The Dak Thread **merged**

Northern_Cowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,227
Reaction score
3,816
Mike White isn't ready.

However, he can't be worse that Dak.

That would at least be interesting.

Dak is painful to watch.

You are right about White but if they think he has something to offer then starting him and letting him get some experience can only help him in the long run, but we are a few games away from that yet, especially if the NFC east keeps playing this bad, 7-9 could win the division
 

jrumann59

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,973
Reaction score
8,747
Yeah you sound blind
Yeah because the wobblers and floaters he throws on the run work. He rolls right and throws and out and it is 3 yards out of bounds, rolls left throws to the sideline 3 yards out of bounds. Throw a 4 yard pass to a rb while in the pocket always a little tense since he has almost thrown 3 pick 6s trying to check down to zeke. Yeah he is a model of NFL passing skill.
 

CF74

Vet Min Plus
Messages
26,167
Reaction score
14,623
Yeah because the wobblers and floaters he throws on the run work. He rolls right and throws and out and it is 3 yards out of bounds, rolls left throws to the sideline 3 yards out of bounds. Throw a 4 yard pass to a rb while in the pocket always a little tense since he has almost thrown 3 pick 6s trying to check down to zeke. Yeah he is a model of NFL passing skill.


His passes are wild, I’ll give u that...:laugh:
 

Galian Beast

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,735
Reaction score
7,457
Most teams would have benched Dak by now, but I'm that Garrett believes and maybe rightly that if he benches the QB he kept over Romo, he'll immediately be on the hot seat.
 

PA Cowboy Fan

Well-Known Member
Messages
24,806
Reaction score
50,212
Most teams would have benched Dak by now, but I'm that Garrett believes and maybe rightly that if he benches the QB he kept over Romo, he'll immediately be on the hot seat.
Why should Garrett care? He's never been on the hot seat. The only person he has to pleases is Jerry Jones and he is like a son.
 

Galian Beast

Well-Known Member
Messages
14,735
Reaction score
7,457
Why should Garrett care? He's never been on the hot seat. The only person he has to pleases is Jerry Jones and he is like a son.

I'm positive he influenced Jerry to release Romo. Jerry loved Romo. There has to be a cost there to that decision with him. He sold Jerry a bad stock and he is getting humiliated because of it.
 

Jimbo69

Well-Known Member
Messages
605
Reaction score
711
I too was willing to give Dak this season to see if he could be the QB of this team. Watching the texas game in the first quarter there was a simple pass he had to make to swain for a big gain, maybe even six, where he was so inaccurate swain had to make a circus catch to reel it in and the chance was gone. Collingsworth mentioned it at the time. It dawned on me that Dak didn't have 'it'. I was hoping he could but he just isn't the guy.
If you can't make these simple throws you cannot be the type of QB that will take this team to the next level.
Sack the HC but give the guy a new QB to go forward with.
 

PA Cowboy Fan

Well-Known Member
Messages
24,806
Reaction score
50,212
I'm positive he influenced Jerry to release Romo. Jerry loved Romo. There has to be a cost there to that decision with him. He sold Jerry a bad stock and he is getting humiliated because of it.
Romo couldn't play anymore. I'm sure Jerry and Stephen had more to do with that than Garrett. They always have.
 

HungryLion

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,798
Reaction score
60,879
I don’t think benching Dak is going to prove anything one way or another.

Rush sucks.

White is raw and not ready.

Play out the rest of the season, draft a QB high and then let the QB’s compete in the off season for the starting spot.
 

Northern_Cowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,227
Reaction score
3,816
I don’t think benching Dak is going to prove anything one way or another.

Rush sucks.

White is raw and not ready.

Play out the rest of the season, draft a QB high and then let the QB’s compete in the off season for the starting spot.

Wasn't Dak rushed and Raw when he got thrust into the starting role unexpectedly in 2016? If Dak keeps underperforming then give Rush/White a shot at least they will see their chance coming and be able to better prepare for it
 

nate dizzle

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,233
Reaction score
13,967
CowboysZone DIEHARD Fan
Lmao

You mean step trying to make him an NFL QB and have them run college plays.

Brilliant
It's all a conspiracy. The line stopped blocking, the WR's stopped catching, the coaches stopped coaching, all in an effort to make Dak look bad. They just coached, blocked and caught for him his rookie year so they could sell jerseys or something.:rolleyes:
 

buybuydandavis

Well-Known Member
Messages
23,898
Reaction score
20,955
I have been a proponent of a wait-and-see approach with Prescott because he's only in his third year as a starter. I felt we'd have a better pulse on who he is as a starting quarterback by the end of this season.
Dak had one of the best rookies seasons of all time. He was plenty accurate, very accurate on the move, and ran for 6 TDs.

He was generally accurate til the Atlanta game. And has rarely been since. People say Dak got figured out, but I don't think teams figure out your accuracy into crap. They figure out your offense, which is on the OC.

We should have dumped Linehan, and gotten a new OC and a real QB coach this offseason. Evaluating Dak under a poor OC coaching regime reveals little about Dak, but that he can be screwed by poor coaching.

We made the wrong call on keeping Linehan, and until we rectify that, we're not moving ahead to either improve or accurately evaluate Dak. First things first. Get a decent play caller in here.
 

Whyjerry

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,201
Reaction score
25,052
I have been a proponent of a wait-and-see approach with Prescott because he's only in his third year as a starter. I felt we'd have a better pulse on who he is as a starting quarterback by the end of this season.

I also believed that like with most quarterbacks he gets blamed when there's poor protection, receivers run bad routes or drop balls, the play-calls are bad, etc. Then, there are his 2016 performance and games like Detroit where he makes some picture-perfect passes.

The Texans' game convinced me, though, that Dak is only that type of quarterback who gives you those glimpses that make you believe he can be better than he is. We can look at dropped passes, protection breakdowns, poor play-calling and say that Dak would look like that 2016 QB if those things were fixed, but truthfully in the Houston game, he had too many passes where the receiver was open and the protection was good enough and he couldn't connect. There's just too much hit and miss in his game, and I think if we focus on the hit and ignore the miss, we're going to end up sticking with a starter who isn't good enough unless everything around him is pretty much perfect.

I'm ready at this point to see what Mike White can show before it's necessary for us to draft a quarterback in the first round next year. Yes, I skipped Cooper Rush, but that's because I think Rush's ceiling is being a good backup, but he doesn't have the zip to be a starter.

I know some will believe I'm overreacting to a bad performance, but there's been too much InDakuracy last year and this year. It's no longer about who Dak might can become, it's about who he is.

He has regressed over the past 2 plus seasons with the rest of the offense. Look at how bad that OL is. Look at how much Dez slipped. The WR unit as a whole is getting worse. Hurns was a good player in Jacksonville, now he is invisible. Zeke was bst as a rookie.

The DCs in the league know exactly what Dallas is doing on offense. Exactly. Tough to be a QB under this scenario.
 

HungryLion

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,798
Reaction score
60,879
Wasn't Dak rushed and Raw when he got thrust into the starting role unexpectedly in 2016? If Dak keeps underperforming then give Rush/White a shot at least they will see their chance coming and be able to better prepare for it

Sure he was.

But the supporting cast this year is NOWHERE CLOSE to what Dak had in 2016.

Also, thrusting Dak into the starting role, hasn’t really worked out for him long term.

White is better off learning and growing from the sidelines. As far as long term potential is concerned.
 

erod

Well-Known Member
Messages
37,908
Reaction score
58,571
Dak had one of the best rookies seasons of all time. He was plenty accurate, very accurate on the move, and ran for 6 TDs.

He was generally accurate til the Atlanta game. And has rarely been since. People say Dak got figured out, but I don't think teams figure out your accuracy into crap. They figure out your offense, which is on the OC.

We should have dumped Linehan, and gotten a new OC and a real QB coach this offseason. Evaluating Dak under a poor OC coaching regime reveals little about Dak, but that he can be screwed by poor coaching.

We made the wrong call on keeping Linehan, and until we rectify that, we're not moving ahead to either improve or accurately evaluate Dak. First things first. Get a decent play caller in here.
His rookie year was ugly the last 6 games. The downfall started long before the Atlanta game.

He is dreadful.
 

nate dizzle

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,233
Reaction score
13,967
CowboysZone DIEHARD Fan
Dak had one of the best rookies seasons of all time. He was plenty accurate, very accurate on the move, and ran for 6 TDs.

He was generally accurate til the Atlanta game. And has rarely been since. People say Dak got figured out, but I don't think teams figure out your accuracy into crap. They figure out your offense, which is on the OC.

We should have dumped Linehan, and gotten a new OC and a real QB coach this offseason. Evaluating Dak under a poor OC coaching regime reveals little about Dak, but that he can be screwed by poor coaching.

We made the wrong call on keeping Linehan, and until we rectify that, we're not moving ahead to either improve or accurately evaluate Dak. First things first. Get a decent play caller in here.
Linehan was the coach during that amazing rookie year. I guess he just decided to change his entire offensive strategy after all that success. Literally everything is on the table for an excuse other than Dak just being a one-hit wonder.
 
Top