All started with the disrespect of Bill Callahan

[Galian Beast]

Didn’t it really start with the discord between Jimmy and Jerry? A winning combination that let their egos get the best of them. Jerry’s ego has grown exponentially with every billion he’s made.

We look a lot at Jimmy and Jerry and what could have been. We probably win another super bowl or maybe even two if Jimmy stays, hell maybe we could have even won 3, but this team was still doomed under free agency rules.

You could have said that if this team drafted Randy Moss instead of Greg Ellis in 98 and maybe Michael Irvin doesn't get injured, we could have won another super bowl or two or three... There are a lot of ifs swirling around this team. There are just as many ifs with the post parcells era. I think we could have competed for a super bowl in 2007, we could have competed in 2009, and we could have competed in 2014, and 2016.

You look at a lot of mismanagement and poor decisions along the way.

 

[Galian Beast]

I don’t know about installing his offense, but I do know that the line play has been eroding since he left and that the players brought in since he left have not met expectations.

Like I said, I don't think Callahan was great. I do think that had he been able to install his own offense, he would have been much more adept at calling plays for it. I think as a result he wouldn't have had play calling stripped from him. I think as a result he wouldn't have felt disrespected and would have stayed. I think the offensive line play would have continued to improve rather than regress. I think the offense would have flourished.

 

[Zordon]

Bill Callahan who isn't great, was still THREE times the coach Jason Garrett ever was. He should have been allowed to install his offense while he was here. We're still running Jason Garrett's garbage offense whether it be under Garrett or Linehan. This offense has no creativity.

I don't think you need to blow up this offense as far as the players are involved (not all of them anyway), you just need to start from scratch on coaching. Every single offensive coach should be fired including the rb coach. Bring some creativity here. Even when this offense was tooling it was because we had 1st round draft picks or pro bowlers littered at every position. Garrett has shown time and time again, he can't deal with having to use a back up player. That's why Jones was so excited about Prescott, we were winning despite a backup QB.

Norm Hitzges mentioned on the radio yesterday that the team looks like they miss Bill C. He said its been a slow deterioration of the oline since he left.

 

[Zordon]

It would take an offensive coordinator of a far higher caliber than Bill Callahan to consistently thrive in the environment created by this GM and his head coach.

i smh every time i look at your profile pic. insanity...

 

[Bobhaze]

Like I said, I don't think Callahan was great. I do think that had he been able to install his own offense, he would have been much more adept at calling plays for it. I think as a result he wouldn't have had play calling stripped from him. I think as a result he wouldn't have felt disrespected and would have stayed. I think the offensive line play would have continued to improve rather than regress. I think the offense would have flourished.

I may be remembering wrong but- Didn’t Callahan basically leave because he was handcuffed by Garrett?

 

[Blast From The Past]

Bill Callahan who isn't great, was still THREE times the coach Jason Garrett ever was. He should have been allowed to install his offense while he was here. We're still running Jason Garrett's garbage offense whether it be under Garrett or Linehan. This offense has no creativity.

I don't think you need to blow up this offense as far as the players are involved (not all of them anyway), you just need to start from scratch on coaching. Every single offensive coach should be fired including the rb coach. Bring some creativity here. Even when this offense was tooling it was because we had 1st round draft picks or pro bowlers littered at every position. Garrett has shown time and time again, he can't deal with having to use a back up player. That's why Jones was so excited about Prescott, we were winning despite a backup QB.

In high school in Texas I ran in a veer formation, the I formation, and the T- formation as a starting tailback and I can attest that I felt comfortable in the T. It was awesome, outdated as it was we were hard to predict. Not much passing but a Houdiny like hand off to anyone of 3 backs on every play.

 

[Galian Beast]

I may be remembering wrong but- Didn’t Callahan basically leave because he was handcuffed by Garrett?

He came here and was asked to run Garrett's offense because Garrett was shown to be inept. Callahan had no background in the Air Coryell system. He was a respected coach, but they didn't want to start from scratch. The middle ground was to have an experienced coach call the plays. This experiment didn't work wonders obviously and Garrett was temporarily put back in charge of calling plays for his own offense. Still inept mind you, the offense was generally able to overcome his deficiencies.

Jones STILL wanted a legitimate offensive coordinator and so what did we do, did we get Turner to come back? No, because Garrett would feel threatened. They brought in Linehan who ran that offense and could call the plays. It worked until it didn't.

Linehan isn't a bad coordinator by any means. He just isn't equipped to run this personnel, particularly with an exposed Prescott.

 

[charron]

Bill Callahan who isn't great, was still THREE times the coach Jason Garrett ever was. He should have been allowed to install his offense while he was here. We're still running Jason Garrett's garbage offense whether it be under Garrett or Linehan. This offense has no creativity.

I don't think you need to blow up this offense as far as the players are involved (not all of them anyway), you just need to start from scratch on coaching. Every single offensive coach should be fired including the rb coach. Bring some creativity here. Even when this offense was tooling it was because we had 1st round draft picks or pro bowlers littered at every position. Garrett has shown time and time again, he can't deal with having to use a back up player. That's why Jones was so excited about Prescott, we were winning despite a backup QB.

What offense is bill callapoo coaching? Oh that's right he been coaching the great skins OL....how's that worked out for them? Hint...they have been terrible.

 

[Galian Beast]

What offense is bill callapoo coaching? Oh that's right he been coaching the great skins OL....how's that worked out for them? Hint...they have been terrible.

Last I checked the Commanders had the most points scored after 3 games in the division. 23 more points than us with our massive investments on the line.

 

[Vanilla2]

He didn’t want to be here.

And they made him finish out his contract.

Such disrespect.

Especially since a lot of football fans want the players to worry about new contracts when their current one runs out.

 

[Verdict]

Really? Jerry disrespected the franchise by hiring Phillips in the first place. And as great as you think Bill Callahan is, the Commanders have done squat since he went there and he failed in his head coaching opportunities.

Callahan is a piss poor coach at everything EXCEPT coaching the OL. We miss that.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Wade lost this team, partially because he should never have had it. Like you said he is a career DC and a good one, but the other reason he lost this team was because he was undermined by Garrett on day 0.

Wade couldn't lose a team he never had. Jerry never gave it to him. He was always warming the chair for Boy Genius.

Wade did a good job considering the GM himself, and how the GM undermined his authority. We were Patrick Crayton not pulling up on his route away from beating the Giants and I believe hosting the Conference Championship, and that with our star WR only good for a half.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Didn’t it really start with the discord between Jimmy and Jerry? A winning combination that let their egos get the best of them. Jerry’s ego has grown exponentially with every billion he’s made.

4peat and GOAT thrown away.

The day I heard the news Jimmy was fired, I picked us losing the NFC Championship game that year.

 

[Tenkamenin]

In reality, it started with the disrespect of Wade Phillips, but whatever...

I really liked Wade, too bad he never got to hire his own OC.

 

[Johnny23]

Ah yes, the great Wade Phillips too.

To be fair Risen, he is a hof dc. I think he should never have been head coach but dc with Zimmer or Payton as head coach. Ideally at least.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

No, it all started when the moron owner ran a SB winning coach out of town.

 

[Redball Express]

Bill Callahan who isn't great, was still THREE times the coach Jason Garrett ever was. He should have been allowed to install his offense while he was here. We're still running Jason Garrett's garbage offense whether it be under Garrett or Linehan. This offense has no creativity.

I don't think you need to blow up this offense as far as the players are involved (not all of them anyway), you just need to start from scratch on coaching. Every single offensive coach should be fired including the rb coach. Bring some creativity here. Even when this offense was tooling it was because we had 1st round draft picks or pro bowlers littered at every position. Garrett has shown time and time again, he can't deal with having to use a back up player. That's why Jones was so excited about Prescott, we were winning despite a backup QB.

I agree.

Not much was made of the Callahan departure at the time.

I thought it not the best for us considering he had been developing the OL successfully.

I thought the same when Sean Payron left for New Orleans.

That is really another thread.

If we had him.

do not get me started

No Phillips..no Garrett

no losing.

 

[G2]

He finished out his contract in 2014. Somehow, two seasons later the O line was even better. They allowed him to look around.
How the **** is that disrespect? Some fans are insane.

 

[bigdnlaca]

Some are forgetting that when Bill was calling plays, the WC offense was a failure. It was horrible to see Romo drop back on 3rd and nine to throw the ball 4 yards.

Granted, he did great for the o line and I do think the line regressed a little since his departure.

 

[IrishAnto]

In reality, it started with the disrespect of Wade Phillips, but whatever...

Actually is started with the appointment of Barry Switzer we just didn’t see it at the time.