Demarcus Lawrence wants a 5 year extension

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No one would have argued to pay Lawrence top 10 money before last year. He was a guy with potential. That's all .

Would it surprise me if he got 16 sacks next year? No. Would it surprise me if he only gets 8? No it wouldn't surprise me at all.

no one's talking about his stats after 2016. We saw what he could do when healthy before, he's gotten better every year. 2017 showed us everything when he's not being cheated by offensive lineman holding.
 

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We've been burned from both approaches. Optimistically I agree, but it is probably smarter to wait and see if he can do it again. If he doesnt play to the same elite level or misses time he will not command the same amount of money. Hes hanging his hat on a single year of elite production currently.


Don't agree as long as he gets 8 sacks, he is going to command a lot of money, whether it be here or somewhere else. Production is key and yes one stat is overrated, but that's what most looks to, sacks.
 

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Like singers, you have the ones that can keep producing hits after hits, then you have a group like " The Outfield " who has there one hit which I love by the way, but cant duplicate that hit again and are called one hit wonders.

Chubby Checkers doing the Twist. Let it go Chubby. lol.
 

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I'm not one to automatically lock down a player, especially for as long as 5 years, without several exceptional seasons to back it up. I believe the C-boys are following the best route to take in handling Lawrence's contract situation. It should take more than one good year to merit a lock-down deal, imho.

To be candid, I'd actually be much more comfortable if it weren't quite 5 years. Three or four years would make me feel better, although Lawrence likely wants more. Perhaps four years could be reasonably agreeable to both sides. Whatever it takes -- hopefully, they'll work it out.
 
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Would be a moronic decision to sign him long term after only 1 year of production and a history of back injury

But, watch this FO do it and watch CZ homies applaud that as a great decision
 

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I'm not sure where you came up with that. Cap space is cap space. It can be used anywhere.

Lawrence really hasn't been all world fair his entire contract. But he did play very well in the first half of last season. Other than that he has been nothing special.
Lol. I am doing to you what you did to me. I get you disagree and don’t want to sign DLaw long term. You could have done that without the smart *** comment. You didn’t and you’re getting smart *** comments back in return. I can be respectful when people disagree, but I can also be as disrespectful as others treat me.
 
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Price is only going to go up. Sign the man long term and get it over with.
When was the last time a dlinemen duplicated back to back great seasons for us beside DWare ?

There’s no guarantee the price is only goin go up unless his production goes up.
 

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When was the last time a dlinemen duplicated back to back great seasons for us beside DWare ?

There’s no guarantee the price is only goin go up unless his production goes up.

I hear you. Well we can can pay him $17 million and now hope he gets injured or has a bad season because that is the only way paying him on the franchise tag is the smart move. If he doesn’t then he will demand more money next year and the same risk will apply. He can still get injured or have production fall off the map.

If either (or both) occur then maybe we can get a little discount on a long term deal, but then people just wouldn’t want him long term at all.

I don't think we are a DLaw away from winning the SB this year so a one year rental is moronic. Should have let him walk and hoped Taco can find some game. But he was smart and signed that franchise tag offer immediately.
 

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I hear you. Well we can can pay him $17 million and now hope he gets injured or has a bad season because that is the only way paying him on the franchise tag is the smart move. If he doesn’t then he will demand more money next year and the same risk will apply. He can still get injured or have production fall off the map.

If either (or both) occur then maybe we can get a little discount on a long term deal, but then people just wouldn’t want him long term at all.

I don't think we are a DLaw away from winning the SB this year so a one year rental is moronic. Should have let him walk and hoped Taco can find some game. But he was smart and signed that franchise tag offer immediately.
who wishes an injury for a player, especially one of our own, who's always one of our best at the moment?

We want him to get hurt so we don't have to pay him, yet people here are wanting to pay Dak for his 2016 performance, the logic around here...
 

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Nope, Irving gets the franchise tag next year, not Lawrence. D-Law gets paid. And if it comes down to paying one or the other, D-Law is a much better football player than Quack.
If Irving keeps it up he won't get a contract with any team much less the Cowboys
 

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who wishes an injury for a player, especially one of our own, who's always one of our best at the moment?

We want him to get hurt so we don't have to pay him, yet people here are wanting to pay Dak for his 2016 performance, the logic around here...
I"m not actually hoping he gets hurt. I'm just pointing out him getting injured or his production slipping are the only ways using the franchise tag on him is the smart move. And if either of those things occur, you've just wasted $17 million to have made the smart move. If he duplicates his production then it's only going to cost you more money next year and the same risks are going to be present. I tell you, the inability to comprehend a point around here. LOL
 

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Lol. I am doing to you what you did to me. I get you disagree and don’t want to sign DLaw long term. You could have done that without the smart *** comment. You didn’t and you’re getting smart *** comments back in return. I can be respectful when people disagree, but I can also be as disrespectful as others treat me.

I have never said we should not resign Lawrence. But like every other player, there is an amount which is too much to pay and too much to risk. The team has to use good judgment in deciding how much is too much.
 

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I"m not actually hoping he gets hurt. I'm just pointing out him getting injured or his production slipping are the only ways using the franchise tag on him is the smart move. And if either of those things occur, you've just wasted $17 million to have made the smart move. If he duplicates his production then it's only going to cost you more money next year and the same risks are going to be present. I tell you, the inability to comprehend a point around here. LOL

It's not the only way it's a smart move. But it wouod validate the decision.
 

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It's not the only way it's a smart move. But it wouod validate the decision.
Yeah if we win the SB it is a smart move. Do you think we are a DLaw away from that? One year rental is dumb.
 

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Yeah if we win the SB it is a smart move. Do you think we are a DLaw away from that? One year rental is dumb.

There is no way to know if we will win the super bowl this year or not. We are in the mix, even though we are not currently a favorite.

Lawrence is a good player. He might be more than a good player. It's conceivable he could be an exceptional player. The problem is it's pretty much just a projection at this point because there is not enough of a track record of above average play.

If you have to grade Lawrence currently you have to factor in everything from his prior three years which drags the average down. I would like to keep him. I would not like to break the bank or overpay to keep him.
 

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I"m not actually hoping he gets hurt. I'm just pointing out him getting injured or his production slipping are the only ways using the franchise tag on him is the smart move. And if either of those things occur, you've just wasted $17 million to have made the smart move. If he duplicates his production then it's only going to cost you more money next year and the same risks are going to be present. I tell you, the inability to comprehend a point around here. LOL
the franchise tag is fully guaranteed. if he is injured in the first game we have to pay him the entire 17 mil. imo, the franchise tag is more a move of crisis management rather than a smart move. short term, long term, no matter what you do you're rolling the dice.
 

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Price is only going to go up. Sign the man long term and get it over with.

Just don't do it. I'd prefer *ever*, but certainly not this year.

His performance tanked in the back half of last season. Once teams treated him like an elite DE, he showed he couldn't play like one.

He's got 3 red flags
1) suspension history
2) back injury history
3) severely declining performance in the back half of last year

If he stays healthy and matches last year's performance, then think about it. But not until he's knocked down a couple of those red flags. No way.
 

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the franchise tag is fully guaranteed. if he is injured in the first game we have to pay him the entire 17 mil. imo, the franchise tag is more a move of crisis management rather than a smart move. short term, long term, no matter what you do you're rolling the dice.

It was a temporizing move. Which isn't so bad considering our lack of proven depth, but the availability of a lot of potential. Next year we'll know better how much of that potential is actual, and how much of Lawrence's performance is repeatable.
 
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