The insanity of this FO

[Pessimist_cowboy]

They don’t know what the hell they’re doing. They’re trying to emulate the Pats by being penny pinchers. But , here’s the problem, the Pats have a weak division and much weaker conference. You have the Steelers and Jags as the only two teams to really compete in the AFC.

In the NFC there’s 8-10 teams who are very strong. Penny pinching and dumpster diving will not work for the Cowboys. A real GM would trade for Earl Thomas and try to call up Tampa Bay and ask them if they’d want any of our WR’s or a LB for Cameron Brate the TE. He’s very underrated and they just drafted a TE in the 1st round last year. That immediately makes two glaring weaknesses into strengths.

This front office is content they are the richest franchise in the world. That’s what they care about.

 

[Whyjerry]

Garrett/Linehan are the worst. So predictable. When the play breaks down they don't even have their receivers scramble. They want them to wait there are though for some god given reason they will become open.

The offense is a massive failure. This is the FO doing. Not only Garrett/Linehan are the worst playcallers, they even hired an under-qualified, no experience QB coach. They offer no value whatsoever.

I would like this a million times. Spot on. Shocking that more folks do not see it this way.

 

[OmerV]

I think you can focus on our own. Any free agents we sign from other teams will not be expensive. Those days are gone. For our guys the money will be there. No way we lose any of those you named. Even with signing Thomas.

They knew his cost at draft time and if they thought the price was too high then, they never would've offered the pick to Seattle. They knew the cost and they knew they would want to keep all those guys you named.

If they are completely opposed to the idea of paying a player that comes from outside the organization, why would they pay Thomas? The team also was reported to have pursued Sammy Watkins to a point, knowing he would have been expensive. Obviously the team has become much more conservative signing free agents from other teams, but I think it's premature to say they would never do it.

And while it's true they had to at least have some idea of the cost to extend ET at the time of the draft, it's not only about the contract. That is just one of the two elements, the other being the draft pick they would have to give up. At the time of the draft apparently the Cowboys were willing to deal with the contract if they didn't have to give up more than a 3rd rounder, and all indication are that is still the case today.

 

[OmerV]

Garrett/Linehan are the worst. So predictable. When the play breaks down they don't even have their receivers scramble. They want them to wait there are though for some god given reason they will become open.

The offense is a massive failure. This is the FO doing. Not only Garrett/Linehan are the worst playcallers, they even hired an under-qualified, no experience QB coach. They offer no value whatsoever.

This is knee jerk. The entire starting offense hasn't even played together this preseason, and they haven't played with a game plan yet.

 

[DHCBF66]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

Insanity is giving up picks for a guy that has had trouble staying healthy the past couple seasons. Giving up picks for a guy that has a huge contract and wants to be paid even more with a new contract. The Seahawks won't part ways for a third or it would already be done!

 

[LittleD]

Steal what exactly?

Come on, you know. Jerry had to get rid of Jimmy so he could take complete credit for
3 superbowls. This is well documented even on video if you care to check.

 

[Dre11]

This is knee jerk. The entire starting offense hasn't even played together this preseason, and they haven't played with a game plan yet.

It's even dumb that he thinks they have scramble drill and the wr just stand and watch. ...lol these

 

[LittleD]

Jimmy only has 2 Superbowls but Jerry has 3 haha those are the facts

Jimmy crafted and built those teams. The triplets won that 3rd superbowl in spite of Jerry and his hand picked puppet.

 

[Jake]

A real GM would trade for Earl Thomas and try to call up Tampa Bay and ask them if they’d want any of our WR’s or a LB for Cameron Brate the TE. He’s very underrated and they just drafted a TE in the 1st round last year. That immediately makes two glaring weaknesses into strengths.

Last I checked no GM has traded for Earl Thomas. It's almost as if his contract demands are scaring teams away from trading for him...or there are no "real" GMs in the NFL.

As for Brate, if Tampa is dumb enough to give him away for someone like Williams, Beasley, or Thompson then sign me up.

 

[LittleD]

If they are completely opposed to the idea of paying a player that comes from outside the organization, why would they pay Thomas? The team also was reported to have pursued Sammy Watkins to a point, knowing he would have been expensive. Obviously the team has become much more conservative signing free agents from other teams, but I think it's premature to say they would never do it.

And while it's true they had to at least have some idea of the cost to extend ET at the time of the draft, it's not only about the contract. That is just one of the two elements, the other being the draft pick they would have to give up. At the time of the draft apparently the Cowboys were willing to deal with the contract if they didn't have to give up more than a 3rd rounder, and all indication are that is still the case today.

That was draft time and the same time they may have had interest in ET. That time has long since past and they are content with their draft picks
and current team makeup. They may add a trade piece or cheap player but, no big names with big contract.

 

[cowboy_ron]

The insanity of this FO existed long before any ET talk started.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I would like this a million times. Spot on. Shocking that more folks do not see it this way.

Yes I noticed that - its so obvious. Why are the receivers just standing there when the plays break down? I think thats part of the scheme.

 

[ConstantReboot]

This is knee jerk. The entire starting offense hasn't even played together this preseason, and they haven't played with a game plan yet.

Well have to see. This is the first time they give Linehan full control of the offense. Never been a fan of his and I think his playcalling is just as bad as Garrett's. It was always predictable and simple.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

I get what you're saying but we have exactly 2 examples of this happening....with Russel and Wentz (who did not win the superbowl).

I think conventional wisdom is you win Superbowls with established veteran qbs.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

 

[Dre11]

I would like this a million times. Spot on. Shocking that more folks do not see it this way.

We don't see that way, because it's bs, I've seen wr scramble and make plays off schedule, it was a weekly thing with Romo.

 

[jazzcat22]

LOL some down years!!!
How many playoff games have we won since the last SB?
I expect a team with a QB the quality of Romo to at least be able to make a run at an SB but we only could win two playoff games and not in the same year either.
In the football sense we've been a joke for 20+ years whether you want to admit it or not and the same people still run the circus.
You keen hoping but don't hold your breath.

Whatever, you still do not get it.
Down years, I said until Bill came in. Set the team back on track.
Wade was having a good team, then lost it. And it has been 8 years of process since. To me it is more on the coaching with some bumbling by the FO those years.
But theses last 3 or 4 years, removing the injury plagued season and last year of the Goodell stupidity it has been the coaching more than others stuff.

Yes they should address certain things, missed on others. But many teams do it. It’s part of the business.
Some times teams hit a streak where it goes right as well.

 

[Stash]

Mostly I think we disagree on the risk reward. I don’t think we would be gouged paying that salary for the player he is. I immediately think Roy Williams Joey Galloway and ken Hamlin when I think of massive free agent blunders we’ve made. To start, none of those guys I think could make the impact Thomas can. None of those guys were viewed as possibly the best at their position, they were by us, and they were “splash” signings mostly. And the cost comparatively speaking is prohibitive- a pick (one) and salary.

They most certainly would be getting gouged paying that salary. And here are several reasons why:

1. He's making an average of $10 million a year under his current contract, that's plenty
2. Do you think he will somehow become a better player at age 29 than he was under that last deal?
3. Why should the Cowboys set the high end market for the safety position when the salaries league wide for the position have fallen off a cliff?
4. Do you seriously think sending the Seahawks a premium pick for the obligation to do that is a sound move, capable of the necessary "reward"?

We’ll see when the bullets start flying but the only part of our D that I have a hint of legit excitement about is our pass rush. And that’s contingent on all parties remaining drug free for a season. My point is, I don’t look to preseason as indicative of what we will be, whether we look great or horrible. It’s like the annual “camp star” everyone raves about that ends up never to be heard from again once the season starts.

Of course not, because like the rest of the "Earl at all costs crowd", the facts of what's happening mean you don't have a leg to stand on. If the defense was struggling in the same preseason you now want to disregard, I guarantee you that you would be banging the drum saying "we have to get Earl Thomas!" After all, they're doing great and you're still saying it.

 

[odog422]

If they are completely opposed to the idea of paying a player that comes from outside the organization, why would they pay Thomas? The team also was reported to have pursued Sammy Watkins to a point, knowing he would have been expensive. Obviously the team has become much more conservative signing free agents from other teams, but I think it's premature to say they would never do it.

And while it's true they had to at least have some idea of the cost to extend ET at the time of the draft, it's not only about the contract. That is just one of the two elements, the other being the draft pick they would have to give up. At the time of the draft apparently the Cowboys were willing to deal with the contract if they didn't have to give up more than a 3rd rounder, and all indication are that is still the case today.

You said signing Thomas would prevent them from signing players from other teams or own guys. I explained why it wouldn’t. Why they would sign Thomas is obvious. So even though they still haven’t signed an “expensive” free agent, and your Watkins example backs up my point because they could’ve had him if they spent more, Thomas’ signing wouldn’t short circuit their signing other players.

Ok so you concede I was right about him not being too expensive then, across the board. Cool. I addressed the draft pick question in my initial post, i.e., second round pick versus best at his position in the league arguably. No decision - it’s what may be vs what is.

 

[coult44]

Conventional wisdom in the NFL says the absolute best time to compete and win titles is with a good QB on a rookie contract. We have that. This year and next. This is the time to strike. Yet Jerry and son are content to with the status quo. Content to roll out scrubs at safety instead of spending the $. The money saved on Dez’s contract pays for Earl. Earl makes this defense a top 5 unit. Who cares that we give up a third. A third rounder is what got us Chaz Green. Spend the damn money.

I agree with you completely about us having the money and we should be going to get ET, an OL, and a probably a vet QB2. But I don't really buy the rookie QB thing. Other than Wilson and the Seahawks, who has really had luck with this strategy?

 

[Cowboys22]

Earl Thomas is going to be top 3 in the entire league going forward, during that big extension he wants?

Funny how 30 other teams not named the Cowboys haven't jumped at that deal, either.

No one can know that for sure but I’m pretty confident that he will be better than every safety Dallas currently has on their roster combined for the next three years. For that I’m willing to take the chance with a 2nd round pic

Doesn't matter, Jerry made the hire and won 3 Superbowls. That's facts and it will never change

Sure it matters because he has never duplicated that decision. Of course he gets credit but he also turned around and destroyed the good thing and has been nothing but awful since. Those are also facts that will never change.