CPanther95
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guess that 'real world' is a one season view.
That ranking is laughable whether you are looking at 1 year or 10 years.
guess that 'real world' is a one season view.
metrics are emotional.That ranking is laughable whether you are looking at 1 year or 10 years.
Apparently "advanced metrics" don't translate well at all to the field in the real world.
For me what is most important is two things. How a QB performs on 3rd down and in the red zone for me is what separates the two QBs. All the silly talk about completion percentages is empty. In the NFL what happens between the 20’s is worthless. What happens in the red zone is the real deal.
Just like in the NBA with the three point line, 3rd down is the money down. A teams ability to convert 3rd downs is key to winning games. Keeping the ball is life in the NFL. To that point Wentz was tops in the league in third down passes (with over 100 passes). Dak was 16th. Wentz at 49.2% compared to 38.9% for Dak.
In the red zone the difference is even wider. Wentz was second to Brady (mostly because of his injury). Inside the 20 (the red zone) Wentz completion % was 64% and he threw 24 tds and 0 ints. Looking at Dak his percentage was 47.8% and he threw 15 tds and 2 ints. So looking at those two very important things shows a huge gap in the two QBs.
Talk all you’d like about percentage this and percentage that, if your not keeping the ball and/or scoring, it means nothing. Question, how many of you are confident that if you lost Zeke you could win games? If you had to ride Daks arm how many of you see the play offs as a real possibility? I don’t.
The Eagles score 34 or more point sin 3 of the 5 games Foles played. 1 of those was the take a knee game they played versus Dallas.You’re right that 3rd down and red zone are important.
I’ll say this. The eagles converted an inordinately huh amount of 3rd and longs last season. So high, I am curious to see if they can replicate the same success this year. Wentz’ scrambling ability helped in that regard. We will see how the ACL injury does or does not affect that.
I also don’t think it’s fair to discuss Dak’s red zone importance without listing his rushing TD’s. Dak has proven to be a huge running threat within the red zone. He has 8 TD’s last season alone, rushing.
I know it’s not the traditional NFL way of scoring but a TD is a TD.
They are in year three in this offense. They are just learning it. I think they’ll actually be better. They found out what Alshon and Zach can be late in the year. They get back one of the primer 3rd down backs in league history. And they get back a HOF LT. The offense is one of multiplicity. Play design and really talented players give me confidence that we will be ok.You’re right that 3rd down and red zone are important.
I’ll say this. The eagles converted an inordinately huh amount of 3rd and longs last season. So high, I am curious to see if they can replicate the same success this year. Wentz’ scrambling ability helped in that regard. We will see how the ACL injury does or does not affect that.
I also don’t think it’s fair to discuss Dak’s red zone importance without listing his rushing TD’s. Dak has proven to be a huge running threat within the red zone. He has 8 TD’s last season alone, rushing.
I know it’s not the traditional NFL way of scoring but a TD is a TD.
That is correct.They are in year three in this offense. They are just learning it. I think they’ll actually be better. They found out what Alshon and Zach can be late in the year. They get back one of the primer 3rd down backs in league history. And they get back a HOF LT. The offense is one of multiplicity. Play design and really talented players give me confidence that we will be ok.
Well I think people who look at the cap as something that will hurt the Eagles are missing what the team is actually doing. They are accumulating picks. They know they will lose players. By the next draft I expect they will have 6 picks in the first hundred. Look for them to target LT, Safety and RB in those picks. Howie learn the cap game from one of the best to ever do it, Joe Banner. Fans who get their panties in a bunch over the cap really haven’t been paying attention. Smart GMs know how to make it work.The Eagles score 34 or more point sin 3 of the 5 games Foles played. 1 of those was the take a knee game they played versus Dallas.
Eagles fans and especially closet Eagles fans that post here as Cowboys fan overrate Wentz instead of crediting the offense and scheme and OL and varied rushing attack that featured 4 good players.
A hurt Wentz isn't going to derail the Eagles. Less depth everywhere because of salary cap concerns and inflated salaries as SB winners and a basically skipped draft class and the NFL having a year to study that offense and the target of SB champ may.
Cian Fahey also thought that Carson Wentz should be drafted on Day 3 and that Venron Adams was the best QB in that draft.worth noting:
Cian Fahey is generally considered the best QB advanced metrics guy out there.
Think of him as Moneyball for NFL QBs.
Apparently "advanced metrics" don't translate well at all to the field in the real world.
Not sure what position group you see as weaker than last year. They are better at OL, DL, RB, WR, TE and CB. The only place I see any real issues are possibly at LB. and that can be handled at cut downs.That is correct.
Eagles may actually be better if they start the year with Foles and give Wentz time to be 100% as well as have a lot of practice snaps before coming back.
Given they may only have Foles half a year or this season using him and getting value makes sense.
The Eagles concerns will be less overall total depth and the other concerns I raised above.
But they absolutely are among the elite entering 2018.
How is Ben Roethlisberger considered a tier 1 guy when he needs the best receiver, best RB and a top three offensive line to average 20 points a game?
How is Ben Roethlisberger considered a tier 1 guy when he needs the best receiver, best RB and a top three offensive line to average 20 points a game?
The Eagles are sitting 44M OVER the cap for 2019.Well I think people who look at the cap as something that will hurt the Eagles are missing what the team is actually doing. They are accumulating picks. They know they will lose players. By the next draft I expect they will have 6 picks in the first hundred. Look for them to target LT, Safety and RB in those picks. Howie learn the cap game from one of the best to ever do it, Joe Banner. Fans who get their panties in a bunch over the cap really haven’t been paying attention. Smart GMs know how to make it work.