The Eagles Process vs The Cowboys Process

[KingintheNorth]

Interesting read... love an aggressive, smart front office. Hate that it's the Eagles.

The Cowboys FO is way too passive IMO. We either are too optimistic about our own players (SEE Tight End and Safety) or poor at self-evaluation. Smart teams use all avenues of talent acquisition. Building through the draft should be the basis of your strategy, but not your only strategy.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...rson-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-carson-wentz


Flame on!

 

[AmericanCowboy]

Interesting read... love an aggressive, smart front office. Hate that it's the Eagles.

The Cowboys FO is way too passive IMO. We either are too optimistic about our own players (SEE Tight End and Safety) or poor at self-evaluation. Smart teams use all avenues of talent acquisition. Building through the draft should be the basis of your strategy, but not your only strategy.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...rson-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-carson-wentz


Flame on!

Coaching plays a big part. Pederson coaches to win- Garrett coaches not to lose.

Pederson knows how to manage a clock. Garrett doesn’t.

With the eagles coaches last year we go 11-5.

That being said, I firmly believe Garrett doesn’t want to go into Win-Now mode because it hurts his job security. Therefore we are in a perpetual rebuilding.

 

[NorthTexan95]

Where were all of these great orations about the Eagles last year? They were saying Pederson was a substandard coach and Wentz looked like he had a long ways to go. The Eagles are the flavor of the month and not nearly as good as some people think. At this time last year the Cowboys FO was getting praise for having a top running back and quarterback on rookie deals and rebuilding the secondary in one draft. If Dallas wins the division this year while Philly finishes at .500 then next summer the articles will be all about the great future of the Cowboys and the questionable decisions of the Eagles.

It's all about the flavor of the month.

 

[dwreck27]

I just dont think we get aggressive when we have special group...

We are still trying to build a dynasty that will last decades! Instead of winning a Super bowl in the next year or two....like say 2014 when we had a great formula just needed a defensive piece or two and keep it going

If i could tell you hey would you like to win a super bowl every 6 to 8 years? or have a really good run with say two in a row then bottom out with mediocrity for 20 years? Which would you take

 

[NorthTexan95]

Coaching plays a big part. Pederson coaches to win- Garrett coaches not to lose.

Pederson knows how to manage a clock. Garrett doesn’t.

With the eagles coaches last year we go 11-5.

That being said, I firmly believe Garrett doesn’t want to go into Win-Now mode because it hurts his job security. Therefore we are in a perpetual rebuilding.

Yet two years ago it's Garrett going for it on 4th and one in OT against Philly. It's Garrett's team running a fake punt from inside their own 30 at Oakland last year. Pederson is more aggressive than Garrett ... Garrett does have clock management issues ... but Pederson is the same dufus who by all accounts screwed up their 2017 season.

 

[Future]

Meh. They have a great coaching staff or we aren't talking about them.

They're talent, on paper, is greatly overstated.

 

[CATCH17]

I just dont think we get aggressive when we have special group...

We are still trying to build a dynasty that will last decades! Instead of winning a Super bowl in the next year or two....like say 2014 when we had a great formula just needed a defensive piece or two and keep it going

If i could tell you hey would you like to win a super bowl every 6 to 8 years? or have a really good with say two in a row then bottom out with mediocrity for 20 years? Which would you take

Yep..

You have a championship base but you never fill in all of the holes through Free Agency like it was intended to be used for.

Oh well.. We'll continue to be Next Years team.

 

[CATCH17]

Meh. They have a great coaching staff or we aren't talking about them.

They're talent, on paper, is greatly overstated.

Agree.

Dallas is on par with them talent wise.

Even if Philly is better it's not by much.

All of these rosters are just about the same but coaching and QB play are so critical.

 

[tm1119]

Where were all of these great orations about the Eagles last year? They were saying Pederson was a substandard coach and Wentz looked like he had a long ways to go. The Eagles are the flavor of the month and not nearly as good as some people think. At this time last year the Cowboys FO was getting praise for having a top running back and quarterback on rookie deals and rebuilding the secondary in one draft. If Dallas wins the division this year while Philly finishes at .500 then next summer the articles will be all about the great future of the Cowboys and the questionable decisions of the Eagles.

It's all about the flavor of the month.

Who the heck was praising the cowboys front office last off season? They sat on their hands and did nothing and the team got worse. The eagles were aggressive and improved their team tremendously...even mid season when they were in 1st place. The results speak for themselves

 

[KingintheNorth]

Where were all of these great orations about the Eagles last year? They were saying Pederson was a substandard coach and Wentz looked like he had a long ways to go. The Eagles are the flavor of the month and not nearly as good as some people think. At this time last year the Cowboys FO was getting praise for having a top running back and quarterback on rookie deals and rebuilding the secondary in one draft. If Dallas wins the division this year while Philly finishes at .500 then next summer the articles will be all about the great future of the Cowboys and the questionable decisions of the Eagles.

It's all about the flavor of the month.

There's some truth to that, and the article mentions the copycat nature of NFL teams, BUT at the end of the day, Pederson won a Super Bowl in his second year while Garrett hasn't advanced past the 2nd round in 7 years.

As far as roster building, they have built their roster with aggressive trades, free agent signings, both premiere free agent deals and shorter veteran signings, and quality drafting; whereas we have really focused on drafting, which I admit has greatly improved. My criticism is that just building through the draft is a slow and flawed strategy. By the time one area is fixed, another area has become a weakness because the players you drafted 4 years ago can move on in free agency.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Coaching plays a big part. Pederson coaches to win- Garrett coaches not to lose.

Pederson knows how to manage a clock. Garrett doesn’t.

With the eagles coaches last year we go 11-5.

That being said, I firmly believe Garrett doesn’t want to go into Win-Now mode because it hurts his job security. Therefore we are in a perpetual rebuilding.

so garrett's goal is to lose every game...then he sucked at it when we went 13-3....he really screwed up!!!!

btw, I can name you a 50 coaches from the past 8 years that have made clock management mistakes, several times over each including ones with superbowl rings....

 

[Dre11]

Coaching plays a big part. Pederson coaches to win- Garrett coaches not to lose.

Pederson knows how to manage a clock. Garrett doesn’t.

With the eagles coaches last year we go 11-5.

That being said, I firmly believe Garrett doesn’t want to go into Win-Now mode because it hurts his job security. Therefore we are in a perpetual rebuilding.

Let's see how good he is without, Frank Riech and Defilippo.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Where were all of these great orations about the Eagles last year? They were saying Pederson was a substandard coach and Wentz looked like he had a long ways to go. The Eagles are the flavor of the month and not nearly as good as some people think. At this time last year the Cowboys FO was getting praise for having a top running back and quarterback on rookie deals and rebuilding the secondary in one draft. If Dallas wins the division this year while Philly finishes at .500 then next summer the articles will be all about the great future of the Cowboys and the questionable decisions of the Eagles.

It's all about the flavor of the month.

they said the same thing about Kelly and he is out of NFL. the idiot peter king even had a Kelly wisdom section (which is exactly what not to do to succeed in the NFL).

for the eagles everything fell into place and it starts with QB. they acquired some really good talent and had good coaching. usually when you win, you get poached and you start to suck (except for NE), and it happens to all of them...their OC is already poached....they are going to come down to earth this year as everyone will be gunning for them.

 

[Dre11]

Anybody will tell you a rebuild is usually long and with the win now nature of the NFL , the coach that starts it usually don't stay around long enough to see it through, it's pretty much the new coach that benefits.

 

[ClintDagger]

I think we need to see what Philly does over an extended period before we declare that they have a be all, end all approach. Essentially if you’re not the Patriots and you’ve won a SB lately it appears that you’ve caught lightning in a bottle versus found a perpetual process that will keep you on top for several long runs.

 

[xwalker]

Interesting read... love an aggressive, smart front office. Hate that it's the Eagles.

The Cowboys FO is way too passive IMO. We either are too optimistic about our own players (SEE Tight End and Safety) or poor at self-evaluation. Smart teams use all avenues of talent acquisition. Building through the draft should be the basis of your strategy, but not your only strategy.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...rson-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-carson-wentz


Flame on!

It has worked out 1 season for the Eagles.

Let's see if they have success again before crowning them masters.

The Patriots are the gold standard. They take a big picture multi-year approach. They rarely make go for it now type moves.

 

[jrumann59]

I think a lot of it has to do with luck. They were lucky Roseman didn't leave after Kelly had him "demoted". But remember it is the same management that thought Kelly was the be all end all and then gave him personnel management. Management realized what train wreck he was and fired him before he could do long term damage to the team and its cap.

 

[cowboy_ron]

With Jerry and Garrett being content with mediocrity, that's a tough hurdle to over come.

Now Jerry has another priority..... investing into the casino business....The game of football in Jerry's mind has dropped another rung on the ladder.

 

[lukin2006]

Until the Jones hire competent FO and coaches ... we are stuck in the mud...

 

[ItzKelz]

Coaching plays a big part. Pederson coaches to win- Garrett coaches not to lose.

Pederson knows how to manage a clock. Garrett doesn’t.

With the eagles coaches last year we go 11-5.

That being said, I firmly believe Garrett doesn’t want to go into Win-Now mode because it hurts his job security. Therefore we are in a perpetual rebuilding.

Pederson is not a good coach. This season will be proof of that.