Why didn't the Cowboys trade up for Josh Rosen?

[Irvin88_4life]

I agree with you there, and I hope we can go as far as possible. My guess for how this season goes (though, with sports being as unpredictable as it is, who knows?), I reckon that we'll go 11-5 and make it to the NFC Championship game finally. Unfortunately, I think our lack of quality DT will catch up with us then.

I could see all that happening. Can't disagree with you at all. Would finally be good to see us in the NFC championship game after all these years.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I could see all that happening. Can't disagree with you at all. Would finally be good to see us in the NFC championship game after all these years.

Yes, I think we have the team capable to get to the NFCC (depending on what Garrett we get this year). What I'm most concerned about is DT. I think we'll be okay at the secondary spots, but DT is my most concerning position with this team.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Yes, I think we have the team capable to get to the NFCC (depending on what Garrett we get this year). What I'm most concerned about is DT. I think we'll be okay at the secondary spots, but DT is my most concerning position with this team.

I'm hoping the DE and LB spots can cover up some of the weakness at DT. I like the pass rush from the 3 tech, it's the 1 that needs major upgrading

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Additionally, there's always some stupid thing that happens that derails us. Whether it be a rubbish overturn about a "catch" that looked like a catch but ruled incomplete, a penalty called that wasn't called for over 30 years, some other bit of rubbish going on in games, stupid play by some of our players, rubbish suspensions to important players despite lack of evidence against him, and stupid players getting suspended taking resources that we need to get a good start. I have to take that into account when making my prediction.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I'm hoping the DE and LB spots can cover up some of the weakness at DT. I like the pass rush from the 3 tech, it's the 1 that needs major upgrading

Yes, I don't fear our 3T so much as our 1T. That's my biggest area of concern. I think our DE and LB can mask that. For how long? I don't know. Plus, as stated, there's always some rubbish that occurs in our playoff games.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I still don't get it. Dak only has 2 years left on his rookie contract. He is eligible for a new contract after this season. Do the Cowboys really want to ruin their salary cap by overpaying the next Alex Smith. Dak doesn't make his teammates. He doesn't throw guys open. Rosen has an elite IQ, elite processing speed, and can throw guys open. He can make all the throws at an elite level. The Cardinals just gave up their 3rd and 5th round pick to move up from 15 to 10. The Cowboys probably would have given up their 2nd rounder. However, they could have traded Dak to the Cardinals for their 2nd round pick so they still could have selected Connor Williams. Rosen with the Cowboys current o-line plus Zeke would have been dominant. Rosen played with scrubs on UCLA. He never had an elite o-line and run game. Having scrub receivers wouldn't be an issue with Rosen because he can throw them open. Most importable we would have Rosen on cheap 5 year rookie contract so we could build a stacked team around him! The Cowboys have once again proven to be a negligent and complacent franchise.

What if your opinion of Dak is both premature and dead wrong?

How much of this draft would the Cowboy's have had to trade to get Rosen, a rookie that has never played in the NFL?

Is Rosen going to play middle line backer when his offense is on the bench and the defense is on the field?

Is Rosen going to play left guard when he is not throwing passes?

If we're going to ask questions, why not ask questions that make sense?

Why did Dallas pass on Randy Moss? With Irvin and Moss, Dallas could have copped a couple of more rings.

And since Dak performed great his rookie year and not so great his second year, the reason is unclear. You are certain the cardinals would have traded a top 15 pick for a guy drafted in the 4th round. Right?

Here is a link for you. It shows when Madden 19 is coming out. It also has some cool trailers showing changes in the game.

https://www.techradar.com/news/madden-nfl-19-release-date-trailers-and-news

 

[waving monkey]

I still don't get it. Dak only has 2 years left on his rookie contract. He is eligible for a new contract after this season. Do the Cowboys really want to ruin their salary cap by overpaying the next Alex Smith. Dak doesn't make his teammates. He doesn't throw guys open. Rosen has an elite IQ, elite processing speed, and can throw guys open. He can make all the throws at an elite level. The Cardinals just gave up their 3rd and 5th round pick to move up from 15 to 10. The Cowboys probably would have given up their 2nd rounder. However, they could have traded Dak to the Cardinals for their 2nd round pick so they still could have selected Connor Williams. Rosen with the Cowboys current o-line plus Zeke would have been dominant. Rosen played with scrubs on UCLA. He never had an elite o-line and run game. Having scrub receivers wouldn't be an issue with Rosen because he can throw them open. Most importable we would have Rosen on cheap 5 year rookie contract so we could build a stacked team around him! The Cowboys have once again proven to be a negligent and complacent franchise.

Dak is our franchise QB but you dont know that

 

[waving monkey]

What if your opinion of Dak is both premature and dead wrong?

How much of this draft would the Cowboy's have had to trade to get Rosen, a rookie that has never played in the NFL?

Is Rosen going to play middle line backer when his offense is on the bench and the defense is on the field?

Is Rosen going to play left guard when he is not throwing passes?

If we're going to ask questions, why not ask questions that make sense?

Why did Dallas pass on Randy Moss? With Irvin and Moss, Dallas could have copped a couple of more rings.

And since Dak performed great his rookie year and not so great his second year, the reason is unclear. You are certain the cardinals would have traded a top 15 pick for a guy drafted in the 4th round. Right?

Here is a link for you. It shows when Madden 19 is coming out. It also has some cool trailers showing changes in the game.

https://www.techradar.com/news/madden-nfl-19-release-date-trailers-and-news

 

[ShiningStar]

didn we draft Mike White and hes the next best thing? Dallas cant keep up with all these studs guys? its near impossible.

 

[ShiningStar]

how is it our fans are so over a guy who had a fantastic rookie season? did many of you miss that?

 

[Bigdog]

Well since we are saying what we should have done in the draft than I say we should have drafted Tom Brady. We had 5 chances to do so. Also we should have never let the Niners leap frog us and take Jerry Rice.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

how is it our fans are so over a guy who had a fantastic rookie season? did many of you miss that?

And, he has the difficult challenge of learning how to play QB with Garrett as the coach. So, I think the leniency curve for me is a bit higher for him.

 

[ShiningStar]

And, he has the difficult challenge of learning how to play QB with Garrett as the coach. So, I think the leniency curve for me is a bit higher for him.

i think so too. I think hes a different Qb than our organization is used to. True we had some good QBs. but we have had some bad. And i think Dak is better than the rest, but he isnt as versatile as some. Garrett needs to play him at his strengths more. Dak is more capable than over half the league.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

i think so too. I think hes a different Qb than our organization is used to. True we had some good QBs. but we have had some bad. And i think Dak is better than the rest, but he isnt as versatile as some. Garrett needs to play him at his strengths more. Dak is more capable than over half the league.

Well, he a bit different because, unlike some of our other QBs, he can actually run it when he needs to, and he's quite deadly at it. That adds a dimension to our offence that can be deadly if used. Trouble is, the Cowboys as a whole aren't all that familiar with what to do with that sort of QB.

 

[Verdict]

I still don't get it. Dak only has 2 years left on his rookie contract. He is eligible for a new contract after this season. Do the Cowboys really want to ruin their salary cap by overpaying the next Alex Smith. Dak doesn't make his teammates. He doesn't throw guys open. Rosen has an elite IQ, elite processing speed, and can throw guys open. He can make all the throws at an elite level. The Cardinals just gave up their 3rd and 5th round pick to move up from 15 to 10. The Cowboys probably would have given up their 2nd rounder. However, they could have traded Dak to the Cardinals for their 2nd round pick so they still could have selected Connor Williams. Rosen with the Cowboys current o-line plus Zeke would have been dominant. Rosen played with scrubs on UCLA. He never had an elite o-line and run game. Having scrub receivers wouldn't be an issue with Rosen because he can throw them open. Most importable we would have Rosen on cheap 5 year rookie contract so we could build a stacked team around him! The Cowboys have once again proven to be a negligent and complacent franchise.

My guess is that they didn't want to!!

 

[Tabascocat]

If Dallas was going to trade up for a QB, it should have been for Goff. Instead, we got Zeke and a nice consolation prize in Dak who may very well turn out to be the guy for many seasons. I am satisfied with that outcome.

But, trade up for Rosen when we have a potential franchise QB already? That would have been idiotic

 

[Knotamus]

Yes, I don't fear our 3T so much as our 1T. That's my biggest area of concern. I think our DE and LB can mask that. For how long? I don't know. Plus, as stated, there's always some rubbish that occurs in our playoff games.

Guess I’m not concerned ab DT as some are. I mean, do we have an Aaron Donald? No, but neither do 31 other teams.. (he’ll for that matter, the Rams have Suh and Donald! What?!) Marinelli scheme dosent put an emphasis at the 1T. It’s the 3t that matters. Collins played well his rookie season and was hurt much of last year. Although the move to 1T seems to have hurts his game, he’s still a good talent. Irving could be a legit All Pro 3t if he could consistently stay on the field. Ward thrives under Marenilli and could be Irving 2.0 (trust me). Price is overlooked, but eats up blocks allowing the Rushmen to do work (this is exactly how Marenilli schemes his 1T). Datone Jones might just surprise some folks and played well late last season. And Antwaun Woods could be another Price. So how many are we keeping? 3, maybe 4 since DEs tend to slide into DT during obvious passing downs. We’ll be fine as long as the plethora of DEs that we have do their jobs.

My main concern is FS. I can’t stress enough how much it would help this team if we had a proven ProBowl, Super Bowl winning veteran to act as a security blanket for our young thoroughbred CBs. Personally that would be the icing on the cake for me.

This is a passing league. Besides, if our offense is chugging along like they can.. teams will be passing even more to play catch-up. A dominant 1T dosent get me as excited as a safety that makes the opposing QB scared to throw deep. Phone home.

 

[ShiningStar]

Well, he a bit different because, unlike some of our other QBs, he can actually run it when he needs to, and he's quite deadly at it. That adds a dimension to our offence that can be deadly if used. Trouble is, the Cowboys as a whole aren't all that familiar with what to do with that sort of QB.

we said the same thing. we re BOTH right. lol.

 

[Bigdog]

If Dallas was going to trade up for a QB, it should have been for Goff. Instead, we got Zeke and a nice consolation prize in Dak who may very well turn out to be the guy for many seasons. I am satisfied with that outcome.

But, trade up for Rosen when we have a potential franchise QB already? That would have been idiotic

Some people here would disagree with you on Goff. Some experts on this board said it should have been Carson the Almighty of all Qbs that have ever Played Wentz. The experts said we would regret it.

 

[AbeBeta]

Dallas drafted Mike White for the very reasons the OP is concerned ab. Mike White was thought to be a 2-3rd talent, has nice size to go along with an above average arm.. dude can spin the rock. He’s still needs polishing, but he’ll impress during preseason much like Cooper did last year. The good news here.. Dak is still the man in Dallas. White and Cooper have the time to polish thier games and maybe push Dak if he dosent live up to expectations. Personally, I’m still a fan of the 2016 Rookie of the year.. the fact that we have two young and talented guys behind our young and talented Starter says a lot ab our depth.

No. We drafted Mike White because good teams grab developmental QBs every few years and hope to flip them later for picks. Packers and Pats have done that for years. This is a model many team aspire to