Dak Prescott wasn't the problem against the Houston Texans

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I don't think he can actually see the field or the guys. If he finds the guy on his first read with a little separation he's okay, but it's when he has to find somebody else it turns into a disaster. With pressure, or the notion of pressure in his head, he panics.
 

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who can we throw those 50/50 balls to now? lol...Who can Dak throw those 5 yarders to? Certainly not witten..
 

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He lacks pin-point accuracy, anticipation, & the ability to deliver a vertical passing threat down the field.

He is what is.
A back-up QB.
Move on.
 

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I'm not a proponent of benching a guy for a bigger unknown in Rush..or releasing a guy in the offseason that we have invested time and energy in developing.Unless we have a better option it makes no sense. He gives us the best chance to win.
 

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Not trying to beat a dead horse,but who is his number 1 wr?Who is his number 2? 3? See my point? Who can he rely on and trust? On the flip side, Watson is insulated with the ALL PRO Hopkins, Will Fuller,Coutee,and a solid TE. Dak has hot garbage at wr. I'm not saying Dak is great,but he isn't nearly that bad. You give Dak a guy he can trust, he will revert back to good Dak again. Right now,if your him, who do you have blind faith in? Garrett? lol...Swaim? that oline? THE RECEIVERS? LMAO....Its pretty remarkable Dak has not been hurt yet.

I actually don't disagree with your assessment of the WRs. But saying Dak would be an upper echelon QB if we gave him a Hopkins is an argument I can't get behind. Because it's not a lack of a #1 WR that has him making inaccurate throws, etc.

I think at this point, people like yourself are just stuck in hopeful mode because the reality, that we don't have a franchise QB, is tough to swallow. And I fear the Cowboys front office will think like you and we will waste the next 2-3 years figuring that reality out. As you said, he might not be "as bad" as he looked but he won't look great, consistently, either. He's a league average QB and that's just not good enough.

It pains me because I wanted Dak to be the guy but it's becoming more and more obvious he's just not that guy IMO. It sucks.
 

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He lacks pin-point accuracy, anticipation, & the ability to deliver a vertical passing threat down the field.

He is what is.
A back-up QB.
Move on.
funny..he had all those things in 2016. Is it any coincidence then that he doesn't look as good because the quality around him is gone? You have to ask.He was known to be the most accurate passer in the NFL in 2016. Logic tells me, what has changed around him? Since that Atlanta game in 2017, he has lost his mojo. He lost 2 security blankets that he trusted in Dez and Witten...and we honestly didn't replace them. The oline took a heavy hit at center. We cannot run as effectively thus Dak feels pressure to do more, and when you consider the cast around him,its a recipe for disaster.
 

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dak's a guy you can count on to come in and not lose games by taking chances when the starter goes down.
 

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So did Tavon drop that pass and tip it so it could be easily intercepted,or did Dak? Did Thompson drop/tip that pass so it could be intercepted? Did Dak punt the ball in OT and give the game essentially to the Texans or did Garrett? Those are 3 huge turning points in the game.

Those were not good passes. The tips landing in the hands of Texans' DBs is just bad luck, for sure. But those were not very accurate passes. The one to Austin, all he had to do was put it in his bread basket and Austin is running for days. But instead he threw a high ball to a smallish WR who had to stretch to make the catch. That's not a good throw.

The Thompson one was also not a great pass. He threw it low and to the back hip of Thompson which allowed the DB to stick his arm in there and ricochet the ball up in the air.

Would a better WR make those plays? Maybe? But they were still not very good passes. And unfortunately, those aren't anomalies. Dak has been wildly inaccurate this year.
 

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To throw better your qb must be better, he can do some little things, but when he has to raise his game a little, he fails.
Dak is struggling with basic stuff. Accuracy is an issue, pocket awareness is an issue,

Yeah it's bad. He really limits us.

Nobody is more disappointed then me because I want him to be the guy but our run game has to be so incredibly strong for Dak to be effective.
 

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I'm not a proponent of benching a guy for a bigger unknown in Rush..or releasing a guy in the offseason that we have invested time and energy in developing.Unless we have a better option it makes no sense. He gives us the best chance to win.

I wouldn't bench him either. If people are making that argument, they are fools. Rush is worse than Prescott.

But I know I'd be all in on drafting a QB high this coming offseason. To me, it's an absolute must and I hope this franchise doesn't fall into the trap where they overreact and waste top picks by forcing picks at WR and TE thinking Prescott will be great if he has those guys.
 

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He wasn't the solution either. Our gutless head coach is a bigger issue.
 

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To throw better your qb must be better, he can do some little things, but when he has to raise his game a little, he fails.
Dak is struggling with basic stuff. Accuracy is an issue, pocket awareness is an issue,

Yep. Short, succinct and an accurate post.
 

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I actually don't disagree with your assessment of the WRs. But saying Dak would be an upper echelon QB if we gave him a Hopkins is an argument I can't get behind. Because it's not a lack of a #1 WR that has him making inaccurate throws, etc.

I think at this point, people like yourself are just stuck in hopeful mode because the reality, that we don't have a franchise QB, is tough to swallow. And I fear the Cowboys front office will think like you and we will waste the next 2-3 years figuring that reality out. As you said, he might not be "as bad" as he looked but he won't look great, consistently, either. He's a league average QB and that's just not good enough.

It pains me because I wanted Dak to be the guy but it's becoming more and more obvious he's just not that guy IMO. It sucks.
nah...Im a realist. Reality is Dak wont be going anywhere. Hopeful..yes..but not delusional. We are what we are. A team being rebuilt offensively. I knew this in the offseason.Dak will never be confused with Rodgers or Mahomes etc...but we all seen what he can do when this team is firing on all cylinders. He has a very high passer rating and high accuracy ratio. The guy needs to be fairly evaluated when he has a full complement of receivers with decent NFL talent. Right now,its way unfair to want to disparage the man for his performance when he is playing with a broken oline and guys at wr that he has little chemistry with. They are talent challenged lol. Give Dak 1 stud wr and you will see bigger stats from him.Im not giving up on the kid...hes too good.
 

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He wasn't the solution either. Our gutless head coach is a bigger issue.

The plan is simple.......... so simple that I know the Jones' will screw it up.

- Fire the staff this offseason
- Let the new coach pick his QB and go from there

Very simple. And yet they will make it ohhhh, soooooo complicated.
 

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So did Tavon drop that pass and tip it so it could be easily intercepted,or did Dak? Did Thompson drop/tip that pass so it could be intercepted? Did Dak punt the ball in OT and give the game essentially to the Texans or did Garrett? Those are 3 huge turning points in the game.
I stressed in my post that he is A problem and not THE ONLY problem so your response to my comment makes no sense
 

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nah...Im a realist. Reality is Dak wont be going anywhere. Hopeful..yes..but not delusional. We are what we are. A team being rebuilt offensively. I knew this in the offseason.Dak will never be confused with Rodgers or Mahomes etc...but we all seen what he can do when this team is firing on all cylinders. He has a very high passer rating and high accuracy ratio. The guy needs to be fairly evaluated when he has a full complement of receivers with decent NFL talent. Right now,its way unfair to want to disparage the man for his performance when he is playing with a broken oline and guys at wr that he has little chemistry with. They are talent challenged lol. Give Dak 1 stud wr and you will see bigger stats from him.Im not giving up on the kid...hes too good.

2016 was the perfect storm. Few injuries, etc.

It's rare that a NFL team has seasons like that. And that's the problem............... if your QB can only succeed when everything is perfect around him, you have an issue at QB. That's just reality. His OL has not been nearly as bad as you claim. And as has been pointed out and shown, he's missing WRs that are open. He's just not playing well and we are reaching the point there what he did in 2016 is meaningless and could simply be a lightning in a bottle type season.

Prescott wouldn't be the first QB to have one really great season and the rest are just blah.
 

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Those were not good passes. The tips landing in the hands of Texans' DBs is just bad luck, for sure. But those were not very accurate passes. The one to Austin, all he had to do was put it in his bread basket and Austin is running for days. But instead he threw a high ball to a smallish WR who had to stretch to make the catch. That's not a good throw.

The Thompson one was also not a great pass. He threw it low and to the back hip of Thompson which allowed the DB to stick his arm in there and ricochet the ball up in the air.

Would a better WR make those plays? Maybe? But they were still not very good passes. And unfortunately, those aren't anomalies. Dak has been wildly inaccurate this year.
NFL wr must catch those balls,period. Do you think Hopkins would have? THATS MY POINT. The wideouts were always going to be the issue this year.Dunno why this is surprising anyone that Dak doesn't look good. He's only as good as the HC,OLINE and cast at wr. We lack the firepower on offense.
 

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Saying he's not part of the problem isn't like saying Lee wasn't part of the problem when it came to a bad defense the last several years.

More like saying Hitchens wasn't part of the problem when the defense was bad.
 
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