There is nothing about the franchise that’s positive

stiletto

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He is just NOT good enough to put it all together. We have been drafting great, but he has mismanaged the salary cap so poorly for so long that he hasnt been able to sign any decent outside FA's. He is reluctant to trade. Cant build a championship roster with ONLY the draft.

And its hard to put it all together with a coach like Garrett and Wade. They never coach them up, its always down. Any adversity is NOT overcome.

I know I was joking. It would take an amazing coach to overcome Jerry and his son. I am not sure it will ever happen at this point. Just gotta roll with it I guess.
 

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I hear ya what a crybaby *** group of quitters . Makes me sick . Heck the season hasn't even started yet . We could be at close to full strength by the 1st game need to be patient and wait to see how these injuries pan out . No sense getting all worked up till we get more information and get closer to the first game .

LOL......we lose a pro bowl center and its not big deal, but 5 drives in preseason of shutout ball against the worst offense in the NFL and were a top 5 defense right? Too funny.

For me, this was never a SB contending team to begin with so Im not jumping off a ledge.
 

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Rebuild? Doesn't something have to be built first? We've been rebuilding for going on 24 years.

We have been wandering the desert of mediocrity since the 1995 Super Bowl. 3 really good seasons that got us 13, 13 and 12 wins. How many playoff wins from those? 1. Had a good run at the end of 2009 and parlayed that into a wild card win.

As well as 4 terrible seasons in 5-11 three straight years and a 4-12 in 2015. As well as three straight 8-8 seasons to begin the Garrett era.

But don't worry, we are on the right track with our process!!

Meanwhile, teams who finished at the bottom in 2016 like the Jaguars and Eagles won their divisions last season and one got to the championship game and the other won a Super Bowl. There is no process in the NFL. The turnover from year to year is massive from players to coaches. You can be on top one year and fall off the next. And you can be at the bottom one year and very successful the next. This process talk is nothing but loser talk from Garrett and this team. He has shown absolutely nothing that we can win consistently.
 

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This is enough to sustain the greatness of the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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The OL was all we had. And Zeke, who needs the OL. Tyron is a walking timebomb. So is Fredrick now. This iteration of Dallas is toast. Blow it up, suck and rebuild.

There is nothing left. I like Dak, but he’s just a bus driver.
Whoa whoa whoa....it’s been said Zeke could do just as well behind any O line. I’ve heard it here at least 100 times. While I strongly disagree with that, we still have a much better O lone than the majority of every other NFL team. There’s still no reason Zeke can’t run well and for Dak to be jnder constant pressure. You act like every other one of our lineman is some scrub. Look at the Giants O line, I would take anyone on this O line over any of their minus possibly their 2nd round pick. We’ll be ok and that’s about the most positive thing I’ve said about this years team. Our O line won’t be as good but it will still be much better than most.
 

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The positive news is the team didn't give up draft capital to acquire Earl Thomas. Now the news is out about Travis Fredrick's condition we don't need to waste anymore resources to make a run this year because it is unlikely to occur. Stay pat, get through the season, and try to reload next year. Unfortunately, I think this saves Garrett's job for 2019 though.

Of course, now that I don't want to trade for Earl Thomas, wouldn't be surprised if we give up a 1st and 2nd round draft pick real soon.
 

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LOL......we lose a pro bowl center and its not big deal, but 5 drives in preseason of shutout ball against the worst offense in the NFL and were a top 5 defense right? Too funny.

For me, this was never a SB contending team to begin with so Im not jumping off a ledge.

Honestly, I think that is an OK way to approach it... Since when is a Cowboys team "championship level" anyways going into a season, that was like 30 years ago. LOL Anything better than 10-6 this season would be a miracle to me. I just want a good defense.
 

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They won Super Bowl in 93 despite losing Mark Stepnoski. They made it to the 94 NFC Championship despite losing Erik Williams. They win the Super Bowl in 95 despite losing Ray Donaldson.

Point being, offensive line injuries are common for Super Bowl winning teams and not just the Cowboys. The Eagles lost one of their tackles last year.

“But, but, muh Jimmy and muh depth and muh Eagles have a better coach...”

Then the season was over before this.

Ummm are you really comparing the 90s Cowboys, who had a great coaching staff from top to bottom and a really good defense to the clown coaching staff we have? Jimmy and his staff could overcome injuries. This staff runs around with their heads cut off at the slightest obstacle. Name me one time a Garrett led team fought through adversity and came out successful? Never has happened. And no evidence it ever will.

Romo went down in 2015 and we crumbled. Zeke gets suspended and we turn into the worst offense I have ever seen. If everything is not perfect for this staff, they won't win. There is nothing to compare from the championship teams of the 90s to what is going on with the circus we have built now.

Also add in 2013 we lose Romo for the last game of the year and we lose to Philly with a chance to have won the division. We had a lot of injuries in 2012 for that Skins game to end the year and same thing. Lost. In 2014 when Romo got hurt, we lost those games as well. Skins and Cardinals. Which was huge considering we finished in a 3 way tie with Seattle and GB. Win either of those and we get the overall 1 seed.
 

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Ummm are you really comparing the 90s Cowboys, who had a great coaching staff from top to bottom and a really good defense to the clown coaching staff we have? Jimmy and his staff could overcome injuries. This staff runs around with their heads cut off at the slightest obstacle. Name me one time a Garrett led team fought through adversity and came out successful? Never has happened. And no evidence it ever will.

Romo went down in 2015 and we crumbled. Zeke gets suspended and we turn into the worst offense I have ever seen. If everything is not perfect for this staff, they won't win. There is nothing to compare from the championship teams of the 90s to what is going on with the circus we have built now.

Reading comprehension is clearly problematic for you. I addressed these very points in the post to which you’re responding.
 

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As well as 4 terrible seasons in 5-11 three straight years and a 4-12 in 2015. As well as three straight 8-8 seasons to begin the Garrett era.

Doctor I'm confused... Does that make me a true cowboy's fan, having been through those 5-11's or just a masochists?
 

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They won Super Bowl in 93 despite losing Mark Stepnoski. They made it to the 94 NFC Championship despite losing Erik Williams. They win the Super Bowl in 95 despite losing Ray Donaldson.

Point being, offensive line injuries are common for Super Bowl winning teams and not just the Cowboys. The Eagles lost one of their tackles last year.

“But, but, muh Jimmy and muh depth and muh Eagles have a better coach...”

Then the season was over before this.

There's no comparisons between the 90's Cowboys & this team. That team had a HOF RB, WR, QB, All pro TE, All Pro OL, should be hofer in Woodson, & Haley ( HOFer). The list goes on. They were all in their primes. If that team was in the league today, they'd have a great shot at 16-0. They'd wipe the floor with every team. Especially with the new rules that coddle QB's. Coaching is important, but I'm pretty sure even Garrett would win with that group.

2018's team doesn't have a HOF RB ( Not yet at least). Theres no TE. Garbage receivers. There no comparison to be made.
 

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Honestly, I think that is an OK way to approach it... Since when is a Cowboys team "championship level" anyways going into a season, that was like 30 years ago. LOL Anything better than 10-6 this season would be a miracle to me. I just want a good defense.

As long as the defense is maturing and we see some really nice things this will be a positive season. This is where Dak in his third year and the GREAT Zeke need to start earning it. If Zeke is soooo great then he shouldnt need the best line in football.

And who knows, maybe Garrett will get fired. Could be a hell of a season.
 

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There's no comparisons between the 90's Cowboys & this team. That team had a HOF RB, WR, QB, All pro TE, All Pro OL, should be hofer in Woodson, & Haley ( HOFer). The list goes on. They were all in their primes. If that team was in the league today, they'd have a great shot at 16-0. They'd wipe the floor with every team. Especially with the new rules that coddle QB's. Coaching is important, but I'm pretty sure even Garrett would win with that group.

2018's team doesn't have a HOF RB ( Not yet at least). Theres no TE. Garbage receivers. There no comparison to be made.

Once the team was established, any coach would win in todays game with that team. But if Garrett is the coach, that team never gets built and even if it does we might not win one SB. Not going up against the likes of the Niners and Bills in that era.
 

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There's no comparisons between the 90's Cowboys & this team. That team had a HOF RB, WR, QB, All pro TE, All Pro OL, should be hofer in Woodson, & Haley ( HOFer). The list goes on. They were all in their primes. If that team was in the league today, they'd have a great shot at 16-0. They'd wipe the floor with every team. Especially with the new rules that coddle QB's. Coaching is important, but I'm pretty sure even Garrett would win with that group.

2018's team doesn't have a HOF RB ( Not yet at least). Theres no TE. Garbage receivers. There no comparison to be made.

You didn’t get all the way to the end either, did you?
 

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Defense seems to be taking a turn for the better so of course the O takes a hit. Can't play decent ball on both sides with this franchise.
 

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As long as the defense is maturing and we see some really nice things this will be a positive season. This is where Dak in his third year and the GREAT Zeke need to start earning it. If Zeke is soooo great then he shouldnt need the best line in football.

And who knows, maybe Garrett will get fired. Could be a hell of a season.
Even without Frederick, this line should be more than adequate for Zeke to put up very good numbers with.
 
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