeing the dynamic Jeffery showed in the play offs you can bet that Doug will make sure Alston plays a bigger part early.
And Ertz lead the Eagles in receptions last year because the Eagles wanted to attack the middle of the field. And to that end do you know who our top pick in the drafts closet comp is in the league? Zachary Ertz. So now the guy who the league had issue with has a twin! The Eagles offense this year will be more diverse both passing and running.
Sproles is back. Clement will have a bigger role as will Ajaye. You guys ended up with a whopping 50 yards more than we did last year and we aren't even a running team. That just shows how effective play call exploits situations. In year three in Dougs offense we will better we can attack every level of any defense because we are so diverse. My man, we simply are what you're trying to be, lol.

Total exaggeration at this point. A "star" are guys like AJ Green, Julio Jones, Bryant, Fitzgerald in his hey day. Jeffrey isn't in that class anymore.

Also, your analysis of the run game shows a slant, which given your posting history, isn't unexpected. Yes, the Cowboys ran for 50 yards more, only........... but played 6 games without Elliott. Unless you are going to argue that the drop from Elliott to Morris wasn't that big.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I don't know. It'll be hard getting two teams in with how strong the conference is

I'm sure it'll be difficult, but we did manage to get 2 teams in the playoffs in 2016.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Eagles - kept their frontline guys and added Bennett. Seems they are not so high on their top 10 DE though. They lost a lot of periphery, depth, and ST particularly on defense so should struggle if they mount injuries unlike this past year.

Commanders - 34 year old Smith who relies on his mobility is a downgrade from Cousins who made a ton of plays for them. Really seem to have no identity and piecemiel. Could surprise but doubt it.

Giants will suck. They lost their best OL in Richberg as well as Pugh. Martinez will help but Solder has been bad for the Patriots the last couple years allowing more pressure than Flowers who is to replace. Eli will continue to regress.

As it stands now

Eagles
Cowboys
Commanders
Giants

We should compete for the division but picking us over the champs is unrealistic.

 

[1nfljunky]

Not sure of what loses you think we've had. Curry? Barnett was better last year and should be a double digit sack guy this year. Robinson? Sydney Jones was a sure fire lottery pick last year before his injury. He can man the slot or we can bump him out t CB and not lose a thing. Allen? We didn't even have to bring in Nata, we had players on hand that would have filled that void. Burton? We drafted a player who is basically Zachary Ertz lite.
We get back Peters, Hicks and Sproles. Each was playing at the top of their positions when they got hurt. I seriously doubt we take such a step back that we have to worry about anyone other than ourselves. We get back our ST captain as well. Picked up a TE from GB and Mike Wallace who as our number three is better than Hurns if only because we know he'll be available game day. While nothing is cast in stone we are in a very advantageous position. We don't have to chase anybody, they have to catch us. I am good with that....

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Not sure of what loses you think we've had. Curry? Barnett was better last year and should be a double digit sack guy this year. Robinson? Sydney Jones was a sure fire lottery pick last year before his injury. He can man the slot or we can bump him out t CB and not lose a thing. Allen? We didn't even have to bring in Nata, we had players on hand that would have filled that void. Burton? We drafted a player who is basically Zachary Ertz lite.
We get back Peters, Hicks and Sproles. Each was playing at the top of their positions when they got hurt. I seriously doubt we take such a step back that we have to worry about anyone other than ourselves. We get back our ST captain as well. Picked up a TE from GB and Mike Wallace who as our number three is better than Hurns if only because we know he'll be available game day. While nothing is cast in stone we are in a very advantageous position. We don't have to chase anybody, they have to catch us. I am good with that....

To be perfectly honest, I wasn't too thrilled to see your lot get Sydney Jones. He was a player that I was really keen on during his draft time.

 

[Billyd]

Who are the three twos on the Cowboys?

The Eagles top three of Jeffrey, Wallace and Agholor is better than say, Hurns, Beasley, Gallup.

FIRST of All..Beasley has been the best slot in football and has Had solid twos numbers. SO HAS Hurns..Thompson has as well..Will they this year idn...But Awnglor has had one year as a decent two, and he was a number one pick..Ashley more when he is not getting suspended for the herb.. I believe Gallup will get the snaps, we see if he does the deed. I DONT think our TEs Will go nuts but I think they will be much more productive then people will predict.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Here's what I wrote on the Giants website back on May 11th. ( I'm still morphing a bit off some opinions):

I look for the season in the NFC East to be very competitive this year. Of course the Eagles are front runners with little /nothing needed to be added to their roster and the best coach in our division. Not a shoe-in but definitely favored to repeat. Prediction : 11-5 (Could easily be 14-2 though)

NY looks definitely improved. Just the addition of Barkley made them MUCH better but also are going to have a much better OL. Hernandez is nasty. Eli should have at least 3 more years of standard Eli left in the tank. Not sure what NY will look like on D with the scheme change. I've never been a 3-4 fan. But the DB's should be OK. I know a lot of Giant fans are not high on Apple but I've always found him competitive and does a good job. I think NY challenges for a WC and could be a darkhorse to move Philthy out of the division winners spot. Barkley is the big horse and if NY rides him they will be very dangerous. Don't know enough about Shurmur to get a read on his head coaching abilities but Shula should be an asset with Barkley. Prediction: 9-7 (hard to predict with so much change but I still starkly remember the 2016 Giants so could be 10-6 or better)

Washington is hard for me to read. They seem to have worse records than they should with their personnel year after year. If their coaching is up to par I think the 'skins can do OK although I don't see Alex Smith adding pop to their offense. If they can keep Guice's head on straight they should have a productive run game. I watched Guice some as a college player and he has talent. I think the DL will be very strong. I liked Da'Ron Payne for my Cows in the 1st but he never made it there. They also got Tim Settle in the 5th rd. who although he went lower than I thought he would has lots of upside. He's a huge 335 lb clog up the middle D1. I also wanted the Cows to grab him

. I have no feel for the 'skins but they just don't ever get over the hump. Prediction: 8-8 (just a guess, not even a real educated one)

Now down to my Cowboys. Lotta biching and moaning on their boards about a true D1 middle stuffer (I was one). Also no true safety talent. Lots of talk about Earl Thomas and a trade was offered in the draft by the SeaChickens for a 2nd but Conner Williams was on the board at 50 in the 2nd and Dallas went with OL (but offered a 3rd which was declined). Dallas generally has gotten favorable reviews for their draft . I think they did well with Leighton Vander Esch at 19. Definitely unproven but big, rangy, and pretty fast. Should do the things Dallas wants their MLB to do. Dallas' D should be much improved. After totally revamping the defensive backfield last year the younger players were rounding into good form by the end of the season, numbers didn't look good but their early season was bad. DL should be the best I've seen in Dallas in over a decade (still missing that bad*** D1). Offensively I look for Dallas run game to be on par with 2016 which should help Dak. I'm glad Dez is gone along with his team disruptions. Dallas' receiving corps will not have a lot of names or experience but when Dez was out injured this team played better and there is better talent now. Michael Gallup will be a strong talent by 2019. Now Witten being gone will hurt, especially with his blocking. Coaching staff gives the Cowboys no real advantage. Cows will be better than 2017 though. The Zeke suspension was a distraction all year and hurt team focus. Prediction 10-6 -- WC

I just don't get it. "Standard Eli" for three more years is one of the worst QBs in the NFC who is immobile, with a horrible completion percentage with the propensity for crucial turnovers and poor decision making..

As teams like the Bills, Vikings, and Broncos have show us in the past, teams with talent on both sides of the ball simply cannot win without a good to great QB and certainly one that doesn't turn the ball over.

The Giants in my opinion will be the doormats of the Division and the best thing to happen to the NFC East is they didn't draft a QB from this years class, four of which have franchise QB potential.

 

[Techsass]

I'm still scratching my head on that one. There were 4 QBs that got a lot of press, but none of them was everybody's #1. Maybe it was actually a weak QB class. Or maybe Webb is a lot better than we know.

 

[Billyd]

I just don't get it. "Standard Eli" for three more years is one of the worst QBs in the NFC who is immobile, with a horrible completion percentage with the propensity for crucial turnovers and poor decision making..

As teams like the Bills, Vikings, and Broncos have show us in the past, teams with talent on both sides of the ball simply cannot win without a good to great QB and certainly one that doesn't turn the ball over.

The Giants in my opinion will be the doormats of the Division and the best thing to happen to the NFC East is they didn't draft a QB from this years class, four of which have franchise QB potential.

I agree. As crappy as Mara is about manipulating the outcomes and competitive advantage, the fool doesnt manage his own GM, and coaches worth a damn. THEY love Eli in New York, refuse to see the diminishing returns, and have no ability to understand two very good defenses were the reason they won those sbs. THAT and Gilbride who most fans hate...Lol

 

[Billyd]

I'm still scratching my head on that one. There were 4 QBs that got a lot of press, but none of them was everybody's #1. Maybe it was actually a weak QB class. Or maybe Webb is a lot better than we know.

I have no idea who their GM is..Havent paid attention...lol

 

[Billyd]

To be perfectly honest, I wasn't too thrilled to see your lot get Sydney Jones. He was a player that I was really keen on during his draft time.

Sydney wasnt healthy when they drafted him..Not sure how much he played last season..